Charging a subscription for unlimited access to all shows ok why not, but charging to be able to have access to shows already purchased is dishonest and I doubt that this decision will be well received.
I know making money is the game but this is borderline cheating.

What you describe @orclover, is what I personally blame Totem for.

Instead of playing fair and explaining that the context requires raising prices (this should have been done gradually over time), which would have been shared by all customers, they have created ways, to bring people into projects (gambling and cryptocurrency and NFC among others), which are not desired by all. This leads to the exclusion here of cards, which some members would have agreed to pay a little more, if it helps the company, its employees, the operating costs and to pay the girls well of course.

I think we are dealing with gamers at Totem, who ignore the collectors.

What I personally ***** is not knowing in advance the price I will pay for a product. If everything is well explained, like anyone else I'm able to use my intelligence, and I'm going to agree to pay more.

IStripper although being a means of entertainment, should not be a gamers tool.

The problem also is that we are always presented with a fait accompli. Like here with the changes in the mobile iStripper.

It must also be said that if there has been an improvement in the technology for the quality of the cards (modernity obliges), the choice of the girls has decreased a lot. The returns of the same girl have now become the "norm".


Ce que vous décrivez @orclover, est ce que personnellement je reproche à Totem.

Au lieu de jouer franc jeu et expliquer que le contexte demande à élever les prix (cela aurait dû se faire progressivement avec le temps), qui aurait été partagé par l'ensemble des clients, ceux-ci ont créer des moyens, pour ammener les gens dans des projets (jeux de hasard et cryptomonnaie et NFC entre autres), qui ne sont pas désirés par tous. Cela ammène à exclure ici des cartes, dont certains membres auraient été en accord pour payer un peu plus cher, si cela aide la compagnie, ses employés, les frais de fonctionnement et à bien payer les filles évidemment.

Moi je pense que nous avons affaire chez Totem à des gamers, qui ignore les collectionneurs.

Ce que je déteste personnellement est de ne pas savoir à l'avance le prix que je vais payer pour un produit. Si tout est bien expliqué, comme n'importe qui je suis capable de me servir de mon intelligence, et je vais être en accord pour payer plus.

IStripper bien qu'étant un moyen de distraction, ne devrait pas être un instrument de gamers.

Le problème aussi est que nous sommes toujours mis devant un fait accompli. Comme ici pour les changements dans le iStripper mobile.

Il faut dire aussi que s'il y a eu une amélioration au niveau technologique pour la qualité des cartes (modernité oblige), le choix des filles a de beaucoup diminué. Les retours d'une même fille sont maintenant devenu la "norme".

Totem hasn't ignored collectors, you get 45% off, credits back from playing special event games, and the obsession of collection allows you to own cards other people can't get...people who draw the spending line at $1.30 per card like me. Collecting is a game in itself, and totem offers a separate service for collectors via dolz, special event, and now mobile. Most of use just want to see beautiful woman but collectors want to fill a collection, check mark a list, or have cards other don't...that is expensive and a completely different service.

We're all ears :)

Where are now the shows I could interact with?, I can´t do anything with my girls.

We're all ears :)

Ya no tengo acceso al material que antes si tenía aceso; por qué y como se puede resolver eso?

Neither me, where are my shows?, where are my girls?, I can´t interact with them!

It was free (the streaming service that is, not the cards) but now it isn't. It became a subscription based "add on" to the yesterday.

@TheEmu, that's what I meant, but since I had bought all the cards, I had access to all the cards on the mobile version at the time, without having to pay again, as it will be done now to get access.

I wasn't interested in the mobile version anyway.

@TheEmu, c'est ce que je voulais dire, mais comme j'avais acheté toutes les cartes, j'avais accès à l'époque à toutes les cartes présentes sur la version mobile, sans devoir repayer, comme cela va se faire maintenant pour y avoir accès.

De toute façon la version mobile ne m'intéressait pas.

Also, I haven't seen it mentioned here.
https://Mobile.istripper.com
is Free no Account Needed.


All Mobile Previews are Free. No Subscription Needed.

I have logged out of my Account So I am NOT logged in.
I have full access to every card and can watch the Preview shows.

