**Comment to Dorsai6**
I Life By The Forums These Day to Stay Tuned, besides someone has to do it, no? do I write for you?

The clear difference between you and me is. I'm a totally unsatisfied customer, you are totally opposite. I have simply nothing else to do than follow forums and making comments because there is "NO NEW" cards for me anymore to purchese. And I dont wanna miss a thing anymore. 😟

And simple enough this thread sinks away if 'I" dont use it. 😒 .. And maybe secretly you are attracted to visit my post? 😀 I meen you are free customer to read them 😊

I think aswell If I just write once a month, that doesn't fit by the situation how badly I wanna fight to get the Old XXX Format Back. If I just write once a month.. How will the company take that seriously?.. I honestly have alot to say but yeah mostly I write opinions multiple times but differently. But aswell it ***** to see everyone happy except me. New Cards are releasing, peeple buy them... are happy (satisfied)... but my happiness doesn't count, anymore.

And now we are so far... peeple, like you want me to stop writing on Forums.... Just great, I hope Totem Entertainment sees this aswell. As only customer and stop writing my issue will be forgotten in "No time" and you know that. 😒

**Comment to Dorsai6**
Dorsai6, just keep in mind... I dont enjoy a moment in participate the Forums but I'm on a Mission. My goal is to convince the Company, Totem Entertainment to bring back the Old XXX Format Cards into production. Convincing a Company like Totem Entertainment is not easily done. With just writing once of month, I honestly dont think that is enough.

The move the company made by changing the XXX Card into Regular Card created jealousy by me. Why are the regular card community allowed to buy and enjoy two types of cards now? it's unfair, Dorsai6.

The new models in Girls Store are so attractieve but I have to pass them because of the format while others 'Just Buy' and enjoy such type of card. That brings up 'jealousy' because I had the joy and entertainment by the Old XXX Format.

Thats what I ment by ***** feeling by seeing new upcomming models in Girls Store related to XXX Cards: Jealousy

Is it really that strange I feel jealousy after what the company has done with the XXX Cards? 😢

You have to understand that totem has gone through a ton of major changes in its software over the years. It knows how many people care about xxx through sales, and it responds accordingly. The original software had girls standing only with many outfits, then it moved to one outfit with 3 different types of dance, table, pole, standing. Then they added deskbabes, duos, cages, removed pole in some clips, added more non-nudity, had a series of no open leg, then America girls, now deskbabes is gone, full table cards are gone, Americans are gone, duos are back...and dildo play has been added to normal cards. Rex is used to having angry customers but he can tell when it is a boycott, and when it is disappointment. Terbone, I would go through all of your deskbabes cards, create a playlist of your favorites, and by the time you are done you will feel better about the future, and maybe a more hardcore experience will be ready for you.

My eyes start to glaze over opening this thread every day -.-

**Comment to Orclover**
Yeh, I know the history but this is a major mistake of change in my experience. I really want to do something to convince them. I'm sorry for my huge texts comments and I write really often. I will try to work on that.

**Comment to KatzPaw**
For you aswell. I'm sorry, my texts are huge but I really have the motivation to tell something, to bring over a message. but as I say, I will try to reduce the amount of times writing comments and keep the texts shorter.

Dorsai6 also saying I'm using the Forum to much for the same subject over and over again. I'm just thinking to give up on Forums, I have more customers against me instead of supporting me based on my personality. Orclover starts about whole history of Totem Entertainment while 'only' this very change triggered me. And changes are good! I support them but the change of the Deskbabes Card was a mistake, that change created jealousy I never had before. This issue makes me emotional quiet often and I did feel like I had to share that with the Forums. I dont really have to, i'm in contant with totem entertainment aswell by Tickets. so, I'm able to stop with Forums if the community really wants that.

**Comment to Terbone**

it is like a backstab in my back as Deskbabes Customer.

