There has been numerous topics after the release of Natali Blond's Street Style card last week where you can see her playing with a lotion bottle. First of all, I'm happy to see this forum is a real place to discuss and debate about all the aspects of the product, it's good to have your feedback and to see your reactions.

We had a meeting a few weeks ago about where we draw the line and concluded to let (and encourage) the girls play with themselves at the end of clips if they feel like it as long as it remains tastefull. We also decided to draw the line right before the use of toys, so according to that, Natali went a little bit to far with that bottle. Consider it a glitch in the production process, we'll try to stay on the line we chose for the future but won't remove that clip from the site.

As some of you were stating, although some girls are playing with themselves, we like to refer to VirtuaGirl as a product where girls simply strip and get naked. We have to draw the line somewhere and can't as it has been suggested also transfert that responsability to the end user as it will change the way the product is perceived. Let me explain, let's say we decide to also product boy/girl full porn in VirtuaGirl (which we won't) and add a new porn rating to the cards. I don't know about you but I would not want that product anymore on my desktop, even if I can filter that content out, or at least, I wouldn't want that content to be in the same product.

I understand where we draw the line can be a bit too far for some users, a bit not enough for others, we'll be as hot and sexy as possible in the future as long as it remains tastefull.

merci @TotemRex24, ty.
me either not of porn it couples boy/girl is not virtuagirl or not virtuaguy for those which have it, and nothing to see, same in association.

have funrious.

"...we decide to also product boy/girl full porn in VirtuaGirl..."

YEAH!!!!!!

That's fair I think, TotemRex. I was fearing that on my return from work, this evening that you may have decided to pull those bottle clips from download. I'm glad to see that you haven't. I just see this as a one off accidental bonus for me and thankyou for not being pressured into removing it.

Personally, I still find the bottle clip to be tasteful and does not degrade the software any, but as they say, that is just my opinion which will not be shared by all.

Thankyou for handling this issue with the utmost class that I have come to expect from VGHD.

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I love the clip.
I request Totem stand by it's decision to leave the clip.
DO NOT remove it because of threats or demands.

I think that it will be Unreasonable to withdraw this clip for the moment. This is business not personal. Paying customers will leave if totem removes a clip because it was bullied and scolded.

@jununger does a work extraodinaire here but he is not virtuagirl. All of us are virtuagirl. WE all have to accept decisions made.

I thus make a request official to keep this clip.

I think that @jununger will be able to live with 1 clip. He lives with fingering and porn stars on the site. The clip is not on homepage or advertsing.

Edit Note- this was a mirror reply to the post that was spammed all over the forum by alerte. Those posts have since been edited to no text.

Moderation.

I hope that we can all draw a line behind behind this glitch and move on.

Thank you Rex for confirming that this product is intended to remain a soft, strip and get naked with the more explicit girls touching if they feel comfortable with it.

I am able to support either keeping or the animation (which seems to be Totems solution) or fixing the glitch like other cards are fixed when something is not as intended.

@jununger
Thanks so much for all the moderating, for all the discussion. Given Totems response, that this product is actually to stay the way that most of us like it; I do hope that is enough for you (to want to) retain your moderator status.

Again, I am able to support your decision whichever way you choose.

It is good to have the discussion, even heated debate in the forums. A little more toleration and keeping it a little less personal always helps. And remember this can be difficult even when English is your first language.

When English is your second language the opportunity to write it slightly wrong... combined with ambiguity and ability to read it slightly wrong just add to the fires.

i know some dont want that kaind off stuff on here, but honestly junuger acculy resigning as a moderator just becus of one singel clip? and how that hell can a guy get offended by a girl using a prop as a dildo? if less the pearson was gay..but then he wouldent be on here. its okey to mislike it but to be ofended?

Im not a fan of the very explicit clips {i would rather see a good strip and dance than somone just laying on the floor playing with themselves. but from the angle it was shot i dont realy see a prob with this clip. @the swedish nipple slueth lol i think you do a good job here and hope you stay but for somone who dosent like guns you realy shot yourself in the foot now that youve made such a big deal uot of this the sales of this card will go thuogh the roof and some bean counter at totem will make sure more clips like this happen.