If I LOG IN with an account that does NOT have a Subscription
I can see every Free PhotoSet, but Need a Sub to see the videos.

@JonC001 I only took the free for 30 days option. Might as well test this thing out, but after that I can see plenty of dear Gloria on the desktop, on other sites and of course OnlyFans. 😍

Like @Wyldanimal and @pickle1 I hardly used the mobile version.
When I'm out and about town it's for practical and social reasons.
If I was running the mobile then, I might have to explain thus ....
"Ah yes officer this is for a project I'm working on ...." 😆

@wrightsayswow said this:

Crazy thing is I'm only really interested in one model on the mobile, otherwise I use the App.

You paid for the mobile subscription just to view Gloria? You are not crazy. You are obsessed.
(nothing wrong with that, as long as the obsession does not ***** another)

It seems like the whole world is going to the subscription model. I'm not happy about this trend, but it's happening everywhere. I don't use iStripper on mobile very often, but it's handy if you're on the road or are not near the computer where you have the application installed. So, it's not a big deal for me, but I feel bad for the mobile-only customers. I think people should be able to continue to view the shows they already paid for (and on mobile, not just desktop).

Like you @Wyldanimal, I will confess that apart from helping test both the original and the latest manifestation of the mobile app, I am NOT a user.

I watch the girls on my computer when I am sat on the settee at home.

When I am away from home, I do not feel the need to watch porn. My phone stays in my pocket and I enjoy taking in what is happening around me.

So - personally - I am not going to miss the mobile experience. I had not paid for it (I pay for the girls who dance on my PC) so I have not lost out.

The new subscription model is designed to attract new customers - not me 😊

Je n'en porte pas. Si vous aviez lu le roman de Bram Stocker, vous sauriez que les vampires ne sortent que la nuit. 😊Je vous CROIX ! 😎

"Croix de boix, croix de fer, lorsqu'on ment on va en enfer", selon ce que j'ai déjà entendu dans un film d'horreur.

J'espère que vous ne mentez pas ? 😊

Bon encore un hors sujet à cause de @Sexy3DBoy. La perdition est à nos portes. Je sais on va encore me traîter de négatif. 😈

Je n'en porte pas. Si vous aviez lu le roman de Bram Stocker, vous sauriez que les vampires ne sortent que la nuit. 😊

Je vous CROIX ! 😎

It would be interesting to know,
How Often each member here offering constructive criticism to the New Mobile Platform
1) Uses the desktop Version ?
and
2) Uses the Mobile Version ?

I use the Desktop product 100% to enjoy my cards.

I myself, only use the mobile version for Testing.
I have not used it for enjoyment of the cards
A) because it is Bandwidth intensive, so I only use it when wifi is available
B) I've not found the need to view my cards when away from home.

So for me Personally,
I think the Subscription Mode is an Ideal fit for the Mobile Platform.

Nothing to Install,
Nothing to Download,
Access to The Entire Mobile collection Streamed on demand.

Et pour ce qui est de la version mobile, visiblement vous n'avez pas lu ce que j'ai écrit dans mon précédent post. Retirez vos lunettes de soleil !! 😆😎

Je n'en porte pas. Si vous aviez lu le roman de Bram Stocker, vous sauriez que les vampires ne sortent que la nuit. 😊

Totem va être content de savoir qu'avec votre générosité, il vous reste au dessus de 1600 cartes à acheter en plus des shows VR et peut-être même les NFT. Et évidemment payer pour la version mobile, si ce n'est déjà fait. 😊

Je ne pense pas car d'une part je ne suis pas un collectionneur dans l'âme et d'autre part les cartes dont vous faites allusions sont d'un ancien format.

Et pour ce qui est de la version mobile, visiblement vous n'avez pas lu ce que j'ai écrit dans mon précédent post. Retirez vos lunettes de soleil !! 😆😎

Once you've accepted the offer, it should end 30 days later 😕I decideded to try it. That is the case. I now have free access until 15th December.I was a little worried the system might take some credits but it did not.No idea if we get more 30 day access offers after that.I guess we're all learning here by trial and error.Crazy thing is I'm only really interested in one model on the mobile, otherwise I use the App.