I couldn't agree more. If you want to differentiate between regular and XXX card, then make them different. Deskbabes had a clear difference from original VirtuaGirl. You said it best Terbone, WANT and NEED that difference!! Nothing about these gorgeous models remotely suggests "cheap porn" so why change what Deskbabes did such a good job of doing? All of these models have unique dances and styles on regular cards, they can (and would) be just as unique in XXX cards too.

**Comment to jlhawth**
Thanks jlhawth, your comment really cheers me up 😊

Comment to Customers
See, after so many post even new customers read something from my comments they agree with, that wouldn't happen if I write just once a month. It is a fact I just write alot of comments and they all contains huge texts but that is a part of my personality. I repeat my opinions quiet often but aswell I come up with new messages and issues/conflicts I experience. Just leave my post if you see it is written by me, if my presence bothers you. 😉

And of course, I will never give up 😀

Sorry 😊

**Comment to Team**
Kira Thorn - Sassy Girl, oh my god! I really have to make a list right now, Of models that have to come back when the Old XXX Format returns. 😲

You make me wanna *****, Totem Entertainment .. This experiment last for far to long already 😢

~ Jealousy overrules my feelings, again ~

**Comment to Team**
This new XXX format is middle in some experiment already is for so many months. Soon the New XXX Format with improvements will be tested for experiment for another 'x' amount of months aswell. Seriously, why? this experiment is really pointless. I dont wanna see these new upcomming cards anymore, I want the old xxx format back. I probaly will see the old format back over 1 á 2 year(s). I cannot face the new upcomming models if that's true. 😢

Damn it, so disconfortable to experience jealousy. Cannot stand against that emotion. I ask the company kindly to stop with this experiment, please. It breaks me to see these beautifull models but I have to ignore them. I wanna enjoy these models so badly, but their show given... doesn't entertain me. 😢💔 Please, Totem Entertainment fix the XXX Card Type with the Old Format. Only you as company are able to restore my entertainment experience.

@Terbone - it's not just you.
I watched Kira's show and even commented on it directly: what a waste of potentially awesome card... :(

My not so humble opinion:

• XXX shows should be exactly that - XXX shows
• Sound is crucial part of XXX cards
• When the choice has to be made: certain action or a sound - sound should win
• That means: no or very few dance scenes in XXX shows
• Dancing fits XXX shows like a fist fits the nose: I watched Kira's and dance between XXX clips is major "WTF" moment
• If Totem wants variety, something else should be explored, not a dance - people who like girl dancing have enough cards already!

I was thinking about few things that could spice it up without removing hotness and sound from XXX:

• add some cool-down clips where girl pretends to come back to her senses after orgasm - take a look at some of the Red Fox shows if you want to see what I mean. She can use dirty talk, caress her body and ask if I liked what I just saw... Way better than jumping back in panties and dancing like crazy!
• Girls should talk. Language is not that important - I just want to feel the steam in her voice, she can even talk about her shopping list (obviously, I'd prefer something else in case I know the language or can figure it out knowing similar one)
• perhaps add some themes (maid, nurse, school girl) and put them in motion that builds up to masturbation. NOT DANCING as it makes NO SENSE as a build up. How about cleaning up the house, girl noticing me watching here, starts to take off pieces of clothing and teases, talks dirty....? "Drops" duster and picks it up by bending over and presenting her beautiful behind? Or preparing injection, than some tease "it won't *****" and "you get reward if you are nice boy"... ;)
• glass scenes (where girl gets to play with sponge/ water/ foam) are perfect for the builds up too - sound would fit there perfectly!
• I trust people at Totem have imagination, so anything similar that is hammering "tease" part of strip-tease would be perfect.
• Standing up XXX would make sense if glass would be used in this combo. I wouldn't mind seeing girl go wild on dildo attached to this glass.... ;)

So... bringing back intro and sound is good, but if 50% of clips will be dancing (read: no sound, no XXX) - than it's hardly a solution.

