You've been waiting for her impatiently following the few pictures we got from the studio...

Here she is, the amazing italian beauty Layla Scarlett!

You've been dreaming of becoming Teddy? Now you can fully identify 😍


Enjoy

@Evaneself Hello, Sorry about that; I have just added the missing credits : ) Please click on "sync with server" in the software settings . Thank you

To all, our cashback offer ends very soon!! There is less than an hour left!! it will stop @11.00am Paris time today !

@ComteDracula

Why don't you let the Totem team answer?

Because I am, like you, well aware that Totem provide little in the way of feedback - and, like any business, are very unlikely to explain basic business decisions. I, like you, would welcome more feedback. And also think it would indeed often be in Totem's interest to provide it - but not necessarily so in this case, where any explanation should be given to their investors not to their customers.

Customer satisfaction is not, and in my opinion never should be, the primary purpose of a normal business. If you look on customer satisfaction as a tool, or something to exploit, for increasing or maintaining profits then you will go a long way in understanding many business decisions. (and by profit I do not just mean short term profit).

Of course in reality it is not always black and white and many companies do indulge in things that are not purely profit driven - but as a first approximation it is useful to examine "offers" and other features by assuming that they are.

In the case of the mobile streaming service there will be a cost to the company in providing it. Possibly a considerable cost especially if you consider that streamed shows have to be served each time they are played rather than just once for a downloaded card. In order to justify (to their investors) providing the service that cost needs to be regained in some way, some possible ways are

1 - Increased sales
2 - Charging for it
3 - Advertising

If increased sales would not cover the extra costs (something that the Beta version could have determined) then what do you think Totem should have done ?

yeah..we all do same thang
should be FG738A not 378A damnit , also😘
Note to self - should not use immediate apostrophes in code comments anywhere
It screws with da Totem Forum code posting syntax as @per'

@Z22 yeah, and scale: -1, 1

Goddamit. :D

@Z22 yeah, and scale: -1, 1 to both da clipsprites, maybe
Great outcome to a question & answer guys...
works well this code , Thanks lots.
FG378A (not in the zip)

text: Info/infoFractalGarden738.txt
logo: Info/small_logoFractalgarden738.png
minVersion: 1.2.0.80
//uses Refract.fsh from Z22_SexualPredetor_V'1.1.scn by @ Z22
// amendments by @Z22
clip {
id: Clip
deny: top, table
nameGlowColor: 0.77, 0.70, 0.35
// allow: pole
}

clip {
id: Clip2
deny: top, table
nameGlowColor: 0.77, 0.70, 0.35
//allow: pole
}

texture {
id: BG2
source: Textures/Beige01.png
size: 3840, 2160
}

framebuffer {
id: BG
size: 3840, 2160
pos: 1920, 1080

sprite {
source: BG2
shader: fragment, Shaders/KilledByAPixel/GeodeMod01.fsh
}
}

framebuffer {
id: Girl01
size: 3840, 2160
pos: 820 , 980 //1520, 980

clipSprite {
pos: 0, 1080
standingHeight: 1800
sittingheight: 1500
source: Clip
scale: -1, 1
}
}

framebuffer {
id: Girl02
size: 3840, 2160
pos: 3000, 980 //2320, 980

clipSprite {
pos: 0, 1080
standingHeight: 1800
sittingheight: 1500
source: Clip2
scale: -1, 1
}
}

framebuffer {
size: 3840, 2160
pos: 1920, 1080
id: Refract

sprite {
source: Girl01, 0
source: BG, 1
uniform: t_offset, float, 0.0 // Original 0
uniform: t_factor, float, 1.0 // Original 1
shader: fragment, Shaders/z22/Refract.fsh
}
}

framebuffer {
size: 3840, 2160
pos: 1920, 1080
id: Refract2

sprite {
source: Girl02, 0
source: BG, 1
uniform: t_offset, float, 5.0 // Original 0
uniform: t_factor, float, 1.3 // Original 1
shader: fragment, Shaders/z22/Refract.fsh
}
}
////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
camera {
type: 2D
size: 3840, 2160
pos: 1920, 1080

sprite {
source: BG
}

sprite {
//pos: 0, 0 // pos has already been defined Girl01, these are offsets to the previous definition not absolutes.
source: Refract
}

sprite {
source: Refract2
}

clipNameSprite {
source: Clip
pos: -620, 680 // 2D
}

clipNameSprite {
source: Clip2
pos: 620, 680
}
}👍

WHY ARE YOU CHARGING FOR MOBILE SHOWS AT ALL IF YOUR PLAN WAS TO TAKE THEM AWAY???????