@wrightsayswow

Thanks for this information.
Currently I am trying to reduce my expenditure not increase it.

I still don't understand the product but I think/guess they went with Dolz crypto in order to create a network with other porn producers and bypass the 3rd party processors. And plant themselves in the middle or future trading. Again I'm just guessing.

I have doubts it will ever really launch but again I don't know. I don't see how this works out long term but I suspect it wont go away until until there is no 3rd party intrest and no trading and that might take a while.

Ouvrez vos wallets les gars et soyez généreux !!!😎

Totem va être content de savoir qu'avec votre générosité, il vous reste au dessus de 1600 cartes à acheter en plus des shows VR et peut-être même les NFT. Et évidemment payer pour la version mobile, si ce n'est déjà fait. 😊

Open your wallets guys and be generous!!!😎

Totem will be happy to know that with your generosity, you have over 1600 cards left to buy in addition to the VR shows and maybe even the NFT. And obviously pay for the mobile version, if you haven't already. 😊

@Z22 GetNormal3Oct.fsh makes a nice variation from using Z22Glasstastic for a mod...Tks lots.
I noticed model left-right (x-axis) is reversed in the z22_SexualPredetor.scn version you posted.
I'd like to include this in the next batch of conversions (as per a shader from another shader)
if thats cool with you. 😎👍

Sure no worries.

It's based on the Glass series rather than the glastastic ones.

I mean if you're willing to expand your business and adopt a different monetization strategy, that's totally fine.

But as a card owner who owns thousands of the shows I'd expect a more reasonable compensation during the trasition. And a 30-day trial is almost laughable.

Whales collectors may just get life time access with the money they have spent on your app, including myself. Now my potential 30 to 40 years access is only converted into a 30-day trail. I feel more insulted then being spit in the face.

It kinda shocked me how little respect and appreciation you showed to the user base on this change. There's no way a 30-days trial will be a fair trade off in any case if you own hundreds of cards.

I can see what you're up to. If buyingout individual cards is totally ruled out on the mobile version, applying the same treatment to the desktop version will only be a matter of time.

smh.

Perso je n'utilise pas la version mobile afin de préserver la batterie et aussi pour ne pas passer tout mon temps devant des animations de danseuses.

La vie c'est un peu plus que ça.😆

Ceci dit: les services payants sont là pour financer le développement de l'application mobile qui n'est pas une version responsive de celle du bureau. C'est une application à part entière avec ses propres contraintes.

Regardez autour de vous: il y a de moins en moins de services gratuits même les réseaux sociaux risquent d'y passer. Youtube sans abonnement c'est des pubs à n'en plus finir. Linkedin sans premium c'est champ d'actions réduit.

Ouvrez vos wallets les gars et soyez généreux !!!😎

@Z22 GetNormal3Oct.fsh makes a nice variation from using Z22Glasstastic for a mod...Tks lots.
I noticed model left-right (x-axis) is reversed in the z22_SexualPredetor.scn version you posted.
I'd like to include this in the next batch of conversions (as per a shader from another shader)
if thats cool with you. 😎👍

Perspective from a younger guy..

My one Nephew is 20 years old.
He does not own a PC or MAC.
has an iPhone and an iPad and is locked to them 24/7
in fact he has 3 iPhones.
Why? He doesn't say exactly, but, he has more than one Girl that he's jizzing.
So I suspect each phone is for different girls...
or maybe even multiple girls on one phone..
or maybe something more nefarious.

Anyway,
The subscription mode is the Only way he would join.
He can't make any sense of paying per show. That's just effed up he says..
Why pay per show, pay once and get it all...
The Price is too steep though... cut it in half..

So this new generation has an entirely different perspective on being connected..
They only want mobile apps

Donc pour résumer, si on veut regarder sur la version mobile les shows achetés sur la version bureau, il faut payer un abonnement.
Si ça continue dans cette voie bientôt activer le logiciel du bureau nous coutera des crédits. X)

This is unfortunate news

I currently have 1323 cards downloaded in 4K
Some of them are QA cards that have not yet been released, I haven't separated them out.

But Every card marked as CC+ is Downloaded in 4K,
There are no CC+ cards in my Collection that are NOT 4K.