Final words:

• I ***** the fact that people who don't like XXX are shaping XXX cards now. Because Totem is paying attention to their feedback, but deskbabes customers, being a minority, seem to be ignored. Shame.
• Totem should give customers clear info about the shows. Current 'XXX' shows are not XXX. These shows should be moved to different category and stop ***** people that there are new XXX shows every week. There aren't any new XXX shows, these are regular shows with a pinch of XXX. And XXX is not a salt, you need more than a pinch to make it taste like XXX.

For the old guard:

1. xxx costs more money to produce because girls expect more pay for more explicit content.

2. Previous xxx cards were losing money because customers were not buying them...and they cost more to produce.

3. Dancing= More Sales , xxx + Dancing = More Sales, card duration is finite, so less xxx and more dancing.

4. Totem has two choices...
no xxx= more money for totem
dance + xxx hybrid = compromise for customers.


PS: I know how you feel, I wish every single clip of every single card had woman twerking, but many customers want teen looking girls who do not strip or dance, so I save money, and when a Mikki or Carolina comes along I celebrate...and then wait another month to buy more cards. ***** makes the heart grow fonder.

@DiziKolo

I've said this before, bit I think it's worth repeating.

I think Totem's basic problem is that they are acting like there have just one consistent market and they are trying to target all their cards for the center of what they perceive as being that market. I think they have a collection of overlapping but distinct markets and I think they should be targeting some cards for each of these markets. One of them is the XXX market. The problem for Totem is that the return on investment for each market is different, but there is a solution: price cards differently for each market.

If I were Totem, I would not reduce the differences between types of cards, I'd make them more explicit. (pun intended) I'd even consider having additional types of card. I'd also proved much more detailed descriptions of the contents of each card so people could buy cards with greater assurance that they will get what they want.

For the record: I'm am not a big fan of XXX cards, but I like to hear the models speak. At present I own 453 e cards and 100 f cards.

I was under the impression that the xxx cards did fine sales wise, they were just stagnant. I agree watching the table clips leading up to or engaging into full xxx mode and then the next clip that plays is a dancing or pole clip is a giant turn off of the whole cards concept.

@KatzPaw

Re: I was under the impression that the xxx cards did fine sales wise

On a number of occasions @Rex has said the Totem was loosing money on XXX cards. When iStripper first came out Totem raised the price of XXX cards. Customers here on the forum ***** and they rolled back the price to be the same as regular cards.

DuziKolo, I'm with you and Terbone. XXX cards should have XXX content, or what's the point. And sound makes A LOT of difference with those cards!!

**Comment to DuziKolo**

it's not just you.
I watched Kira's show and even commented on it directly: what a waste of potentially awesome card... :(

Thank you, DuziKolo. It is good to read I'm not the only one in this opinion, I have met quiet some customers already well-proven to be disatisfied with the New XXX Format Project. This change of xxx format, they never should have done it. I have read your whole comment. Very nice post. 😎


**Comment to Orclover**
Thank you Orclover, for your time effort to post your comment. So I'm able to read it and aswell to 'bring up' a reply to your comment:

1. xxx costs more money to produce because girls expect more pay for more explicit content.

Of course, this is always the case and I understand these models. The models are still need to be want to do these kind of recordings, no matter what type of card it is. Fingering, Masturbate and using SexToys hasn't changed for all these models.

2. Previous xxx cards were losing money because customers were not buying them...and they cost more to produce.

What is the 'real' reason peeple purchesed less XXX Cards? to much of the same type of models, maybe? but not the Deskbabes XXX Card Format. Dont try to fool me here. I still enjoy cards like 'Deskbabes': Katya Clover, Merry Pie and Aislin performances. Just watch their shows properly and you notice differences between them, just simple. 😍

3. Dancing= More Sales , xxx + Dancing = More Sales, card duration is finite, so less xxx and more dancing.

That is of course 'A fair solution' well-said by a Regular Card Customer. Sorry, for me this is NOT the solution. Copy + Paste this sentece in your brain: They Made Regular iStripper Cards Less Unigue By implement Regular Card Clips into XXX Cards. There should be clear differences between two types of Cards, Regular & XXX Cards. I have peace with the fact 'Deskbabes & VirtuaGirl' community are united now with Software: iStripper, like POPEYED said we are real family now 'BUT' our type of cards suppose to be protected and untouched.