@froon0 you are correct and anyone capable of thinking about it openly would agree. If you have no interest in keeping the shows for the desktop then I would contact Totem support and explain the situation and ask for credit towards the mobile app.

The product you beta tested required buying cards or there would be nothing to Beta test. Switching it to a subscription is effectively a different product and not the product you beta tested. If anything, the mobile app is a Beta test to switching the desktop version to subscription as well.

I thought the mobile app was there to add value to desktop users and try and get the interest of mobile users but I guess Totem saw an opportunity to make a buck. I don't fault them for that but they really need to make mobile users whole.

@Evaneself

I agree with your findings.
in your account History
the Christy White & Eve Sweet / Kiss With A Fist for 22 credits

did not trigger the CashBack for the Least expensive card of 16.5 credits.

I will send a PM to the Team to investigate.

I tried to install istripper mobile on my laptop as a web app using the microsoft edge desktop web browser. I have to say it actually looks pretty good. Snapped to the right, using one third of the screen it looks like a proper app. The design team did a good job here. If they really get the VR shows on this app and it's included in the 7.99 price I may consider it after all.

@TheEmu Why don't you let the Totem team answer?

You know very well that it is this lack of response on their part, which aggravates the climate between customers, because the answers must come from the team. That's what clients expect from them.

Totem makes the decisions, it is up to them to assume them and to show that they really care about their customers, if that is what they really want of course.


@TheEmu Pourquoi ne laissez-vous pas l'équipe de Totem répondre ?

Vous savez très bien que c'est ce manque de réponse de leur part, qui envenime le climats entre les clients, car les réponses c'est de l'équipe qu'elles doivent venir. C'est ce que les clients attendent de leur part.

C'est Totem qui prend les décisions, c'est à eux à les assumer et à démontrer qu'ils se préoccuppent vraiment de leur clients, si c'est ce qu'ils désirent vraiment évidemment.

It is useless to speak here, competition will speak for all of us, or torrent

If it aint broke, dont fix it

where do you get these answers?

I get the answers by actually reading what Totem have said and thinking, cynically, about it.

i should get rid of that bright outline ....

@TheEmu, where do you get these answers?

From the Totem team that mandates you to do so or are they your own conclusions?


@TheEmu, où prenez vous ces réponses ?

De l'équipe de Totem qui vous mandate pour le faire ou ce sont vos propres conclusions ?

you CHARGED people to buy mobile shows

No they did not - they allowed people to buy the same cards as they would in the app or via the main web site. People may have bought them to make use of the streaming system without fully understanding what they were buying, but that is not the same thing at all..

There may well be a valid criticism regarding clarity of what was on offer - but as I have no interrest in streaming the shows I have never looked at the mobile site so I don't know whether this is true or not.

WHY ARE YOU CHARGING FOR MOBILE SHOWS AT ALL IF YOUR PLAN WAS TO TAKE THEM AWAY

Because it costs money to make and stream the mobile versions of the shows.

Among the aspects that the beta version of the site will have been testing are "customer demand" and "how much does it cost to provide the service" together with and "can we increase our a profit by offering the service" . The answer to that last one might well have been "no, it will be detrimental to our profits" resulting in the streaming option being withdrawn completely.

Small precision here.

Let's not blame the moderators.

They do an honorable job. They don't have to be subjected to Totem's decisions, and they have my respect. 😊

It's up to the Totem team to answer customer questions and disappointments, because yes communication on their part is often lacking, when it happens.


