Well, to be pedantic RFN is not an acronym - it's an initialism. True acronyms are pronounable words like "radar" or "Nasa", but the distinction between the two is pretty well much ignored nowadays

You are correct, RFN is just an abbreviation of Real Full Nudity and not an Acronym. You really did google this didn't you @TheEmu

Well, to be pedantic RFN is not an acronym - it's an initialism. True acronyms are pronounable words like "radar" or "Nasa", but the distinction between the two is pretty well much ignored nowadays

It is an acronym
Yes, I know it is an acronym. I even stated that it is an acronym in my question.

Sorry I clicked send before even completing the message fully.

It is an acronym used by many members here since, when iStripper labels cards as 'Full Nudity', they are not always full nudity as the models don't get certain outfits off their body. Therefore the term RFN was coined to give a little more clarity on that subject. Real full nudity is used by memebers in comments area mostly to suggest that the model strips everything off.

It is an acronym

Yes, I know it is an acronym. I even stated that it is an acronym in my question.

@john555 , where does this term 'real full nudity' and its acronym RFN actually come from? Does Totem really advertise using such terms?

It is an acronym

@John555 - No matter how the terms are defined, and now that we completely understand what you are asking it still comes down to you asking that a particular preference of yours, i.e. that every last piece of clothing is removed, is made a feature of every card but that similar preferences of others (e.g. that shoes or stockings stay on) should therefore not get this privileged status.

I think everybody that has contributed to this thread has understood what it is about - except perhaps you. Some of us have been trying to explain why we regard your idea as a poor one.

Ha ha ha. Looks like someone got ***** with some subtle British rhetorical humour delivered masterfully be @Number6

@john555 , where does this term 'real full nudity' and its acronym RFN actually come from? Does Totem really advertise using such terms?

Nay th@ Ok!!!

@gkar45 do you also have the same question as Number6 buddy?

What about the girls who don't shave. Is it not fully nude unless their pubic hair is removed?

What about tatoos - do they need to remove them off as well? After all they are covering up certain parts of flesh.

The debate around fully nude can be somewhat pedantic I prefer a broad definition rather than a proscribed version.

@Number6 Haha, your examples make me laugh they are insane. I hope I do have some sanity left to explain what is full nudity to you.

1) How do think you would get inside a shower for a bath?
2) After you jump inside a pool, exclude whatever that is soaked or affected by water. I mean remove everything that absorbs water.
3) How do you make love?

For all of the above, if not at least one of the above 3 points should give you a perception of what full nudity is. Guys I am 100% sane explaining what's full nudity to @Number6 😀😀😆

Feel free to ask more questions, like the old man says, 'I can do this all day'.

@john555

iStripper advertises 'bare feet' as Real Full Naked. Any card that is tagged as bare feet, the model fully unclads ultimately. Check it out, that is why I mentioned bare feet.

Can you give us the evidence When & Where iStripper advertised bare feet as real full naked ? Please, prove what you said is true, otherwise I wonder whether this topic at the beginning is a farce or not.

Which should be the new norm for all upcoming clips.

Which is why I pointed out it may be impractical for certain types of shoes (i.e. in this case Bonnie's but there are other examples).

In Bonnies case in my opinion there is enough bare flesh on view to consider it fully nude, despite the fact that she keeps the sandals on.

I understand what the bare feet tag means.

Fully nude in this context is Totem's classification of fully nude.

This does not necessarily include bare feet, belts, garters, suspenders or jewellery.

What about the girls who don't shave. Is it not fully nude unless their pubic hair is removed?

What about tatoos - do they need to remove them off as well? After all they are covering up certain parts of flesh.

The debate around fully nude can be somewhat pedantic I prefer a broad definition rather than a proscribed version.

If I can be confident that fully nude means at least a view of the girl showing her arse, tits and pussy then I am reasonably happy. If this also includes every item of clothing, shoes, jewellery, etc. removed then that is also fine.