4. Totem has two choices...
no xxx= more money for totem
dance + xxx hybrid = compromise for customers.

None of these two choices has been proven to be made by the company. "They are just doing experiments", keep that in mind. Read the posts properly. and the last choice is only a compromise for Regular Cards Customers. These new xxx cards cannot even be watched properly, I experience sound/music conflicts, non-stop.

Fake Orgasms?
For extra bit of information to Totem Entertainment. Customers talk about 'fake' orgasms by the old deskbabes cards but these New XXX Cards brings 'Fake' Orgasms even more to the spotlight. How do you mention 'Katya Clover' have some very nice deskbabes cards for like ~40min show performances and now she has orgasm/climax after '2 á 3' XXX Clips, while she sensativly needed a whole Card Performance in the past (Fingering & SexToy) to have a real orgasm/climax. I highly doubt you will ever see her honestly have a climax ever again with the new xxx format in that short of time. Lets say in with the old xxx cards it was twice a show for like 15~20 minutes, one show with fingering and the other show with SexToy. now these models need to have orgasm in like 10~15 minutes. hm..I dont know, I have doubts on this. 😕

More comments/replies will follow but I have to go to work right now...😀

Thanks for reading, Terbone 😎

I get that it's istripper and dancing is a big part of that. You want to put a clip, maybe 2, of dancing in the XXX (to satisfy the istripper part of istripperXXX) but it should not overshadowed the XXX portion. People who want to watch sexy women dancing can stay in the normal istripper cards. But if you label it under istripperXXX, it should have XXX content. The sound is an integral part of those XXX cards. They differentiate between the two names, they should differentiate between the two cards. If the card says XXX, we should expect another level of eroticism beyond the dancing, and this new format is simply lacking that.

Ok I've been lurking long enough I think. I have to say I really miss the old XXX style as well. I agree with some of the opinions in the comments before my own.

When I look back at the Nekane, Viola, Melena Tara, Merry Pie, etc. XXX cards; they were fire. I got Mikki's today, and don't get me wrong its hot, and she's one of the few models I've enjoyed on here in a long time. So much so that she and Dillion Harper probably are the first cards I've gotten since Nekane's final card. But back to the point, Mikki's new XXX card would have been so much better in the old format. Again I enjoyed it, but it was lacking compared to the cards I just mentioned which is a shame since she is ridiculously sexy. There really could have been so much more to it.

**Comment to Deo305**
All these models really have to return for 'XXX Card, Old Format' Studio Shootings. 😍 .. I really miss the oppertunity to enjoy these models with the New XXX Format. It really isn't funny anymore. 😕

**Comment to Totem Entertainment**
Totem Entertainment, you have to solve this problem, only you as Team are able to. The New XXX Format experiment has last for far to long and it fails, It just doesn't appeal the "Deskbabes" Community. We as 'Deskbabes' community are just embracing and bounded by your amazing work in the past, Team Totem. We really dont want to lose that experience. Please, give us even more awesome products, we also want to enjoy New Upcomming Models like the regular card community does. We embrace the clear differences between the two types of Products. And for the good of the company, dont change ever both types of card formats. Dont make plans about to change 'Regular' cards into Soft-XXX Cards... Regular Cards are good as they are, Erotic Dance Cards. But for the love of all Deskbabes-Customers, give us back our Original Deskbabes Cards.

I would like to ask Totem Entertainment kindly to stop with this project. More unsatisfied customers will come in very near future. Please, Totem Entertainment.. go back into production with the old xxx format before our Collection List start to become a mess even more. I think it's time to solve the entertainment experience of the Deskbabes community.

