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pantalone
已加入 在 Nov 2010

224 发布
August 5, 2021
i'm pretty sure if Totem would still listen to the old farts their Business wouldn't exist any more.

Speaking as someone in the prime of life, I resent the suggestion that I must be either an onanist or an old fart! We have no idea if younger members are porn lovers or beauty junkies. We have no idea whether they spend more or will spend for longer than old farts - there are plenty of industries that rely on the oldies to keep them going. All we know is that there is a vocal minority who pile in on the forum, whenever somebody bemoans the high proportion of xxx cards or the length of the SE clips.

Fortunately Totem can track our spend profiles and react accordingly. There's no point in trying to second-guess their marketing strategy.
Stanston
已加入 在 Aug 2018

1013 发布
August 5, 2021 (edited)
Greetings @pantalone 😉
All we know is that there is a vocal minority who pile in on the forum
If i would have listened to this vocal minority,
https://www.istripper.com/forum/thread/46166/2#post691057
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i'm pretty my Artwork would be not the same as it is today.
There's no point in trying to second-guess their marketing strategy.
My strategy is to enjoy Beautiful Girls, and iStripper is giving me the opportunity for that,
and not only for myself in personal.

The Team including ❤️ @celine ❤️ is providing us a great Product,
and my Opinion about that hasn't changed so far until today.
https://www.istripper.com/forum/thread/46725/1#post696106
关于iStripper的一切 / Happy new year!
Thanks for being our valuable customers 😍 Thanks for being our valuable Entertainment Provider ❤️
And i'm pretty sure it will not change in the Future as well.

And as only one example, if i'm looking back on all these great Costumes so far,
possible through this vocal minority,
https://www.istripper.com/forum/thread/45979/1
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i guess another vocal minority would pile on the Forum to crave for better Outfits.

So i still think no one needs to be worry about anything, the Team is and was
doing a great Job with their Product so far.

And maybe ... just maybe they are doing what they can't. https://youtu.be/jG7dSXcfVqE

And the rest is History 😎
Captain15
已加入 在 May 2015

26 发布
August 5, 2021 (edited)
But i'm pretty sure if Totem would still listen to the old farts their Business wouldn't exist any more.
Or at leats it would become less Successful.

Old farts? What are you talking about? XXX cards started outnumbering the dancing shows, like what 6 months ago? And are these some kind of creative or revolutionary changes or are they just conformity? And it's also eliminating options, not adding them. And to counter your example, there are also plenty of other examples of the inverse. Change just for the sake of change has also bit many companies in the ass and caused them to lose money. It could very well happen to Totem in the long run. If they displease their long-term customers and whales and only go after the "young and dumb" they might only receive short-term success because these new customers might not buy that many shows. Or they might realize that there are dozens of places that they can see porn stars masturbating for free. Maybe another company capitalizes on the lacking soft-core market and profits off of Totem's conformity changes.

Of course this is only theory because we don't know Totem's finances, and also because not enough time has passed yet. But getting rid of the dancing shows sounds like an awful, awful idea. Only getting porn stars sounds like an awful, awful idea. But, hey, who knows, maybe I'm wrong and Totem has long-term success getting rid of or drastically reducing their dancing shows. I can't believe there are some people defending less options as good change.
HansSachs
已加入 在 Mar 2016

989 发布
August 7, 2021
now that they are hardly ever released.
I can not believe I read this... truth is in 2021 XXX shows have been slightly increased.
But in september 2020, instead, only one XXX show has been published - and in several other months of 2020 there has been very very few - but at that time complaints from XXX lovers, if even present, have been far milder than what we have to see from "plain" fans every time there is even a minimal increase of XXX shows' number.
HansSachs
已加入 在 Mar 2016

989 发布
August 7, 2021 (edited)
It could very well happen to Totem in the long run. If they displease their long-term customers and whales and only go after the "young and dumb" they might only receive short-term success because these new customers might not buy that many shows.
Same argument has repeatdedly been brought on in the past by people ***** SECs (and for some months I said it too) --- now, not only SECs are still here, but their number continues to be increased... it's evident they have been just increasing their earnings and that Totem's marketing strategy was not so a crazy one at the end...
It's quite probable they think now that the few collectors they'll lose from the slight increase of XXX will more than compensated by sales of same card to the new users - and this is quite probable to be working.
Sexy3DBoy
已加入 在 Jun 2011

480 发布
August 7, 2021
Perso, je ne sais pas si dernièrement il y a eu trop de cartes XXX produites, tout ce que je sais c'est que les shows non-XXX sont de moins en moins captivants. Ce ne sont pas des filles de scène et encore moins des danseuses.

Personally, I don't know if there have been too many XXX cards produced lately, all I know is that the non-XXX shows are less and less exciting. They're not stage girls, let alone dancers.
TheEmu
已加入 在 Jul 2012

3309 发布
August 7, 2021
all I know is that the non-XXX shows are less and less exciting.