Petite précision ici.

Ne blâmons surtout pas les modérateurs.

Ils font un travail honorable. Ils n'ont pas à subir les décisions de Totem, et ils ont tout mon respect. 😊

C'est à l'équipe de Totem de répondre aux questions et aux déceptions des clients, car oui la communication de leur part est souvent déficiente, lorsque cela se présente.

text: Info/infoFractalGarden738.txt
logo: Info/small_logoFractalgarden738.png
minVersion: 1.2.0.80
//uses GetNormal3Oct.fsh from Z22_SexualPredetor.scn by @ Z22

clip
{
id: Clip
deny: top, table
nameGlowColor: 0.77, 0.70, 0.35
// allow: pole
}

clip
{
id: Clip2
deny: top, table
nameGlowColor: 0.77, 0.70, 0.35
//allow: pole
}

texture
{
id: BG2
source: Textures/Beige01.png
size: 3840, 2160
}


framebuffer
{
id: BG
size: 3840, 2160
pos: 1920, 1080

sprite
{
source: BG2
//shader: fragment, Shaders/KilledByAPixel/GeodeMod01.fsh
shader: fragment, Shaders/Calgon/Face3.fsh
}
}

////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
framebuffer
{
id: Girl01
size: 3840, 2160
// pos: 1920, 1080
pos: 1520, 980

clipSprite
{
pos: 0, 1080
standingHeight: 1800
sittingheight: 1500
source: Clip
}
}

framebuffer
{
id: Girl02
size: 3840, 2160
// pos: 1920, 1080
pos: 2320, 980

clipSprite
{
pos: 0, 1080
standingHeight: 1800
sittingheight: 1500
source: Clip2
}
}

////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////



framebuffer
{
size: 3840, 2160
pos: 1920, 1080
id: Refract

sprite
{
source: Girl01, 0
source: BG, 1
uniform: t_offset, float, 0.0 // Original 0
uniform: t_factor, float, 1.0 // Original 1
shader: fragment, Shaders/z22/Refract.fsh
}
}

framebuffer
{
size: 3840, 2160
pos: 1920, 1080
id: Refract2

sprite
{
source: Girl02, 0
source: BG, 1
uniform: t_offset, float, 5.0 // Original 0
uniform: t_factor, float, 1.3 // Original 1
shader: fragment, Shaders/z22/Refract.fsh
}
}

////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
camera
{
type: 2D // Dont need 3D cam for what you are dong here.
size: 3840, 2160
pos: 1920, 1080
//pos: 0, 0, 2600 // z not required in 2D camera
//target: 0, 0, 0 //not required in 2D camera

sprite
{
source: BG
}

sprite
{
//pos: 0, 0 // pos has already been defined Girl01, these are offsets to the previous definition not absolutes.
source: Refract
}

sprite
{
//pos: 0, 0 // dito
source: Refract2
}

clipNameSprite {
source: Clip
pos: -620, 680 // 2D
//scale: 1.0, 1.0 // does nothing.
//rot: 0, 0, 0 //dito
}

clipNameSprite {
source: Clip2
pos: 620, 680
//scale: 1.0, 1.0
//rot: 0, 0, 0
}

}

works. but i couldnt see in face3.fsh where you flipped the Y so you just need to remove that

Fans should be seos

Short term you will get more money, Long term you will disappear giving chance to competition. Remember the good ald times

Dont blame for my poor capacity to accept failure or my lazyness to read your terms, just understand that you had a great product i will miss.

As for the other one, i will be a bad habit to define the framebuffers your way and then correct the ***** in shader.

The way i have shown (and totem in their scenes) does not cause a Y flipped output.

@EverthangForever @Z22

@Calgon.. I had a look at your changes..(above). Its tricky with shader backgrounds.
Looks like the shader wants to re-center in the clipsprite's original (starting) quad.
I'm not overly familiar with 2D camera adjustments to suit shader backgrounds nested
in a clipsprite or vice versa...better to ask @Z22 or @TheEmu how offsetting your clipspite
pos affects this when using a 2D camera.
I'd got the original version working just fine, with two girls and their invisibility coming on and off at different times using additional "uniform" parameters in the SCN fed through to the shader....but at the mo. with this "refract" version the background seems to be offset.

