1. I feel really bad for collectors. This promotion does provide a chance at credits but trading credits for credits with a guarentee to lose credits and still not getting the special edition card is a bad move for totem.

2. I do not feel bad for anybody else who played the game. You went in willingly with the goal of getting something for nothing, getting credits or free cards or a free special edition card, and you lost or won. That is gambling.

@celine

Here is a solution:

The next promotion should work "kind of" like ebay. Have a "buy it now price" of 100 credits that starts on day 1 of the promotion. Also provide a scratch card game that gives a percent chance of winning the card. Every time a person wins the special event card in the scratch game the "buy it now" price increases by 1%. This means that collectors need to make a quick decision to buy at a "low" price :), but the gamblers can still scratch to win free credits or the special event card. This will also give a rough estimate of how easy it is to win the special event card for the astute which might drive more people to gamble. Then on the final day all people who received the special event card will be put into a lottery to win the final price of the buy it now card in credits. So if the buy it now price is 1000 credits all partakers will have a chance to make that back. But just one. THe current game is really disrespectful to full collection buyers and a little ***** of gamblers. It certainly makes totem appear less savory in the moral category. Something that is surprisengly important when it comes to buying porn. Many people feel vulnerable when paying for porn. What do I do if the product doesn't work? What do I do if they take my money? Totem has been one of the most upstanding companies I have ever done business with...this particular promotion doesn't support that opinion.

any tips how to make sure that will not losse the six shows I have after a reinstal of iStripper or some other "accident"??
I had problems before that made shows disappear I really did not want to loose...

For whatever it is worth, I've been a customer from your beginning. I do NOT like not being able to purchase the cards, and I do not approve of the gambling requirement. Respectfully, you need to reconsider how you're making these bonus cards available for good, long-term customers, who are not impressed with your approach.

@celine

it means you have 100 chances to win a joker card... and to exchange your joker card for Malena's special event one :)

No, it doesn't. The chance (at least how it's worded) is 100/(total number of tickets) * 50. Marginal.

Can this gambling app share with users odds of wining special event card? Or you are going to go EA style and just let us guess?
I already accepted the fact that my collection will be short of 4 cards (I'm done with gambling in here), but perhaps it will help others gave up on it.

Oh wait, that's the opposite of what you want people to do... Never mind me asking. Keep repeating half-truths and instruct people how to waste more money on gambling.

And there I was, thinking this is erotic app. Silly me. My main problem is that as one of collectors already said: my promise to give up on this product is not going to change anybodys mind. First of all: I probably won't because of awesome girls featured here. And more importantly: I'm not good asset, I was already milked enough. And money >>> happy customer.

Kind if sad...she has some very hard stuff on the internet that has disemminated widely. Strange that she would remove the most softcore content that is hidden behind software and payment. I think it would be worth it to totem to pay her a royalty to change her name. The chances that a person has downloaded the software, bought her cards, and can tie the dancer to her in public seems small...especially if the name doesn't connect to any other content online.

and i was hoping this lovely lady would make a Take2 😍

OMG, Angelika Grays "After Midnight"!
As I said in comments on this card, this is the new Gold Standard, the best iStripper card ever!

👍👍👍

The finest combination of beauty, grace, dancing, pole skills, and performance in one card.

👍👍👍

OMG, Angelika Grays "After Midnight"!

As I said in comments on this card, this is the new Gold Standard, the best iStripper card ever!

The pictures, as beautiful as they are, cannot do this girl justice, as she has to be seen in movement.

The finest combination of beauty, grace, dancing, pole skills, and performance in one card.

I can't wait to see what she does in her other four cards (her HollyBoobs cosplay was 1960's perfection)!😍

congratulations @POPEYED !!👍

@celine

Thanks for the information so that members can ensure that they have everything downloaded and/or backed up.

However, in the future, would it be possible to give members more notice in case they cannot access their computer through being on holiday etc.

@dar
You’ve been doing a lot of coming behind others with zero facts just to throw turds at Totem for a while now. It has been noted. Not by me alone either.

See, im sure no one cares, im just one member, and my loss to totem will be exactly nothing really, im just one person. Bit i hionestly feel i should just uinstall thios software again, and forget about it. I did exactly that over a period of 2 years. when i started too experince quality of life degredation due toi my obsessive behavour, got too spend more and more too have them medels, all of them. You have to either have an addiction, or know someone whos facing an addiction to understand, to get it, too others im just a stupoid idiot who has no common sence.. But addictive behavour dont work that way. One very inconsiderate and rude member decided to call me these things, while im not a vendictive person i still dotn feel that right, kicking someone when they are down out of pure ignorance.