You know no such thing. Please do not assume that your preferences are universal. You may find them less exciting but some of us find the XXX shows less and less exciting.
Philours
已加入 在 Feb 2019

1659 发布
August 7, 2021
Personally,
Avis personnel @TheEmu
Ah, si nous pouvions tous avoir la vérité ! Quel enchantement régnerait sur notre monde 😀😀
Ce fil sera toujours un affrontement entre ceux qui , comme vous préfèrent les shows plus classiques de strip uniquement et ceux qui aiment une touche plus hard!
Cela me parait être sans fin 😭
[quote] Personally, [/ quote]
Personal opinion @TheEmu
Ah, if we could all have the truth! What enchantment would reign over our world 😀😀
This thread will always be a clash between those who, like you, prefer the more classic strip shows only and those who like a harder touch!
It seems to me to be endless 😭
TheEmu
已加入 在 Jul 2012

3309 发布
August 7, 2021
Personal opinion @TheEmu

OK, but in the English translation the part that I quoted came through as an absolute assertion rather than an opinion (the "personaly" at the start of the sentance only applied to the first part of that sentance - maybe its scope was larger in the original French).
Philours
已加入 在 Feb 2019

1659 发布
August 7, 2021
@TheEmu, je peux comprendre, mais je pense que la portée du "perso" s'appliquait au poste entier. Rien de grave, juste des opinions différentes 😊
Il faudrait la réponse de l'auteur pour en être certain 😊
@TheEmu, I can understand, but I think the scope of "perso" applied to the entire post. Nothing serious, just different opinions 😊
It would take the author's response to be sure 😊
TsarDaddy
已加入 在 Dec 2020

115 发布
August 8, 2021
Non-XXX shows less exciting?? I'm not yet in the old fart territory but there are plenty of non-XXX shows where the models performance is even more erousing then that of an XXX show.
stefnev1
主持人
已加入 在 Jul 2008

4603 发布
August 8, 2021
@Philours
It seems to me to be endless
Totally agree, this is a never ending story about the tastes of everyone. Writing more on this leads to a dead end.

Entièrement d'accord, c'est une histoire sans fin sur les goûts de chacun. Ecrire davantage là-dessus conduit à une impasse.
Captain15
已加入 在 May 2015

26 发布
August 8, 2021
now that they are hardly ever released.I can not believe I read this... truth is in 2021 XXX shows have been slightly increased.
But in september 2020, instead, only one XXX show has been published - and in several other months of 2020 there has been very very few - but at that time complaints from XXX lovers, if even present, have been far milder than what we have to see from "plain" fans every time there is even a minimal increase of XXX shows' number.

Oh, can't believe you read that, huh? It was just unbelievable! So because of September 2020, the recent trends of 80-90% XXX shows can't be mentioned or you won't believe it. It's unbelievable! I know we all have different tastes but I'm surprised that there are people here that don't like the dancing shows at all and want them to go away. I like how you call the dancing shows "plain", too. Such edgelords that need dildos up the girls pussies or they're just "plain".

But it's cool, we have different opinions, but I also have to continue my response to jackass comments like Stanston talking about old farts liking the dancing shows and resisting the revolutionary change of... less or no dancing shows. Like seeing gorgeous women stripping and dancing nude is old fashioned. I'm not an old fart but I still take offense to that because I see what he is doing, he's trying to invalidate other's opinions with slander and a dumb anecdotal point.

I really like the product, it is unique, and they get some extremely hot girls to do this. If this turns into a hardcore-only site then they might get only porn stars. We might not get girls like Avery anymore. That doesn't sound like great change to me. Call me an old fart then, I don't care. My two cents.
HansSachs
已加入 在 Mar 2016

989 发布
August 9, 2021 (edited)
1) I like dancing shows too and would never want them to go away. I don't am happy, though, when I see people asking other conten - that I also like - to be removed.
2) The 2021 balance of plain and XXX cards is 50% - 50% (your "80% of XXX" is simply fake news) - so it's a good balance. No one is asking or wanting plain cards to disappear - no members, and not Totem for sure.
3) An "old style" iStripper/VG without XXX content is also more a legend than a truth.
Many "good old" plain cards did show masturbation or at least rubbing, even if there was not a XXX clip category at the time. And after such categorisation had been introduced... there were several such "spicier" plain cards also. Naomi Nevena's 1634 "Beach Tease" plain card (released in 2014), for exemple, has not less than six XXX clips!
It has also to be said that meanwhile, at same time, almost all XXX cards had almost only table/masturbation clips - now they have 3 or 4 such XXX clips only and contain many standing and pole clips too.
So, even if the global amount of XXX cards released has been recently increased, the amount of XXX content (clips) currently produced is quite probably still lesser than one of a few years ago (since every XXX card has now less XXX clips than once; and also, in recent times no more plain card contains XXX cilps - while once, more than several ones did have some such clip). Trusted and respected Mods as @Wyldanimal could probably confirm this.
4) For the sake of completeness, I love Avery too and own all her cards.
Captain15
已加入 在 May 2015

26 发布
August 9, 2021
@HansSachs

Ok well there is some stuff we can agree on. I don't want the XXX cards to go away either, I just think there have been too many lately. On a side note, a couple years ago they got a bunch of american porn stars that did nothing but dancing shows. Ironically, except for a few exceptions (Uma Jolie is smoking hot in my opinion), I would have been ok with most of those girls doing mostly XXX shows.

And it is not 50%-50% for dancing and XXX shows this year. XXX cards are significantly more, especially the last few months. 80%-90% XXX was an exageration, but it's not that far off if you start counting from April.

I also have noticed that there aren't any more XXX clips in the dancing shows and I am ok with that. To be fair, rubbing themselves doesn't seem very hardcore to me, but I also wasn't a fan of it because they were mostly blocking the good views with their hand.

I apologize if I seemed abrasive earlier, you seem reasonable. Let's agree to disagree.

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