Ahh, think i know what you are talking about, in the refract shader ...

float mul1 = 1530.0*BG.r;
float mul2 = 1560.0*BG.g;
float mul3 = 1590.0*BG.b;

alter those multipliers to smaller numbers. the 30,60,90 cause the "rainbow"

It will get worst

I know how they make money and their intentions. I just need a sorry, I know we ***** you. I know very well that nothing will change.

I was recommending your service to my friends. They told me: ohh you are very demanding when paying for pornography. Now I am theirs mockery. And they tell me: "pornography is free idiot". I think they were right.

@EverthangForever @Z22

@Calgon.. I had a look at your changes..(above). Its tricky with shader backgrounds.
Looks like the shader wants to re-center in the clipsprite's original (starting) quad.
I'm not overly familiar with 2D camera adjustments to suit shader backgrounds nested
in a clipsprite or vice versa...better to ask @Z22 or @TheEmu how offsetting your clipspite
pos affects this when using a 2D camera.

I'd got the original version working just fine, with two girls and their invisibility coming on and off at different times using additional "uniform" parameters in the SCN fed through to the shader....but at the mo. with this "refract" version the background seems to be offset.

Sorry for not being able to express my thoughts as smoothly as some users. I'm a doctor. When people die, you have to tell the news to the relatives and for that you receive a training, where they explain to you that you have to be empathic with the patient. You shouldn't say, "I'm so sorry for your loss, BUT life goes on and you have to get over it." It's bullshit, the familiar ***** you. It's called empathy. No buts allowed. "I'm sorry BUT you didn't read the terms." Programming access to the shows that we bought on the cell phone costs nothing. I'm a programmer anyway, if you want I can help you in 5 minutes if you lend me your code. Repay our fidelity. They make more money being nice, than insulting with moderators who are not empathetic. You have enogh money to train your people an make even more money. All ears!!! lot of laughing.

@Z22 @EverthangForever

Updated FG738 in the zip. ie: corrected left-right model orientationre-captioned & now uses only Refract.fsh & way less fb as per SPV1.1https://scenes.virtuastripper.net/ET_FractalGarden737-750.zip
Just tinkering around with that one with the new code and I found that if I offset the clip to the left, the refracted version has the wrong background. I tried offsetting the framebuffer to the same new position but that didn't fix it.

framebuffer
{
id: BG
source: BG2
size: 3840, 2160
pos: 1920, 1080
shader: fragment, Shaders/KilledByAPixel/GeodeMod01.fsh
}

err

framebuffer
{
id: BG
source: BG2
size: 3840, 2160
pos: 1920, 1080

sprite
{
source: BG2, 0
shader: fragment, Shaders/KilledByAPixel/GeodeMod01.fsh
}

}

I think the error occured because of the way you defined the framebuffer (without a sprite or quad to render to) so perhaps it created one after the co-ordinates were flipped and so when it came back and the co-ordinates were flipped to match the .scn it reversed the image.

afik,

sprite defined
sprite flipped to open gl standard co-ords
shader functions
sprite fliped back to .scn standard.

@Calgon.. I had a look at your changes..(above). Its tricky with shader backgrounds.
Looks like the shader wants to re-center in the clipsprite's original (starting) quad.
I'm not overly familiar with 2D camera adjustments to suit shader backgrounds nested
in a clipsprite or vice versa...better to ask @Z22 or @TheEmu how offsetting your clipspite
pos affects this when using a 2D camera.

@Evolver1980 , you're a desktop user, you have purchased all your shows from the software :) During the Beta phase of iStripper mobile, you had access to all the shows available on mobile at no cost :)

iStripper mobile is not intended to be free for ever... and it has found its audience with mobile only users who are pleased to now have access to ALL our catalog + 3 new releases per week + photos and videos + the VR180 vids soon, for the price of 3 mobile shows...