Other than that I don't really care and,therefore actually disagree with your post as being too restrictive.

yes we understand - but you should also understand that the label "full nudity" used by Totem is not a description of the card. It is just a name used for a level of eroticness. This has been explained many times here. It is, in my opinion, a poorly chosen name because it does ***** some users.

@TheEmu I agree, makes sense.

@john555
Yes i know, you are talking about end points or outcome of a performance..not the stripping process.
It has nothing to do with an act ending with the model wearing waders in her performance, for instance.

If you want an explanation of Totem's definition of 'Full Nudity', it was prescribed as a card/clip tag category a long time ago when the owners percieved a European Strip Club notion of 'Full Nudity' to include shoes and maybe other things.
This certainly does not apply in many other regions of the world and as far as online Adult services go in Europe now , it no longer applies there also. In fact in webchat today one pays tokens for shoes to be put on. It is seen as a 'fetish' and has a price.

So 'Full Nudity' is bound up in the early card tagging system and because so many cards have been produced / catalogued since then, its true that Totem's card coding system cannot be back tracked & reworked to something different without having to deal with overwhelming prohibitive labour costs, interuptions, & delays vetting & changing everything. Enough downside possibly to break the company.

if you want the entire explanation search 'Full Nudity' in the Forums and you will find a wealth of explanation. If Totem could do everything from scratch again, in hindsight, I'm sure they would do it differently. The ostensible Tag names remain purely because of a legacy coding difficulty as far as I know.

@Chiksans, not a card 'rating' system per se...more of a card/clip agreed 'eroticism levels' coding standard.
Shheeesh, no wonder peeps get ***** ;-/
Btw, imho we also should avoid calling customer card Comments ~'Ratings". Maybe better to refer to them as ' Reviews'

@EverthangForever I agree and I would just wish the same, in hindsight, I'm sure they would do it differently. I don't have a problem with the labeling as I consider Categories as well. In that way I am really not deceived. My only concern was the topic drifting towards just shoe on/off. Anyway, you made total sense.

I would like to have every card of every model to have at least 3 bare foot clips to make happy and to make me pay for it. Which should be the new norm for all upcoming clips.

Outfits are great on models but they are meant to be stripped away and most viewers would like to have them stripped away fully naked. I mean butt naked, bare foot naked and to see them wear nothing at all.
Sorry @john555

Your original post specifically mentions bare foot clips and bare feet. Why would this exclude a discussion on shoes? And the removal thereof?

@Number6 iStripper advertises 'bare feet' as Real Full Naked. Any card that is tagged as bare feet, the model fully unclads ultimately. Check it out, that is why I mentioned bare feet.

I would like to have every card of every model to have at least 3 bare foot clips to make happy and to make me pay for it. Which should be the new norm for all upcoming clips.

Outfits are great on models but they are meant to be stripped away and most viewers would like to have them stripped away fully naked. I mean butt naked, bare foot naked and to see them wear nothing at all.

Sorry @john555

Your original post specifically mentions "bare foot clips" and "bare foot naked". Why would this now exclude a discussion on shoes? And the removal thereof?

...and now that I've regained my sanity, I'm adding Leona to my 'to do' list... :)

I'm a fan of burlesque too, that includes both partial and non-nude. It's about the performance, you know? ;)
Far too many girls forget about the 'tease and please' to be naked within a clip. Make the moment last...
Whatever happened to the 'accidentally' undone skirt drop, she realizes her bullet nipples are showing through a tight tee shirt, a white dress caught unawares in the upwards blast of a floor fan?
Is a little modesty dead? ;)

@john555
Yes i know, you are talking about end points or outcome of a performance..not the stripping process.
It has nothing to do with an act ending with the model wearing waders in her performance, for instance.

If you want an explanation of Totem's definition of 'Full Nudity', it was prescribed as a card/clip tag category a long time ago when the owners percieved a European Strip Club notion of 'Full Nudity' to include shoes and maybe other things.
This certainly does not apply in many other regions of the world and as far as online Adult services go in Europe now , it no longer applies there also. In fact in webchat today one pays tokens for shoes to be put on. It is seen as a 'fetish' and has a price.