I'll see if I can separate out the QA cards.
We don't have a filter for that, so I have to Manually do it.

Once you've accepted the offer, it should end 30 days later 😕

I decideded to try it. That is the case. I now have free access until 15th December.
I was a little worried the system might take some credits but it did not.
No idea if we get more 30 day access offers after that.
I guess we're all learning here by trial and error.
Crazy thing is I'm only really interested in one model on the mobile, otherwise I use the App.

or can we pick a day here and a day there to total 30 days?

Cela serait bien en effet, mais je ne pense pas que cela fonctionne comme cela. Une fois que vous avez accepté l'offre, celle-ci devrait s'arrêter 30 jours plus tard 😕
That would be nice indeed, but I don't think it works that way. Once you've accepted the offer, it should end 30 days later 😕

Question: 30 days free for "VIP" members....does that mean 30 consecutive days, or can we pick a day here and a day there to total 30 days?

Might be useful to preview shows.

I looked at the shows, only the mobile shows are available. So it's anyway not worth the money for me.

will al the shows be available on mobile or only some ..like 9 for Belka when she has 23?

Et bien pour l'instant nous recevons 7 cartes par semaine et 3 sont converties en version mobile 😉
Well for now we receive 7 cards per week and 3 are converted to mobile version 😉

will al the shows be available on mobile or only some ..like 9 for Belka when she has 23?

...so hopefully Totem will find a way to givie buying members free credits on a regular basis.

Well, the initial announcement yesterday included the following

In addition, we will be offering free subscription days:
...depending on the number of mobile cards you own
...for those with VIP status on desktop

So it looks like there will be an element of that - but I would also interpret "free subscription days" as comprising teasers to induce those trying them to take out a subscription.

For me the whole point of IS is that it's passive; it runs on my computer while I do other things.

I just looked at some of the details and the mobile price seems high in the context of an add-on so hopefully Totem will find a way to givie buying members free credits on a regular basis. Maybe free credit with with card purchases or something.

For the mobile only customer it's a new product and the price seems reasonable but I'm not a customer so not sure what fair is.

If some of the exclusive cards are available I might check it out myself one day but still from my desktop browser if possible.

Sorry, never used the quote feature before. This is what I was trying to quote above.

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There's something here. Maybe another month of free mobile access when purchasing the largest credit pack? Just one more incentive to lock customers in a credit commitment. (I mean that in a good way). Little loss if from what I hear is most of the big spenders don't use mobile anyways. I also like the idea that limited time to full access of all cards is a good way to decide which cards to buy permanent on the PC version. It's like an extended preview, if additional free mobiel access is given with future credit packs. If a month free is too rich for Totem (I don't pretend to understand their cost model), maybe a free week. If nothing else, it's a great promo...

@ComteDracula

To my knowledge this service was already free.

It was free (the streaming service that is, not the cards) but now it isn't. It became a subscription based "add on" to the yesterday.

Us regular users are what makes this work, so no, iStripper will not be committing ***** today. 😎 (Just my opinion. 😕 )

I feel like we are well on the way to multiple categories of users. Mobile only crowd, cryptobros (they won't get into the app itself), and us regular users at the very bottom.

😕... 👍 😎

Beaucoup de bonnes cartes récentes en version mobile (y compris vidéos et photos bonus) et 3 de plus par semaine pour un abonnement. Certainement intéressant pour de nouveaux utilisateurs. Rejoindront-ils l'application? Participeront-ils aux ventes aux enchères? Participeront-ils aux TGIF pour obtenir les SEC? Pas sûr 😐
Pour les utilisateurs de l'application, il est certain que nous pouvons ressentir cette nouvelle méthode commerciale comme une suppression d'un avantage. Je ne pense pas que beaucoup cumuleront les 2 possibilités de regarder leurs spectacles. Nous allons probablement vers 2 catégories d'utilisateurs 😊

Lots of good recent cards in mobile version (including bonus videos and photos) and 3 more per week for a subscription. Certainly interesting for new users. Will they join the app? Will they participate in the auctions? Will they participate in the TGIF to obtain the SEC? Not sure 😐
For the users of the application, it is certain that we can feel this new business method as a removal of an advantage. I don't think many will combine the 2 opportunities to watch their shows. We are probably going towards 2 categories of users 😊

For me the whole point of IS is that it's passive; it runs on my computer while I do other things.