The problem is that you CHARGED people to buy mobile shows in the "Beta" just to take them away, with 0 warning that this would happen. You also state that the membership is only the cost of 3 mobile shows. WHY ARE YOU CHARGING FOR MOBILE SHOWS AT ALL IF YOUR PLAN WAS TO TAKE THEM AWAY??????? If this was your intention all along you should have never allowed mobile shows to be purchased at all, just viewed if you owned the card on dektop. Your obvious greed and disregard for current users is where you messed up and pissed off a lot of people. I am astonished that you guys didn't think this thru, or maybe you did and just dont care 😐

Very good comment @redforleather 😊

Curious, this discussion thread should be one of customer questions, and answers from the Totem team (or so I thought).

Even @Celine starts it off by saying, "We're all ears :)".

And as usual they just listen, don't answer and let the moderators and other customers, who presume the intentions of Totem, answer for them.

There must be a rule somewhere that I haven't read, which should explain this?

Just an observation like that.


Très bon commentaire @redforleather 😊

Curieux, ce fil de discussion devrait en être un de questions des clients, et de réponses de l'équipe de Totem (du moins je le croyais).

Même @Celine le débute en disant : « Nous sommes toute ouïe :) ».

Et comme à leur habitude ils ne font qu'écouter, ne répondent pas et laisse les modérateurs et autres clients, qui présument les intention de Totem, répondre à leur place.

Il doit y avoir une règle quelquepart que je n'ai pas lu, qui doit expliquer cela ?

Simple observation comme ça.

@Z22 @EverthangForever

Updated FG738 in the zip. ie: corrected left-right model orientationre-captioned & now uses only Refract.fsh & way less fb as per SPV1.1https://scenes.virtuastripper.net/ET_FractalGarden737-750.zip

Just tinkering around with that one with the new code and I found that if I offset the clip to the left, the refracted version has the wrong background. I tried offsetting the framebuffer to the same new position but that didn't fix it.

text: Info/infoFractalGarden738.txt
logo: Info/small_logoFractalgarden738.png
minVersion: 1.2.0.80
//uses Refract.fsh from Z22_SexualPredetor_V'1.1.scn by @ Z22

clip
{
id: Clip
deny: top
//allow: pole
}

texture
{
id: BG2
source: Textures/Beige01.png
size: 3840, 2160
}
framebuffer
{
id: BG
source: BG2
size: 3840, 2160
pos: 1920, 1080
shader: fragment, Shaders/KilledByAPixel/GeodeMod01.fsh
}

////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
framebuffer
{
id: Girl
size: 3840, 2160
pos: 1320, 1080

clipSprite
{
pos: 0, 1080
standingHeight: 1800
sittingheight: 1500
source: Clip
scale: -1, 1
}
}






////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////



framebuffer
{
size: 3840, 2160
pos: 1320, 1080
id: Refract

sprite
{
source: Girl, 0
source: BG, 1
// source: Girl02, 2
// source: Girl03, 3
// shader: fragment, Shaders/z22/GetNormal3Oct.fsh
shader: fragment, Shaders/z22/Refract.fsh
}
}

////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
camera
{
type: 2D
size: 3840, 2160
pos: 1920, 1080

sprite
{
source: BG
}

sprite
{

source: Refract
}

}

I have noticed Celine respond to two users separately, and Manue to respond to one (at the beginning).

At most, Celine only says this to us users:

iStripper mobile is not intended to be free for ever... and it has found its audience with mobile only users who are pleased to now have access to ALL our catalog + 3 new releases per week + photos and videos + the VR180 vids soon, for the price of 3 mobile shows

I am sure this is not entirely true, as one member (mobile only user) I above mentioned is not happy with the change.
How many other mobile only users are not happy, even angry about losing their paid cards, and need a subscription just to see anything?

I'm happy to make use of the free days offered. However I won't be subscribing after. At least not continuously. I may however subscribe from time to time. As @Luaszr points out it's like Netflix. It will be very useful every couple months to peruse cards I've been thinking about purchasing to see if I like them before buying for desktop. That I do like.