So 'Full Nudity' is bound up in the early card tagging system and because so many cards have been produced / catalogued since then, its true that Totem's card coding system cannot be back tracked & reworked to something different without having to deal with overwhelming prohibitive labour costs, interuptions, & delays vetting & changing everything. Enough downside possibly to break the company.

if you want the entire explanation search 'Full Nudity' in the Forums and you will find a wealth of explanation. If Totem could do everything from scratch again, in hindsight, I'm sure they would do it differently. The ostensible Tag names remain purely because of a legacy coding difficulty as far as I know.

@Chiksans, not a card 'rating' system per se...more of a card/clip agreed 'eroticism levels' coding standard.
Shheeesh, no wonder peeps get ***** ;-/
Btw, imho we also should avoid calling customer card Comments ~'Ratings". Maybe better to refer to them as ' Reviews'

Hi all, I ***** to say this, but the topic has drifted far off from what I initially wanted to feed in everyone's mind.

The topic was created not just discuss shoes on/off, it is also about stockings, panties, bras etc and every other outfit the model wears to eventually come off when a card is rated as 'Full Nudity'.

It is deceiving when iStripper rates the card as ' Full Nudity' yet the model in the card doesn't unclad fully. It has to just say 'Nudity' or something else.

So is this all about the 'Totem card rating' system?

The words that Totem uses to define each of the 5 levels of eroticism are just that, words. They should in no way be taken that the model actually does what those words say.

Totem could just as easily have used the somewhat cruder level descriptions seen here

https://www.istripper.com/forum/thread/41678/1?post=614722

Once again, the description in the card give the level of eroticism, not actual aspects of the performance.

yes we understand - but you should also understand that the label "full nudity" used by Totem is not a description of the card. It is just a name used for a level of eroticness. This has been explained many times here. It is, in my opinion, a poorly chosen name because it does ***** some users.

will you finaly turn off that howling sound.... i tried everything to switch it off....

Hi all, I ***** to say this, but the topic has drifted far off from what I initially wanted to feed in everyone's mind.

The topic was created not just discuss shoes on/off, it is also about stockings, panties, bras etc and every other outfit the model wears to eventually come off when a card is rated as 'Full Nudity'.

It is deceiving when iStripper rates the card as ' Full Nudity' yet the model in the card doesn't unclad fully. It has to just say 'Nudity' or something else.

But this as drifted off to just one annoying thing about shoes on/off

It is annoying why the talk is all about shoes. Do you guys all understand????????? 😖😖

I've read an article yesterday with a description of some new smartphone with up to 512 GB, and one to come with 1 TB. I let you imagine the price of such a smartphone !

17th April

FG059 or ET - FractalGarden059.scn
A second musical instrument focussed demo scene to continue the above experiments.

This time an electric Guitar is used in a 15 frame cycling animation,
which runs on opaque frames to mask all previous lag 'ghostings' .
Of course this means you cannot run this transparently over any background.
The card ( 2.4 second micro-sampled ) for this was Natalia Starr - 'Staying the Night'.
The animation was all laboriously cobbled frame by frame, so I hope the beat achieved is
roughly right ;-). Strictly not for sharing outside this forum ..thanks a lot. zip size = 2.08 MB

https://scenes.virtuastripper.net/ET_FractalGarden59.zip

Note:
there's a correction to the positioning of the logo node for FG058 footer in this, so as always,
extract zip to..scenes/ and allow any folder merging & file over-write permissions if asked.

remixed mostly to 'Everthing I Love is ***** Me' ~ Abbey Scott and ' Brass in Pocket '~ The Pretenders

My phone only has 128 GB of storage.

Wow, that's a huge amount.

i've got 16GB and no way to add a card..
most new phones Do Not allow an external card anymore.