After a break, gaining perspective and help from Gambling support groups, and a handle on my problem, i came back, with money, lots of it, i was willing, and comfortable to spend catching up on collection, after which i quite successfuly maintained a subcription of sorts, an allowance of 30usd every two weeks, too pay for any upcoming cards. That means nothign to anyone im sure, but too me it was a triumph over my very real problems. Then totem months and months later started with the slot machines, that was a test, fine i wont ven look at any of the "shopping" or "news" tabs over the weekend. I am fine with that, honesly dodnt even open the client very often, but now these gamblking tabs are there ALL the time, they dont go away. And the only way to get this new card is by gambling. as i said, i should just unistall the software, that i enjoy very much, and have doen so very good at controlling my urges.. buit now i feel i am in danger again

I am, sure people with think im just a stupid idiot with no commonsence. but thats just not how addictiove personality disorders work. Its really not. and i thank everyone who does not make value judgments, or personal attcks against me over this.

I wont even bring this up again. last i will say

but they couldn't even figure out a proper model release!

Totem does not research anything as far as I can tell.

Is it legal ? .. I don't know, I seriously doubt any member here knows, and I'm pretty sure Totem doesn't know and probably wont care until lawyers or other authorities are involved.

Seriously??? ALL of your above statements are total speculation based on NOTHING!!! Scare-mongering yet again.
I feel so sad when I read statements like these here.

Get your FREAKING FACTS straight first. ALL of you! GGGRRRRR!!!

I won a card that I have already deleted!? anyone can help?

Totem did all the proper research to make sure everything is on the up & up.

LOL! I love IS and support Totem but they couldn't even figure out a proper model release! Not good when you are in the porn biz.

Totem does not research anything as far as I can tell. This is a cash grab the same as a video poker machine and feeds off the same mindset; winners happily tell you about their big win because they have already forgotten their countless losses.

Is it legal ? .. I don't know, I seriously doubt any member here knows, and I'm pretty sure Totem doesn't know and probably wont care until lawyers or other authorities are involved. Laws vary by countries and community it may be legal in some and illegal in others. Laws are general in place to protect the weak but honestly I'm not sure those protections are needed here. I know that in the gaming biz 'loot boxes' are under pressure but on IS this seems more like the 'pay to win' games.

BTW I'm referring to the gambling (scratch/ lottery, slots, etc); I have no clue what the Joker thing is but assume its related to the gambling. And while I do play video games I don't play the "pay to win" games nor do I bother with loot boxes much.

You’re all talking to a brick wall when trying to say the games are illegal.

Illegal, no, not currently. Morality however is another matter

im, sure totem did its reaseach. crossed all T's and dotted all the i's,

I'm sure they did.

doesnt mean its not a crappy way to make money.

I tend to agree. ;)

Even Edward Thatch must have been a polite, young man in his youth...

im, sure totem did its reaseach. crossed all T's and dotted all the i's, doesnt mean its not a crappy way to make money.

and as someone with self confessed gambling addiction issues, it sure FEELS exploitative. scratch cards where NOT a thing only a 2 years ago, then they were introduced each weedend only, and they have been running all week long since.

Totem are definately testing the waters on this lucrative new way to sell cards, and its demonstarably grown in scope over a very short time.

Tell me im wrong, tell me scrtach cards and slot mashines have ALWAYS vbeen in VG and istripper, and tell me that have not become a weekly long thing, tell me im wrong!

I dont ***** get why some people have chosen to attack me, like is some kind of vendetta? belittling me, in sulting me, calling me dumb, Wioth thois kind of paywall holding new cards hiostage, discluding many members from obtaining them being so obvious, yet speaking out and wanting this too stop only benefits EVERYONE allowing a clear pathway to obtaining vewry single new card released. why attck me over wanting that? its certainly doesnt hinder anyone too have fair access too the entirety of the software we are eager too support!

GTA's casino DLC got caught up in this too. While you could buy the DLC anywhere in the world, you couldn't legally play it in various countries. :)

It depends if it's real money or not. A closed loop system has no way of buying into, or adding into, the monetary system (such as computer game simulations). As soon as you add in a loot box system, technically you add a real world monetary system into the mix and this means that you have to adhere to trading standards.