As with some other things (most notably for me the issue with the premium monthly/annual subscription), it is an understandable but also questionable business practice combined with just pretty bad and poor communication, by Totem generally but also some moderators of this forum, especially toward the probably most engaged customer base also writing in the forum.

First, I can generally understand the reasoning behind making the mobile site subscription based, and that this may attract a new and different customer base. However, when the subscription is essentially the price of purchasing three cards a month, I do wonder whether the same customers would not have been equally interested in buying three or more cards a month, when the site itself is generally attractive. Be that as it may, I don't have enough info to make a call here.

Second, though, it should be clear to Totem that this change to a subscription service is a disadvantage to many users who bought a lot of cards and saw the mobile site as a (long awaited) option to play them in this format as well. Instead, it is being sold as this exciting change, and this is just a bit insulting to the intelligence of the customers. The fact that I get, with having purchased over 5000 cards in total, 30 free days, which is basically like a free trial month, is just not that really exciting an offer, I am sorry.

Third, when some of the dissatisfaction and frustration is being voiced here, which is clearly the right forum to do so, instead of receiving any form of acknowledgment that this may not be such a great deal for everybody, but there were a number of things to take into account etc., there is very little of that (mostly silence on the official end) and instead you find moderators (!) who appear to find it necessary to basically berate customers for not having read the terms and services properly and that it was a BETA version all along etc. And that is just such poor communication, it is uncalled for, and again quite insulting (and again echoes the communication failure for the most part around the subscription issue).

I don't think Totem needs to be villified with what they did here, but it would be nice if they acknowledged that this is a mixed-bag at best for, let's say,a substantial number of customers, and that there would be a way and willingness to accept and respond to this criticism without reflexively defending Totem's business practices, even to the extent of being disrespectful to the customers (again, not everyone, but there are posts by some moderators where I don't see much moderating skill, for instance. but then again maybe it should be the team and not the moderators picking up the slack here).

Updated FG738 in the zip. ie: corrected left-right model orientationre-captioned & now uses only Refract.fsh & way less fb as per SPV1.1https://scenes.virtuastripper.net/ET_FractalGarden737-750.zip

Wow ! That's a lot simpler

@EverthangForever

👍 😎

I have screenshots as affiliation and proof in the Account history.
I bought other 3 cards after the card of 22 credit and the card of 16,5 credit, and I've got 16,5 credits back.
THE CARD OF 22 CREDITS DON'T GIVE MONEY BACK.
iStripper owes me 16.5 credits. Case solved.

Updated FG738 in the zip. ie: corrected left-right model orientation
re-captioned & now uses only Refract.fsh & way less fb as per SPV1.1
https://scenes.virtuastripper.net/ET_FractalGarden737-750.zip

I had around 502 credits, nou I have 315,11 credits.
I'm not great at math, maybe I'm wrong. Someone to help me to understand!

3x 16,5 = 49,5 (only 3 cards calculated, because the fourth card is free if it's the same price)

49,5x 2 = 99 (2 cards free)

99 + 49,5 (only 3 cards bought, waiting to get the fourth free or discounted) = 148,5 credits

502 (my initial credit) - 148,5 = 353,5 credits ( total left in my account, waiting to get the fourth free)

Now..
353,5 - 22 (christy & eve) = 331,5 credits left (no credits back)

331,5 - 16,5 (eve delight) = 315 credits (still no credits back)


My account now shows 315.11
I can't play this rare event!!!!

Dont say I didnt buy my shows for mobile but for pc. I was using the mobile version while buying for mobile. And now is gone.

Is it legal? To restrict me from something I have bought and i have the right to?

So, at the very least, you will always have the right to play any cards that you have downloaded.

'Always' ?

Well that definitely doesn't sound right or at least certainly very conditional. Mobile only users can no longer play their cards without buying a computer and if you don't have a backup of the removed cards you can't play those so 'Always' doesn't seem like always.

