I don't have a problem with Discord, but I haven't found the discussions on there to be compelling enough to attract me to check it frequently.

I guess whatever happens the discussions can continue on here, I think many on Discord are too busy playing their online games. Apparently iStripper server now has over 2000 members, but only 112 have ever posted a single message. I've been using both, so having double the fun - I'll probably get in trouble for having too much fun. 😀
Perhaps they will send a girl round with a whip, thigh high boots and well you know. 😆

Thanks @Stanston for the regular zip file of Carwash. 😎👍

Can you get the Nici Yoga room one from @Carstrip and regular zip file? I don't know him so afraid to ask.

Anyways, glass clips are pretty damn awesome! 😀😎👍

I don't have a problem with Discord, but I haven't found the discussions on there to be compelling enough to attract me to check it frequently.

For my part, when I buy a show, I have the feeling that it is part of my money that I am using. Not you?

Not at all. My feeling is that I did already spend my money once and for all earlier, when I did buy the credits.

Juste une vision différente des choses. Les termes et conditions de totem sont juridiques pour leur sécurité mais rien d'autre.

Alors pourquoi donnes-tu ton avis?

Because it's not my opinion, it's what company explicitely states and you (would) have to fully agree to in order to use the software.
Moreover, basically it's you two who are making a discussion contesting T&Cs you did sign and agree to, not me...

That is their cost, not their value.

Oui leur coût c'est bien cela. On est dans un fil sur la probabilité de gagner
On parle bien du coût
Yes, their cost is that. We are in a thread on the probability of winning [/ b]
We are talking about the cost
Je connais le cout de ma collection iStripper mais sa valeur???
I know the cost of my iStripper collection but its value ???

So, theoretically there could not even be a discussion about such a matter.

Alors pourquoi donnes-tu ton avis? Reste en dehors de la discussion.

That is their cost, not their value.

Et l'ami! je te dis gentillement mais redescends sur terre!

That is their cost, not their value.

People who ***** the two concepts often come to wrong conclusions.

(credits have no monetary value) a

Et ça là haut c'est quoi?

Je peux te dire que c'est tout sauf du virtuel!

😆😆😆😆

Vous ne payez pas Totem quand vous obtenez un spectacle. Pensez-y bien. Vous ne payez vraiment Totem que lorsque vous obtenez des crédits. Quoi que vous fassiez avec de tels crédits (acquisition de cartes ou jeux), Totem n’obtient absolument RIEN.

Pour ma part quand j'achète un spectacle, j'ai le sentiment que c'est une partie de mon argent que j'utilise. Pas vous?
Le reste n'est que rhétorique. Vous feriez un bon avocat si cette discussion devrait exister 😉
Remarque/ les haricots sont censés représenter une valeur nulle qui ne s'achètent pas. Une monnaie de singe si vous préférez, mais ceci est une autre histoire 😊
Juste une vision différente des choses. Les termes et conditions de totem sont juridiques pour leur sécurité mais rien d'autre.

For my part, when I buy a show, I have the feeling that it is part of my money that I am using. Not you?
The rest is just rhetoric. You would make a good lawyer if this discussion should exist 😉
Note / beans are supposed to be zero value which cannot be bought. A monkey coin if you prefer, but that's another story 😊
Just a different take on things. Totem terms and conditions are legal for their safety but nothing else.

Totem accepts this transaction for the purchase of his shows, of course.

Not at all. What transaction for getting a show? You don't pay Totem when you get a show. Think at it well. You really pay Totem only when you get a pack of credits. Whatever then you do with such credits (card acquisition or games), Totem gets then absolutely NOTHING. It's totally fictional, monetarily speaking.
When you get a card there is NOT any transaction.

Credits are bought with your money, never forget this

Ok. And so? Beans also are bought with your money - but that's doesn't mean them to be money.

Anyway, exactly same things I say (credits have no monetary value) are explicitly stated by Terms and Conditions which you have to agree and sign to, in order both to join and to make use of iStripper software.
So, theoretically there could not even be a discussion about such a matter.

Mais de toute façon c'est bien de votre argent dont il est question!
Les crédits s'achètent avec votre argent, n'oubliez jamais cela 😉

Exactement et il n'y a rien de virtuel au niveau de la monnaie, c'est le compte en banque qui se vide et rien d'autre. La différence entre iStripper et un casino c'est que dans ce dernier il y a un service de sécurité.
😆

personne n’accepterait jamais un paiement, un chèque ou un transfert en haricots ni en crédits).