It's the middle of a current giant legal battle about what is gambling and what is not... what should and should not be available online and where... and what is and is not covered by local and international law. Gaming law (computer gaming law) is a small corner of this and is changing dynamically with the rise of online gaming. Loot boxes are the most obvious part of this and are now being considered as in-play gambling in certain parts of the world.

While not yet illegal... definitely fringe. :)

thanks for all the fish 😶 oh i get it 😂

Totem did all the proper research to make sure everything is on the up & up. They would not put everything at risk as far as legality is concerned with their marketing strategies.

You’re all talking to a brick wall when trying to say the games are illegal.

With regard to the difference between special occassion and special event cards @Yuufa said

both are generally nicely themed cards, with unique costuming. the only diffence is how they are distrubuted

Though this is true for the special occassion cards it is not true of most special event cards. The attached images are all from special event cards and show no particularly unique costuming features. Unfortunately there is no simple feature of either the app or the website that allows me to easily find all of the special event cards but from memory there are only one or two for which the costume is in any way special (the only one I can think of is a santa outfit for an advent calendar special event)

There is a significant difference between the special event cards and the special occassion cards - the special event cards are, in themselves, far less "special" than the special occassion cards (which is the opposite of what one would expect from the difficulties in obtaining them)

Congratulations, POPEYED.

& weir is the fun in that..you have 350 in cards of 4274 = 3924 cards of the computer to play with or 2.54841997961264e-4 their abouts. sorry about the math. & th@ not with the added 10's,50's,100's thrown. not to mention the S & X's. buttt th@ enough for now

I'm sorry I don't understand what you are trying to say. Please use clear english, thanks.

I just hit exactly 4k does that count too? 😎

Congrats!!

Not directly money gambling, but there is a real world monetairy cost involved. and that is incontrovertable.

You cannot apply game law here because the virtual currency used is not a closed loop system. If you can buy into the virtual currency using real world currency it is treated as a market trading standard.

Here, you play with a fictional currency, and you can not convert winnings in real currency. So, it's not a money gambling. Period.

But you have to buy the virtual currency with actual money so it is still covered by the same laws.

I dont claim to be super smaret, and im unclear what :game law: you are refering too, but you seem to have make opposing points here.

Im probably missunderstanding you

No - the "special occasion" cards are very different from the "special event" cards.

both are generally nicely themed cards, with unique costuming. the only diffence is how they are distrubuted

@gkar
Celine mentioned the end of the week in her original post. Friday, I suppose.

Hopefully it will be like the Nikky Case situation. After ***** O Fee's removal, her cards can still be re-downloaded if they were purchased before.

I just spent about 100 credits on the scratch card game, didn't win anything and didn't get any enjoyment out of playing it. It's the type of mindless cash sink that should be made illegal.

All limited supply is being artificially created to sell products and services, which legally speaking is pretty underhand as it is creating a false market.

You may not like it, I certainly do not like it, but it is a very common practice and has been for at least couple of hundred years in the art print and book printing business.

there are many "special occasion cards", (50 something) which is what these special event cards were originally.

No - the "special occasion" cards are very different from the "special event" cards.

whats with the price change now its going to cost 5 dollars to get one of the new girls use to get alot more credits for the money, now not so much.

Not directly money gambling, but there is a real world monetairy cost involved. and that is incontrovertable.

You cannot apply game law here because the virtual currency used is not a closed loop system. If you can buy into the virtual currency using real world currency it is treated as a market trading standard.

Thanks for the information. I have just bought the one card, which I missed. ***** O Fee was one of my favorits of 2017.

Here, you play with a fictional currency, and you can not convert winnings in real currency. So, it's not a money gambling. Period.

But you have to buy the virtual currency with actual money so it is still covered by the same laws.

There are indeed limited editions on digital content - that is pretty much what people here have been ***** about. It may be that the limit is artificially imposed in the digital case but that is also true for very many limited edition physical objects, think of limited edition commemorative coins and plates.

All limited supply is being artificially created to sell products and services, which legally speaking is pretty underhand as it is creating a false market. While not currently against the law, it is clearly creating problems with consumers (just look at the forums!) and is probably not the best policy or practice to follow.

https://ec.europa.eu/growth/sectors/gambling_en

Legalese; my head *****. :)

Here, you play with a fictional currency, and you can not convert winnings in real currency. So, it's not a money gambling. Period.

how i love semantics

But true, it just makes it all the more disengenous, hiding the true cost it all, behind a fictional currency, which is infact bought with real money.