Girls sometimes put things up themselves. They masturbate properly, and not just rub themselves slightly with a quick finger.

Some of them do this in clubs while people watch. That is not hardcore boy\girl pornography.

Why is Totem so bothered about making this service VirtuaPrudishGirl?

Surely this should be a broad range representation of what you would find in different strip clubs.

I support the recent changes, and hope that more is appreciated, so that "the line" is recognised as what is as realistic as possible.

I'm glad you guys left the clip in. I would've REALLY ***** this if it became some sort of "collector's item" and appeared on ebay. I wonder if Natali knows about all the controversy she's stirred up.

Well, after reading all the ***** about this card I bought it. Wanting to see what everyone was up in arms about. I'm disappointed that the "extreme, explicit, and offensive" material was removed. It seems like the clip was truncated. This is after all a website for adults. And I would love to be given the choice to disable the clip if I wanted to, or watch the clip in all its glory. I think Natali Blond is a gorgeous woman, and what was written that she's done should be available for everyone who wants to watch. Alas, I cannot change what the corporate body chooses to do.

Edit
Well some how, when I first downloaded the card, not everything was downloaded. I have redownloaded the card, and everything appears to be there.

give all members one vote each and let os tell you how explicit the site should be!!

my vote will be no males! but the girls can do whatever they want including penetration of objects...

My vote is: everything is allowed!!!!!!!!!

TotemRex24,

This setback won't make you change policy again,will it?? I hope not,because I'm happy the way things are. That'd be like taking one step back. After all,Natali's interpretation of your rules produced a bonus clip.

Now...Jununger,

Please don't take this the wrong way,it's not a scold,and I'm not yelling or anything like that,But why didn't you bring this up when Sharka started fingering herself?? I remember(at the time)Sharka was the only one that fingered herself. How is this any different??

Well I'm quite happy about the specific clip isn't removed. I didn't find it offensive, so I don't know why some people are ***** about it. When a girl plays a bit with something, it ain't porn. If those people don't want to see that stuff, they should buy cards with the lowest ratings!

IMO you should allow the girls to do whatever they want and assign a rating to a clip for subscribers to decide whether they want to download or receive clips with a certain rating as part of their subscription. You already have some categories (non-nude, nude, etc)

I certainly dont see any reason for me to renew my membership once I have about 90 girls after 3 months all doing more or less the same thing

NOOOOOOOOOOO..........

I just saw this post by Richard, how could I have missed this!!!!!!!

Richard, I'm sincerely sorry for the posts I've made after you posted this. Again... there has been a miss communication error!!!!

WHY OH WHY!!!! :(

I'm so so so so so so so so so so Sorry Sorry Sorry :(

I think I'll go beat myself up for a while now...

@Richard
Thanks for the explanation I've been asking for, and again I'm sincerely sorry about this whole mess...

I will be you @jununger I will take again your station of modérator, say that you have to think too quickly.

you irritated yesterday have can understand your reaction do not see any objection has that you become again moderating.


I have try to warn you lllooll!!!

@Alerte and All who wonder :)

I don't regret resigning and if asked again I would not accept the offer. Being a mod is a serious ***** in the butt! You get crap from everyone and whatever you do theres always someone who will use your actions against you or try to have you make a mistake. Well... I made a huge mistake this past weekend and I'll goto extremes to not put myself in that position again.

In the end... I still think this clip goes to far and hope that there never will be another one like it again! I also believe there is a serious need for a 5th level of erotica as discussed elsewhere :)

ok @jununger have funrious.

Wow, i just bought this Natali Blond set for all that fuzz some people (dramaqueens?) seem to make. ^^

I had to say i like the set and there was nothing in it I would change. If a model is in the mood and its not ***** to do such kind of things go for it. I don't believe the producers will try to change the style of VGHD into a "*****" kind of thing. So relax. :)