Totem accepte cette transaction pour l'achat de ses spectacles, bien sûr.
Le reste n'est que discussion d'hommes de loi.
Mais de toute façon c'est bien de votre argent dont il est question!
Les crédits s'achètent avec votre argent, n'oubliez jamais cela 😉

[quote] no one would ever accept a payment, check, or transfer in beans or credits). [/ quote]
Totem accepts this transaction for the purchase of his shows, of course.
The rest is just a discussion of lawyers.
But anyway it's your money that is at stake!
Credits are bought with your money, never forget this 😉

Oui, oui, oui la liste des favoris peut s'allonger au fil du temps, bien sûr 😛 Mais par fidélité : personne ne sortira de ma liste! 😆😆💚
Yes, yes, yes, the favorites list can grow over time, of course 😛 But out of loyalty: no one will leave my list! 😆😆💚

Yes some cannot choose just one favourite model, some choose a few they really adore, for many it varies over time as new models appear, and others say they cannot choose, they like them all. For me I like many of them very much, but have completely fallen for Gloria even though it is now some years since she appeared here. Melena Maria Rya is certainly very high in my list too and it is nice she has so many shows over six years. Lots to look forward to for newcomers. 👍 In fact lots to look forward to for all of us - Got so many shows, not watched so many of them and a new one everyday. 😉

Ya pas à dire c'est la danse des canards et ça m'a l'air plutôt boiteux!
😆

@Stanston yes good idea - putting the files in another compression format. Thanks.

And those wonderful boobs are indeed Gloria's! Her Glorious Gloria show ❤️

Si demain je peux jouer chez iStripper avec des haricots, à ce moment là ce ne sera plus un jeu d'argent.

It's already like so (it's a gamble, but not a money gamble) now with credits.
Credits just are same of beans - you can of course buy beans (and also credits) using money, but they are no money since they have no monetary value (you can not change them back in actual money, nor anyone ever would accept a payment, a check or a transfer in beans nor in credits).

I guess I can't use it computer won't recognize 7z files but no big deal.

Wait some minutes, and i think @Carstrip wouldn't mind that at all so please be patient.

Now it's a regular .zip File please let me know if it works now for you.

https://drive.google.com/uc?export=download&id=1tC1EZIG9ZkelNIIUDKcx-s_jyp15wJoK

I agree with @HansSachs on this issue.

Although "common sense" tells us that the same rules should apply to games played in a cassino and to the iStripper games this is a false argument because what is important are the laws and how lawyers interpret them.

When we signed up for iStripper we agreed to a clause in the terms and conditions that stated that we agreed that the credits had no monetary value. Whether this is enough to explain why iStripper is not required to quote odds is not something I have any knowledge of, but it certainly changes matters. The important logic to apply is that used by lawyers not that of similarity with something else.

The argument "if it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck then it must be a duck" is not one that is often relevant as far as the legal system is concerned, and it is what is legally required that is the most important consideration.

@Stanston I saw that thank you for the help and the answer to the "boob" question :) I guess I can't use it computer won't recognize 7z files but no big deal. Apparently I saw that link last year and tried it already got a few of the member created scenes but just can't do certain ones including that one so I forgot about it.

Quand je tape sur google "définition légale du jeu d'argent"

=> "Les jeux sont d'argent et de hasard lorsqu'ils reposent : ... Ainsi, l'article 2 de la loi 2010-476 prévoit « Est un jeu de hasard un jeu payant où le hasard prédomine sur l'habileté et les combinaisons de l'intelligence pour l'obtention du gain »"

Si demain je peux jouer au casino avec des petits pois, à ce moment là ce ne sera plus un jeu d'argent.

Si demain je peux jouer chez iStripper avec des haricots, à ce moment là ce ne sera plus un jeu d'argent.

Les conséquences individuelles avec ces "jeux d'argent", ne se situent pas au niveau des gains quelle qu'en soit leur nature mais bien au niveau des dépenses individuelles d'argent et rien d'autre.
Pour rappel: Le thème de ce fil tourne autour des chances de gagner (Pyrrhon-d'Elis) face aux dépenses (des crédits et pas des haricots).

@jcclown781

whoever designed that one well done..
Anyway just had to mention that car background is really cool going to grab it if I can.

If you scroll slightly up the page you will get an Answer for your Question and the Scene as well.
And the Boobs are the ones from Gloria.

That car background is pretty neat nice job whoever designed that one well done..would be nice to see some random glass clips once in a while soon. Btw @wrightsayswow just curious who's boobs are you using as your avatar? Would've immediately thought Gloria but they're just a little bit bigger than hers..im gonna guess.. Stella Cox? Anyway just had to mention that car background is really cool going to grab it if I can.