Not directly money gambling, but there is a real world monetairy cost involved. and that is incontrovertable.

as i said before, BEcuase there is no real world cashout, these gambling mechanisms, have thus far evaded the laws of gambling authorities.

but the looks like a duck, quaks like a duck, walks like a duck. is alil over played

popularity of a thing doesnt make it any less true

heres another,

• if the shoe fits*

i would havem but i dislike being called dumb over somthing i struggle to control. my addiction.

dismissed like its nothing!

Looks like the two of you need to step back for a moment and settle down

again. you miss the point, at this stage you refuse to understand

i preach nothing. do show me where i preached or even talked about ODDS. and again you clearly demonstarte the ignorance of what i am saying.

But you like argue, i refuse too. I ***** well know its not a good thing for me, if you underestand the nature of addictions you would have a little more compassion understanding

also im clearly not the only one having an issue with the way special event cards are being presented

& i'm not dumb enought ta do it again

it has nothign to do with intellect. or being "dumb". thansk for the implication that i am dumb enough to do so, should the moderatorts l;ook at you for your personal ***** and character judgments?

i would retort with s snaky low class quip like "get it, got it, good" too. but im above that, do you even know where that saying even come from?

you however wish to make some one else's problem are problem it's not,

there are many "special occasion cards", (50 something) which is what these special event cards were originally. see my actual post "special occasions" which are unique costumnes and themes which cards have, much like these new gable to get :special events" , and the picture above

you however wish to make some one else's problem are problem it's not,

i am not, im merely pointing out that this is a problem i have, am i not allowed to talk about a problem i clearly have with this ? well sorry!

I have to agree with several of the replies to this topic - I don't like your gambling games. The ONLY reason I would play is to get a Joker card to get a special event card. Without knowing the odds of your gambling game, I'm not going to play. Especially since I think that most of the "prizes" I could get is a card I wouldn't buy with my credits. I won't buy a card, and yet you want me to gamble to receive one of those cards?

Here, you play with a fictional currency, and you can not convert winnings in real currency. So, it's not a money gambling. Period.

Will the card animations remain on the database so we can re-download them if necessary ?

what a p;ity, one of my favourties thans for the heads up Celine!

***** O Fee has asked us to remove her content from our catalog.
We believe in model's rights to move on with their life and we accepted her request.

Her shows will be removed from our store at the end of the week.

Those of you who have purchased her shows will of course keep them in their collection.

Thank you.

theirs places for ppl with addication problems. GA, AA,, AT & a few other places. hell AAA. or just say No, not today. this program & Porn is addicitive so why????

Or Totem can be respectful too pople that support them every time a new card comes out that they (myself) incl;uded will eargly buy, instead of promoting crtads as "rare" and "special" and hiding them behind mechanics

This is a fairly new addition to totem. this gamblingf stuff, never had it years ago, then you would just be able to buy "special occasion cards", thers like 40 of them. But gambling is here, and it works, and it brings in lots and lost of money from p[eople like ME.

Even if most peopel are like you and can say NO, and simply not do it, totem only need a small % of peopel to spend massiovly over the value of the individual card to make it profitable..

And please dont preach AA and AAA and what like too me, i tried to quit this addiction, for 2 years i was away. its never as :"easy" as you like to pretend

you ask so why? better minds than mine, and yours dont really know the WHY people like myself take part in what is obvously bad for them, but that is addiction. and even though i said i will not spend any more on totem, i played the damn thing 20 more times today!

b) Gamble on Istripper is not real gamble, also, because it's only about credits. Moreover, it's not possible at all to convert credits winnings back in real currencies. So, it's not real gamble.

The video games industry has been clinging to that legal loophole for years now., as corporations continue to monetise the crap out of games woth "surprise mechanics".. The only esacpe rule and mandate from the gambling legal bodys due too that technicality

The UK are looking into this farse right now. I hope other countrys foillow suit.

haha people compairing gambling from these scratch card on this site too kinder surprise eggs and the like...

EA went that way, too in parlement. lets see how that works out for them

If it looks like gambling, acts like gambling, costs money like gambling it is gambling

cannot agree with @pumpude at all

Clearly he has never heard of gam,bling addictyion, and its a very real problem. I just not as easy as saying "dont do it"

😜👌 (69lbs!) th@'s a lot of fish to eat at one time

Obviously the joke went way over your head...again 😆😆😆