My first card was Jenna Sweet&Amandine Road Movie. That was on another computer and with another account. I was economist/teacher. iStripper (than VGHD) is expensive. With this card I had two models for the price of one!!!

In 2011 I came back and my first card on the new account was Jana Cova Country Walk.

Now I look back I can only say: it were great choices. I still like those models and shows very much!! Well done @zzmaskers👍.

My overall favorate card is Eva Sugar Spoil Me and that won't change; about impossible to get something better!!!

Funny Idea
If they really wanted to do this this they can't sell in the app stores due to store policy restrictions.
They would have to use a hosted web based app service in a browser, or terminal servicee/remote desktop model to host remote application for mobile platform.
That should satiate the mobile users that want to watch in the bathroom at work. LMAO!!!
My phone only has 128 GB of storage. My model collection is easily over 2 TB of data...
As mentioned will probably never come to mobile or tablet platform.
LOL

I didn't read this tutorial but if I choose paysafecard I can then select paypal in the stage after that, for some reason.

Thanks for the info buddy

I didn't read this tutorial but if I choose paysafecard I can then select paypal in the stage after that, for some reason.

^^ ❤️

Have a look on this thread http://www.istripper.com/forum/thread/41318/1?post=608811&soft_navigate=ExternDefaultBrowser

Thank you, I will try this later today

Have a look on this thread http://www.istripper.com/forum/thread/41318/1?post=608811

My very first card was Jenny McClain

I thinK it also depends on the shoes.

It would probably take Bonnie longer than an entire show just to get in and out out of those sandals 3 times (for 3 clips).😊

They look nice when they stay on and you can see much of her feet anyway as the sandals are so open.

Personally, unless the shoes come off easily they should stay on for standing and pole clips. It really interrupts the performance when a girl has to bend down or sit down and then struggle with an awkward fastening on a shoe. This is not always obvious (or as obvious) on table clips and I see no reason why shoes can't be removed in table clips if the model wants to.

Knee length or thigh length boots should never be removed (personal preference/fetish) unless you are Merry Pie who manages to strip out of knee length boots whilst in the splits - possibly one of the most awesome things I've seen on iStripper.

Hello everybody. What happened to the option to pay with PayPal?

Leona Mia

Leona Mia

For me the slot machine is working fine.
I've version 1.2.226 under Win10 64bits 1809.

Leona Mia in student outfit, and my words go away 💖💖💖

@Vardoth
The bonus videos are completely different from the full shows, and not what some people want here.

Another new favorite Mina K because her dances go along with alot of game music and trance music i listen to :D of course she is great to look at as well 😍 still hasn't topped Irene but i like her for different reasons :)

In other words, what i've seen is when you win 10 credits, this mean the 2 credit for spin is not taken, and it add 8 credits. Then you win 10 credit.

I wanted to ask if it's safe to play the game now, as i experienced some unexpected behaviors last friday with the error server message.

Thx and keep up the good work

I like feet, but really, I dont think it matters that much whether models wear shoes or not.
In fact, I love a card in which the models keep their sexy stockings on all the time or stripy knee high socks!
What I think is more important than shoes or no shoes, is more oil, more water, more cream, more milk etc!

For me, the definition of " real or unreal " full nudity is meaningless, because female body seems much more noticeable than bare feet. After all, members have various preferences which result in purchasing behavior. Therefore, variety becomes a necessary strategy to fulfill most requirements.

It's really simple.... if you "need" the girls on your mobile, use your mobile browser and just watch their bonus videos on istripper.com. no storage problems, no app store censorship.

Maria Marino

Nice @Signara good for you to join us here.
Here is Maria Marino one boob out.

Well let me tell you who brought me here, first. And that was Melisa. But my frist card was Laetitia.

On this subject.............

I want the model to feel comfortable in her performance, so I am OK with either shoes on or off. Though I prefer shoes on in pole clips, again as long as the model is comfortable..........

I will buy four of them.