POPEYED, said something beautiful few hours ago, we are A iStripper Family. In a family you want to experience stability, joy and respect, aswell you try to avoid jealousy among others. So, Totem Entertainment..I think there something very important to do for you as company:

• Solve Stability issues:

Produce and Protect Cards in VirtuaGirl/Deskbabes formats again, as before. This will bring more stability among us community. I think right now we two communities standing right in front eachother.

• Solve Respect issues:

This is not to be solved. Respect wins peeple from time-to-time and it is personal. Look, from my part I accept any others their personalities. And I hope customers notice I'm posting on the forums for the good for 'Deskbabes-Customers' but also for the good for VirtuaGirl-Customers. I dont want them to experience the same issues/conflicts as I do, but they will if you as company change the 'Regular Card Format'. There is not much to be solved in this case but It is something automaticly happens. Right now I experience alot of jealousy and disatisfaction and customers given their opinions needs to be respected but does still ***** very much. By bringing back the Old XXX Format into production you restore the stability among us and our jealousy will be gone aswell. That would result in others to be able respected more easily. Summary is quiet simple: "Aslong there is place for everyone, peeple should respect eachother" In other words, by future plans there are no Deskbabes cards in production anymore, so there is no place for us anymore among the iStripper Community. So will we not being respected. By bringing back the Old XXX Format into production the company makes us count again as Deskbabes Community. I hope you understand my point of vision here, otherwise just ask explanation.

• Solve Jealousy issues:

Sell products to all different types of customers and not just one group. In this case Totem Entertainment suppose to have two types of customers. Deskbabes and VirtuaGirl Customers, both group of customers can purchese cards for their specific desires. Some of us even purchese both card types, like myself. We Customers doesn't suppose to be jealous at eachother and with the New XXX Format released couple months ago, jealousy came among us aswell. I'm honestly jealous at Regular Card community right now because I have the feeling the company support them more and this New XXX Cards just proofs it. Said by Team: "This New XXX Cards is going to be more like the 'regular' cards". So, this leads to jealousy. I really hope the customers of regular-community place themselves in our situation and understand our feelings. How would you react when they had done the same by 'regular cards'. And for you as Company, Totem Entertainment you are in position to solve this 'jealousy' problems. I never experiences jealousy in the past. 😉


Sorry for the huge message but I cannot change my personality. Words written in my message needs to be said and I hope Totem Entertainment reads my comment. 😎 - Special Thanks to POPEYED, she is my motivation aswell. 😘😜

!,

Where are the Duo's?

They were planned "this" summer, or the next one?

😄

simple fact i believe of this situation is that Totem Entertainment do not wish to manage multiple products, Deskbabes, virtuagirl, virtualgil classic, virtuaguy, all these things have gone the way fo the dinosuar, and are evolving into a new product, attempting to cater too all.. do not label me as a "regular" type opf person, its clear from my collection, i own every deskbabes and XXX card in 1800p res and higher already

Just my 2cents, its easier for Totem to have the one product, than managing serveral differnt things,

But i feel that the voice/audio needs to be present, in even just the XXX clips, why not all, id be happy even if the lovely ladys spoke to me in russian, if the english is hard for them!

Ah well. Question would be more like: does the regular card community want to be confronted with 'xxx' content in every single upcomming released cards? If you speak about one type of product. so, no regular cards anymore. The full package type of card, I have found peace with it 😊

I just dont want the xxx to go away, i have learned to embrace the little. 😀 ... I still prefer to see the original xxx format but my actions must not lead to no xxx cards at all anymore in the future. 😉

We're still tuning the new XXX format at the studio. XXX clips come with sound, they last about 5mn instead of 3, the girl introducing herself is back as well. We had two duos scheduled for the summer, I heard on of them was canceled, so I believe the other one recorded two duo cards. To be released this fall.