Personally I am not a fan of the Discord solution and I am still not sure I will ever join it.
I think best solution could be simply hosting the iStripper forum in a separate forum site, but, if possible, still owned and ruled by Totem, a site which would not make any sort of sales - so no billing company would be able to make requests to it.

Sorry to reply in English. There are places on the net that will supply you with true random numbers. An example is https://www.random.org/ and this can be used for games. Totem used one of thse services for the Fansign draws and I suppose it still does. I do not know whether it is used for the games but it certainly could be.

Et Pyrrhon-d'Elis qu'en penserait-il de tout cela ?
😆

But in a casino you can change back wins in real money - so chips are a sort of currency, and it's money gamble; in iStripper you can not get any money back -(and company doesn't get economical earnings nor looses from your play) so you don't play for money.
And so, there can be no real similarity - since you didn't just make a comparison, but you said also

Les jeux chez iStripper ne sont que des jeux d'argent et rien d'autre.

which is not true.

No, it's not same thing that in a casino.

Quand dans un passé proche je faisais allusion au casino c'est uniquement au niveau de l'achat d'une monnaie locale et virtuelle pour pouvoir jouer dans le temple de la perte.

=>Quand on veut jouer à une table au casino, on est obligé d'acheter des jetons avec de l'argent et rien d'autre.

=>Quand on veut jouer à une table chez iStripper, on est obligé d'acheter de crédits avec de l'argent et rien d'autre.

Si tu ne vois pas la similitude, je ne peux rien dire de plus!
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Thank you 😄 yes Melena is a beauty for sure.
Have a great day 😉❤️

Bienvenue sur iStripper @Dominik_Kuhi 😊
Et vous commencer avec Melena Maria, comme beaucoup.
J'ai moi-même commencé avec elle, elle est attrayante et ne déçoit jamais 👍
Bon voyage parmi toutes ces filles 😎
Welcome to iStripper @Dominik_Kuhi 😊
And you start with Melena Maria, like many.
I started with her myself, she is attractive and never disappoints 👍
Have a good trip among all these girls 😎

I got one virtual girl's card so far which i bought. :)
I'm happy, cause i think it's worth every coin i payed for it.
Also i'm happy i started to collect them.

It was a Hot Spring Evening back in 2016 and Alexa Tomas did a wonderful job cleaning the car. 😜
This fullscreen - I'm like a kid with a new toy. 😆 My car may need more than one round of cleaning. 😂

Thank you very much but when I bring up this issue is just to send a warning, I didn´t pretend you to reimburse any amount of credits as it´s not possible for me to demonstrate how much you "should" pay back.
Very kind from your side,

That's why I personally prefer to buy the cards I want directly. I rarely play these games unless I really want a SEC card. By doing this I am rarely disappointed.

I'm still waiting to see a show where they wear shorts commando and dance around with them unbuttoned and rolled down though. Maybe some day. *sigh*.

👍👍👍

Best tease imaginable, in my opinion. Classic example: Jasmine's show San Andreas. Enhanced by a totally cock teasing crop top, and Jasmine's fantastic body. Always valuable to study the classics.

I also agree that disabling customers from using Mastercard entirely would be a bad idea. It would ***** loyal customers who have been using Mastercard to purchase from Totem for possiblly years. There are also a lot of customers who would not be willing to change banks or open a card with a new bank just for use with iStripper since it would be a pretty involving process. There are also those customers that this may not even be an option for for one reason or another, including, but not limited to location, living, personal, or financial constraints of one kind or another. Another problem is that other card companies are VERY likely to follow.


I wonder though, if it might be possible for them to get around this by having their users pay through ePoch or Paypal? Thus payments would go to ePoch or Paypal and not to Totem directly I suppose? Then again, ePoch or Paypal may eventually have to follow the same rules?

Discord is a good option but does have some constraints. An example is that certain topics would have to be pinned, such as user created content such as custom fullscreens. The other problem with Discord, is that users may need to create a second account for adult content. I'm not sure if it is possible for anyone on your friends list to currently see what channels you are using but it could become a thing in the future, so I would also advise using a second account for this just in case.

I was also wondering about having the forums hosted on an official fan forum that isn't related or run directly by Totem, but rather by the community as a free forum? Maybe the iStripper Workshop could host it? There are a lot of pretty official fan forums for various video games out there, and they are quite often more popular than the forums on the official page/website. Of course some kind of agreement should probably be made to prevent people from posting anything illegal or pirating content, esp. iStripper content, but I'm sure something could be worked out.