I assume that if Totem shuts down IS (either goes out of business or finds a better business) then IS will play shows for at least as long as its on the same computer. I seriously doubt I will be able to install it on a new computer and continue on. I'm OK with this but it doesn't feel like 'Always' to me. I could be wrong and 'Always' might really mean 'Always' but I'm not counting on it. Even it that was spelled out in the terms then it wont mean much if they are not around to be ***** to comply with 'Always'.

When is going to be Istripper for desktop a subscrition service?

It has no meaning now to buy shows, I will lose my money.

Blizzard went for a free to play service for overwatch, but they respected all the skins users had preveusly bought. They care about users. Istripper cares only about money, and do not hesitate to rob or disappoint us.

@dar2112v

I never read terms .. they all say the same thing. The user has no ownership or rights and the seller does.

If you did bother to read the licence then you would find, among other things, that

1 - It does give you rights to download and play the cards

2 - Totem can change the licence, but can not apply those changes retroactively

So, at the very least, you will always have the right to play any cards that you have downloaded.

@celine Please, help!
I want my credits back and I want to play safe this event tonight, because is very rare and I am not rich!!!

All the cards are 16.50 credits, except the Christy White & Eve Sweet which is 22 credits.
More than this, the next 16.50 card which is Eve Sweet / Delightful Pussy doesn't matter either, to give me back 16.50 credits.

This is my Account history until now:

Date Action Category Amount

1 minute ago Eve Sweet / Delightful Pussy Added to collection
13 minutes ago Christy White & Eve Sweet / Kiss With A Fist Added to collection
13 minutes ago Belka / Dragon Bulge Added to collection
13 minutes ago Kelly Collins / Sail Me To The Moon Added to collection
14 minutes ago Alissa Foxy / I Saw The Wolf Added to collection

23 minutes ago 16.5 credit(s) given by the system Earned
23 minutes ago Nata Ocean / Whooping It Up Added to collection
23 minutes ago Cashback bonus! 16.5 credits added to your account! Information
23 minutes ago Kitty / Overload Added to collection
23 minutes ago Sonya Blaze / Super Sonya Added to collection
24 minutes ago Milkavi / Stranger Flings Added to collection

31 minutes ago 16.5 credit(s) given by the system Earned
31 minutes ago Freya Mayer / Porn Star Light Added to collection
31 minutes ago Cashback bonus! 16.5 credits added to your account! Information
31 minutes ago Freya Mayer / Deep Into My Wonderland Added to collection
32 minutes ago Lottie Magne / Teen's Gambit Added to collection
32 minutes ago Paola Hard / Oh! Mei God! Added to collection

1 hour ago 500 credit(s) bought

I think everyone forgets that they had to Agree to the Mobile BETA Terms

I never read terms .. they all say the same thing. The user has no ownership or rights and the seller does. You can use as many words as you like to say it but its always the same. In the end it is how trust worthy is the company I use Microsoft and Google products. No love for them but at least some trust.

Google recently started charging me for my 'Legacy' email plan; it was free for about 14 years but they decided it was time to start charging for the business plans. I still have several free plans for personal and family use. I was given at least 6 moths advance notice this was coming. It's fair to charge for me for business accounts and generous to allow me to keep personal plans. Hence the trust.

The terms of IS say I own nothing (I haven't actually read them but it's a safe bet); so if they go out of business or change businesses that it's safe to say my 3000 card investment will be gone. I'm not upset or angered by this fact as it's common sense no matter what the terms say. Trying to use the term/EULA/etc as an excuse to take advantage of customers doesn't help the trust.

Here is my opinion as an outsider (never used mobile version and never will)

• noone can expect it for free of charge, because it is a lot of work to process the shows to that format

HOWEVER

• for those people who are using the product exclusively on mobile (=purchased the cards there) Totem should give back their collection for free of charge and delete their further computer registraction option (you have possiblity to run your collection on two computers - limit that only to mobile phone for those users who insist to that!)

It shouldn't be that big programming to solve this.
Otherwise since I don't use this on mobile, I don't care, so just an idea how not to disappoint and lose your mobile customers.