I think it is hight time that someone tell totem that the new xxx format can't last any longer. Let me explain for those who haven't yet purchase new xxx cards : in fact you only have (for most of them) 1 or 2 xxx clips (it's ok that's not bothering me) but what annoys me it's the lenght of the clips sometimes 1 mn or less and the actresses for some of them only rub themselves. in fact it would be better to edit explicit cards (full nudity) rather than xxx cards that are not. i sincerly hope others will understand what i'm talking about and totem to change this format.

thanks y'all

**Comment to TPA66**
Hi TPA66! I totally agree with you here. Aswell I would like to invite you to my Topic that goes all about the New XXX Format I dislike VERY MUCH :(. I dont even buy those cards anymore untill Totem Entertainment goes back to their own loyalty production. for me this format is NOT new content but I experience this as REPLACEMENT. so wrong :(

Only difference I think between you and me is. I want the iStripper XXX cards back how it was full Explicit Cards and full recorded with Sound the whole show, but in the end we both dislike this New XXX Rated Format. I just dont want a another Regular Striptease Card :( iStripper as Original is already a very nice Dance/Striptease Card (sometimes: with Accessoires)

http://www.istripper.com/forum/thread/36321/1?post=534024

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I for one love the new format. I have never cared for the whole masturbation with a toy or another girl. Its short of having a porno flick play on screen. VGHD/iStripper has always been about the tease. The boundaries kept getting pushed further and further out but I think Totem is trying to go back to the core roots of the company and be profitable at the same time.

I agree with @cdub87. For me the XXX clips are an added extra that I am happy to have but I have never regarded them as the most important part of any card. To use an analogy - for the cards that have them the XXX clips are the "destination" but, for me, it is the "journey" to get there that provides most of the interrest.

**Comment to cdub87 & TheEmu**
Hi both of you. For the two of you are one solution.. if you speak about tease..alright?.. just buy, download and watch iStripper Card (the Striptease Cards) they are still active in production by all upcomming new models.

**The world doesn't end by yourself**
Deskbabes was added by Totem Entertainment for a reason couple years ago to satisfy peeple that ask for Explicit XXX content, very simple. What is that roots part meening?... Totem Entertainment never lost it's roots :|... you are still able to Buy Download and Watch... Striptease Shows...solution for you will be.. Dont buy the XXX format version. For me "Deskbabes" is the reason I have this software by Totem Entertainment. if Totem Entertainment was against all this XXX Explicit content, why add it in the first place. I dont think Totem Entertainment is against this XXX Explicit content at all, they just try something new with this XXX Explicit content, what I kind of dislike because I prefer them to produce XXX rated cards in it's old format. Look, if this little Extra XXX Content invites more members to use the Software by Totem Entertainment, what's wrong with that?

**The Full Package Idea**
The funny joke I read somewhere, yesterday: The Full Package Idea, the Communty asked for a Full Package Cards... Just One type of Card that contains ALL.... Introduction, Striptease, Accessoiress, Toys, Masturbation right to final part.. the Orgasm.... Woaaahhaww :O .. that is one type of card messed up.... seriously?, speaking about roots here... with this type of card The Regular iStripper card will be gone and the Old XXX Rated format aswell (what happends at the moment)... Lol, speaking about roots here... Totem Entertainment went in a total another train to somewhere peeple totally didn't expected. :(

No, in summary I totally disagree with both of you ;|... because for both of you are still able to buy new iStripper Root Cards of new upcomming models, what isn't the case in mine situation. Deskbabes was a decent product aswell beside VirtuaGirl, for years Deskbabes was Deskbabes...and members use software Deskbabes, so dont say Deskbabes was just a little extra part of VirtuaGirl. :S because that isn't real.

**Help Totem!, ok..but Customers aswell!**
Look to add little more: Come up with idea to make the software MORE fun! instead of choose what is really needed or not..do we need XXX yes or no... do we need striptease dance .. yes or no :| ... the fact is, We have cards that contains all that kind of things. and those cards doesn't have to change at all, the core of those cards doesn't have to change. think about the fun that can be added to those cards instead, like:

• Trampoline, - Body Oil, - Cars & Motercycles, - Chocolate Bath, - Shower, - Glass Wash, - Cosplay, - Body Paint, - Whipped Cream, - Acrobatic Moves & positions, etc.

@Terbone - I don't think you quite understood me. Obviously Deskbabes were not just a little extra part of VirtuaGirl but for me the more interresting parts of the DeskBabes cards were those that most resembled VirtuaGirl. But even the parts where the two products were most similar they often had a significantly different "feel". I was quite happy to purchase the DB cards because of the added variety they offered but for me the XXX clips were only an added extra, albeit a rather important one, that I was glad to have.

Part of what I liked about the XXX cards, the clips were all long clips, so some of the disrobing clips were drawn out and very sexy. So you would get 3 of those and then the follow up xxx to go with them.

In an earlier post I said

@Terbone - I don't think you quite understood me. Obviously Deskbabes were not just a little extra part of VirtuaGirl but for me the more interresting parts of the DeskBabes cards were those that most resembled VirtuaGirl. But even the parts where the two products were most similar they often had a significantly different "feel". I was quite happy to purchase the DB cards because of the added variety they offered but for me the XXX clips were only an added extra, albeit a rather important one, that I was glad to have.

I realise now that that was not quite true. When I refered to "XXX clips" I should have said "the XXX contents of some clips". One of the things I liked about the old XXX cards was that the average clip length was longer than that for the non-XXX cards. There were clips for which the XXX rating only applied to the final part of the clip and, for these clips, it would be the initial non-XXX part that I found most interresting.

This applied equaly to those clips where the initial part was "just" a striptease or to those where it was more explicit but left you thinking "is she going to use that toy or not?". In the latter case if the answer turned out to be "yes" then I would typicaly move on to the next model (often not even waiting until the end of the clip), but if it was "no" then I would usualy stay with the same card until the answer was "yes". I prefer being teased rather than always granted immediate satisfaction.

@Terbone
If you stay around as long as I have you learn a few things. One thing deskbabes wasn't originally a explicit version of VGHD/istripper. It started as a alternative to VGHD just like VirtuaGuy was. If you look at some the first release cards the girls are not the best looking but they do some nasty performance(in a good way.) Low and behold the alternative products didn't do so well and Virtuaguy was written off while Deskbabes was repositioned as a more "explicit" VGHD. Totem has keep it limping along but duos cards cost more then what they probably took in and as of the year maybe longer I don't think there has been another duo card. I don't know if you were here a while back but the deskbabes cards were almost grinded to a holt. I think totem now is trying to pull both products back together again and excel forward. I will say one thing is don't count this company out yet. They keep changing for better or worse but the outcoming is always on a upward motion.