The downside though, is that either way, we are probably losing use of some of the forums that people earned by purchasing cards. That being said, I very rarely even post in those forums since they are cut off from most of the community anyway.


Maybe a community tab could be added to iStripper or quick access to fan created forums/Discord channels? A disclaimer could be added to this tab, that expresses that these are not a part of or run by Totem.

Clea Gaultier
The White Rabbit
f0856 - iStripper XXX

Two versions of the same song spring to mind for this😛😍

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WANNqr-vcx0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gwdL_Zn5nCE

Or from The Matrix

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6IDT3MpSCKI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gzEGBAG8x5U

Lewis Carroll you are a genious.

Cette monnaie virtuelle à l'instar des jetons dans un casino, tu l'achètes bien au préalable avec de la vraie monnaie déposée sur ton compte en banque. Les jeux chez iStripper ne sont que des jeux d'argent et rien d'autre. Même si le gain au final n'est pas financier.

No, it's not same thing that in a casino. The difference is, in a casino you can change back your chips and your gains in actual money; on iStripper you can not do so with credits - so, they are not definable as money and their use it's not a money game, in any way.
Only actual purchase here is the credit acquisition. Whatever you do then with your credits is not a monetary matter - monetarily speaking it is de facto purely fictional (since the company makes its earnings only when you purchase a pack of credits, not - in any way - when you use said credits, neither in order to get a card neither to play a game).

Hopefully Sonya Blaze card is not a SEC card. :\ Was hoping we would see her show this week. Would love to see her in that dress.

Also wanting to see Noah Pink's show.


I'm still waiting to see a show where they wear shorts commando and dance around with them unbuttoned and rolled down though. Maybe some day. *sigh*.

Et puis tous ces jeux autour de l'aléatoire venant de programmes informatiques sont pure illusion. Les fonctions "random" utilisées, quelque soit le langage de programmation, fonctionnent en surcharge de définition et on peut à tout moment piloter la plage de résultats gagnants en la réduisant ou en l'augmentant. On peut même passer en paramètre à ladite fonction ce qu'on appelle dans le jargon une "graine" et qui fait que la fonction "random" retourne toujours la même valeur!!!!

Sorry to reply in English. There are places on the net that will supply you with true random numbers. An example is https://www.random.org/ and this can be used for games. Totem used one of thse services for the Fansign draws and I suppose it still does. I do not know whether it is used for the games but it certainly could be.

Et que dire de la roulette Russe? 😄😭😭😈

Etant donné qu'on ne joue pas de l'argent mais des crédits iStripper (une monnaie complètement virtuelle), il n'y a rien d'illégal dans les jeux que propose Totem à ses clients.

Cette monnaie virtuelle à l'instar des jetons dans un casino, tu l'achètes bien au préalable avec de la vraie monnaie déposée sur ton compte en banque. Les jeux chez iStripper ne sont que des jeux d'argent et rien d'autre. Même si le gain au final n'est pas financier.

Et puis tous ces jeux autour de l'aléatoire venant de programmes informatiques sont pure illusion. Les fonctions "random" utilisées, quelque soit le langage de programmation, fonctionnent en surcharge de définition et on peut à tout moment piloter la plage de résultats gagnants en la réduisant ou en l'augmentant. On peut même passer en paramètre à ladite fonction ce qu'on appelle dans le jargon une "graine" et qui fait que la fonction "random" retourne toujours la même valeur!!!!

Lancer des dés physiques (non truqués) OUI, jouer à la roulette sur table OUI.

Mais avec un programme informatiques et pour de l'argent: JAMAIS!!

Zlata Shine
I'm Your Fantasy
f0876 - iStripper XXX

Rebecca Volpetti
The Siren In The Net
f0862 - iStripper XXX

Asia Vargas
One For Alberto
f0885 - iStripper XXX

Mary Popiense
Cherry Mary
e1654 - iStripper

Clea Gaultier
The White Rabbit
f0856 - iStripper XXX

Mimi Cica
Alley Cat
f0872 - iStripper XXX

Medusa
Leopard Skin Fantasy
f0851 - iStripper XXX

I think we pretty well all agree that Totem stating the odds for these games would be nice for, and beneficial to, the players.

But, being beneficial to the players almost, but not quite, implies that it would not be beneficial for "the house". At the very least it would be an added burden, and a possible added liability if they make a mistake.

I doubt that we will see this data being made available unless a legal obligation to do so is imposed. Currently, it seems, that there is no such legal obligation. I wish there were.

Normalement, il devrait avoir une probabilité de gagner sur les cartes à gratter au minimum...