I just looked at some of the details and the mobile price seems high in the context of an add-on so hopefully Totem will find a way to givie buying members free credits on a regular basis. Maybe free credit with with card purchases or something.

For the mobile only customer it's a new product and the price seems reasonable but I'm not a customer so not sure what fair is.

If some of the exclusive cards are available I might check it out myself one day but still from my desktop browser if possible.

That's fair, but it is how I signed up. It wasn't extra. Anyways, I am not ***** as I prefer PC version anyway. 😎

(I don't stream, like ever. I barely have "socials" 😆 )

When was it free?

It was free when it was first released; I haven't looked at it since but this is the 1st I've heard of not being free. I was just a mobile website from what I can remember. You can still get there by going to m.istripper.com but now it's the new paid site.

I thought it was well done but never even thought of using IS on my phone and don't want an app on my phone for sure but seems fair to charge something. I'm sure it cost Totem time and money for the extra content. I think it was offering me a free trail; it might be worth a look if you want to see IS on your device.

@ComteDracula

With respect to the specific topic of iStripper's mobile service - have you considered that Totem may well be making a loss by providing this as a free service, a loss that was not fully compensated for by an increase in card sales.

When was it free? 😕

I signed up on mobile when I joined by the way.

To my knowledge this service was already free.

True, I didn't use it often, but the few times (and it's been a long time) that I did use it, I could see my purchased cards there.

It's just that they added elements to make it pay. Elements that I don't think were necessary.

But maybe I'm a bad judge, since I never knew that people had asked for improvements to this service. Also as @Philours said, I'm not sure people would have wanted these services, if they knew there would be a cost to it.


À ma connaissance ce service était déjà gratuit.

ll est vrai que je n l'ai pas utilisé souvent, mais les rares fois (et cela fait longtemps) où j'en ai fait usage, je pouvais y voir mes cartes achetés.

C'est juste qu'ils ont ajoutés des éléments pour le rendre payant. Éléments selon moi qui n'étaient peut-être pas nécessaires.

Mais je suis peut-être mauvais juge, puisque je n'avais jamais eu connaisance que des gens avaient demandés des améliorations à ce service. De plus comme le disais @Philours, je ne suis pas certains que les gens auraient souhaitez ces services, s'ils avaient su qu'il y aurait un coût à cela.

@ComteDracula

With respect to the specific topic of iStripper's mobile service - have you considered that Totem may well be making a loss by providing this as a free service, a loss that was not fully compensated for by an increase in card sales.

I would say that it is rather an exchange of points of view.

It is because of the different worldviews in which they have been stated that progress has been possible.

Je dirais que c'est plutôt un échange de points de vue.

C'est grâce à des visions différentes du monde dans lesquelles elles ont été énoncés, que des progrès ont été possibles.

As we have often said, the reason Totem behaves this way is because they are alone in their kind and have no competition.

Which is just my point - why do you think Totem should behave differently ? It doesn't matter if their actions to increase income annoy some of their customers (or even all of their customers) as long as they do not annoy them enough to reduce their profits. As you say, if they had direct competition then the balance would be different - but they don't and it isn't. Arguing about what would be the right actions in a different world is not going to help much in this one.

As always I fail to see why you think that Totem should behave differently to almost every other business. Why are you apparently surprised that they are working for their own advantage rather than yours.

For a company to work for its own benefit is also to work for the customers who pay for and encourage their products. No customer, no money, no business.

There is no incompatibility here. I would even say that it is complementary.

As we have often said, the reason Totem behaves this way is because they are alone in their kind and have no competition.

Pour une entreprise, travailler pour son propre avantage, c'est aussi travailler pour les clients qui paient et encourage leurs produits. Pas de client, pas d'argent, pas d'entrepirise.

Il n'y a pas incompatibilité. ici. Je dirais même que c'est complémentaire.

Nous l'avons souvent dit, si Totem se comporte ainsi, c'est parce qu'il sont seul dans leur genre et n'ont pas de compétition.