Thanks for the update @Rex

Hehehhe I'm at work right now and watching all these bonus videos of my collection on my android phone 😀 I have selected some xxx videos of course😍

Thanks for the update 'Rex'! I'm sure you can make us happy with something else, we just need to wait a while longer for the duo's. Alright, the xxx clips are 5 mn instead of 3mn, but how many xxx clips will a xxx card atleast have soon?

And thank team totem for the Bonus Videos & Photo, I use them well on my android devices. 😊

Rex. increase the duration from 3mn to 5mn doesn't really matter if the Card itself only contain '1' clip, yes? 😕 ...And as you can notice by the XXX Clip added by Milana, the duration = 4+ minutes...

How can we be guaranteed 'not' to see Cards anymore in the future with just 1 single XXX Clip?

Well, very appealing Improvements would be for me about the New XXX Cards, in my opinion:
Minimum Time Duration: 5+ Minutes
Amount of XXX Clips: 3 á 4 Clips (15~20mn)

... Yeh, of course. The more and longer the XXX Content, even better 😜

What I just meen is, Team Totem. Try to produce reliable Cards. The new xxx cards like we have now are far to mysterious. I believe the company is using '3' different types of New XXX Formats last season. Take a look below:

*Rare, Cards like this one really suppose to have much more XXX Card content, read the comments*
80% Regular Clips (Pole + Dancing)-(Music)
20% XXX Card (Sex Clips / SexToys)-(Sound)

*The New XXX Format, Customers are happy about the format but they request for improvements*
65% Regular Clips (Pole + Dancing)-(Music)
35% XXX Card (Sex Clips / SexToys)-(Sound)

*Rare, aswell. These Cards have some decent amount of XXX Card content, still have to be more*
60% Regular Clips (Pole + Dancing)-(Music)
40% XXX Card (Sex Clips / SexToys)-(Sound)

I cannot wait to see the New XXX Card with Improvements but I hope aside from the fact Milana gave some nice and sexy performance, her type of cards are history. (1 á 2 XXX Clips and each clip 4+ minutes duration), her type of cards belongs in the first category I wrote in the statestics above.

Thanks 😎

One Single XXX Clip ?

Where did you get "One XXX Clip" ???

Who said that and where ??

Please refer to this post in this thread........

https://www.istripper.com/forum/thread/36444/1?post=538238

iStripper에 관한 모든 것 / New XXX cards

Thanks for your input about the new format for XXX cards. @Terbone I have a lot of respect for your opinion, but 67% of voters think we should continue with the new format and improve it. So we plan t...

Where Rex said this........

4) There will be a minimum of 3 XXX clips on the table of 5mn minimum duration each where fingers and different dildos will be used.


This is all upcoming. What you're talking about is done and in the past now.

Thanks 91hebasu!, there are so many threads and comments. I did honestly lost that sentence 😀 I was hoped "Rex" would have repeated that Info again in his Update, like he did with the '5mn' duration instead of '3mn' information.

I asked the company for the first time to make reliable XXX Cards and not 3 á 5 different kind of New XXX Cards, my comment was about that. No more mysterious Cards 😄

I think honestly 'Pole/Dancing' looks beautiful in the XXX Cards but XXX content suppose to be "much" more. I would have done the complete opposite if I was part of the company, 5~10 mintues Pole/Dancing and the Rest of the card, XXX Content. Pole/Dancing fits must better in XXX Cards as extra entertainment but how I think the company changed the cards, the XXX content is the extra entertainment in their own type of card.

Ah well. Question would be more like: does the regular card community want to be confronted with 'xxx' content in every single upcomming released cards? If you speak about one type of product. so, no regular cards anymore. The full package type of card, I have found peace with it 😊

I just dont want the xxx to go away, i have learned to embrace the little. 😀 ... I still prefer to see the original xxx format but my actions must not lead to no xxx cards at all anymore in the future. 😉

Actually i dont care, one has the ability not too see content they dont wisah to see