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orclover
De em Jun 2012
1402 post(s)

New VIP status / New price

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August 1, 2023, 209 respostas
Do you have any evidence that there has been any significant change in the number of long time customers that are leaving. It seems to me that there have been a few who have said that they might be leaving but over the years I have seen many of those actually remain.This effect will can not be seen immediately as the price increase is also not in effect yet. You need a specific period of time after the increase in order to make a reasonable statistic.However, what already is known is, that once people start leaving and go to alternatives, the chances of them comming back are very smal.

You must know that the CEOs of totem are known to use detailed analytics to make decisions. They know what is going on with the customer base and have no problem adapting to the customer base. Just a thought...In America, the peak of the baby boom generation was born in 1956, that puts the peak baby boomer at the age of 67...which happens to be retirement for the entire cohort. I believe this phenomena is happening all over where totem sells the best. This entire mass of relatively healthy people have huge amounts of disposable income and 10-15 years to spend it. I think this group will be totems main income for the next decade. There are also a ton of tech savvy boomers who facilitated the technological revolution and the software, including NFTs are very attractive to this group. Totem can't survive pandering to ***** rearing parents, college kids, and single men just starting careers...of course some customers fall into these categories but there are too many economic pressures. Also, the young generation has grown up with free porn, pirated porn and likely will ***** injustice if they have to pay fair price for erotica.
dar2112v
De em Dec 2007
920 post(s)

New VIP status / New price

Tudo sobre iStripper
July 31, 2023, 209 respostas
@dar2112v

Either raise the price of the show and hope members continue buying at the same rate or just sell more shows by getting new members and encouraging current members to keep spending.
... But on what basis do you conclude that Totem could do much better than they currently are at attracting new customers ?

I didn't say anything about them doing much better? I still see their adds frequently so I know they are still marketing.

I always thought that selling more shows was the whole point of the exclusive shows but if it's not working then they should stop doing it
Why do you think that it may not be working ?

I didn't say it wasn't working? After the 2nd exclusive card was released I predicted they would eventually start doing it monthly and the cost to the catalog would be prohibitive. At the time those cards were never ever to be available again and I didn't see how the bump in sales would compensate for the lost sales over time. Then they came out with the games and made the cards that were never to be available again ... available at a higher price and solved the lost sales over time problem.

But you and others said they needed more money to cover raising cost which implies the exclusives are not compensating well enough. Only Totem knows whether they need to raise the price or simply think they can raise the price and honestly it doesn't matter to me me; at some price I will step in and buy more and at another I will stop buying once and for all. But if the reason for raising the price is to cover the cost of producing exclusives then I wish they would stop.
orclover
De em Jun 2012
1402 post(s)

New VIP status / New price

Tudo sobre iStripper
July 31, 2023, 209 respostas
However, what already is known is, that once people start leaving and go to alternatives, the chances of them comming back are very smal.there are none though. Unfortunately. Except for hentai. I'm confident that a good chunk of users left when hentai shows did not make the poll with hentai always being in the top 5 most popular porn genres world wide, . And now like 5 or 6 years later (can't remember when this was polled exactly) there are quite a few hentai desk mate alternatives but it's just not the same... Anyway I don't wont istripper to fail either. Why would I? I could renovate my appartment with all the money I left here. It's just ***** me off that the site is commiting ***** by walkind the Online Casino route. I don't endorse gambling and as long as any poor soul has the chance to feed their gambling addiction here, I won't recommend istripper to anybody. That's just how it is.

Just remember you aren't the center the of the universe...totem has thousands of customers and millions of possible customers. Totem knows they break into tiers:

Whale Tier: Istripper Collection, Gambling, Auctions, Special Event, Dolz, Opensea, VR,
Collector Tier: Istripper Collection, Gambling, Auctions, Special Event, Dolz, Open Sea, VR
Selector Tier: Istripper Collection, Gambling, Dolz, Open Sea
Skeptical Tier: Istripper collection, gambling
New Buyer: Istripper collection

I think you deeply midunderstand the product and this is creating cynicism. A deep dive into the options available to customers shows we have every chance to get a great service.

1. Reload bonus--> 20%
2. Preview discount--> 20%
3. Master card level discount --> 50%
4. Dolz to credits discount --> 10-25%
5. Dolz overall provides great opportunities to drop price of istripper
6. Gambling game discounts on cards...even free cards
7. 50 free credits for premium
8. 500 free dolz for doing nothing but buying a trading card
9. Watch trading card then sell on open sea for matic, turn matic into dolz
10. Totem gave you a free trading card which sells on opensea for between $15-40!

Even typing these it makes me wonder if totem has been TOO generous. The product as a result is extremely expensive for new customers, and it will take time, awareness, and expertise to get to a point where people begin to understand or get these discounts.
TheEmu
De em Jul 2012
7424 post(s)

New VIP status / New price

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July 31, 2023, 209 respostas
@dar2112v

Either raise the price of the show and hope members continue buying at the same rate or just sell more shows by getting new members and encouraging current members to keep spending.

That is of course quite correct. But on what basis do you conclude that Totem could do much better than they currently are at attracting new customers ? From the little evidence I have based on the user Ids that are allocated when a new user is registered Totem were enrolling about a million new users each year - that was a few years ago but I have no reason to believe that it is much lower than that now.

I always thought that selling more shows was the whole point of the exclusive shows but if it's not working then they should stop doing it

Why do you think that it may not be working ? It may not work if everybody reacted to it like you but that does not mean that it does not work for the user base as a whole. What little evidence we have, namely that Totem started slowly with the games and have ramped them up over the years, indicates to me that it has probably been a successful strategy.

@minko

Why do yo think the company still exists?

Because Totem have over the years pursued a viable strategy with respect to their product, their customers and the prices they charge. A very important part of that is not selling for less than the combined cost of production and of their other business expenses - these other expenses affect old stock as well as new production. It should be noted that us old established customers are far from being Totem's best customers as far as current sales are concerned - a significant proportion of new customers buy more cards than we do (often more than we possibly can) and pay far more for it than we do.

Given that inflation is something that affects us all there will inevitably be a point at which a price rise is inevitable. To repeat a point I made in an earlier post a 20% increase over something like 8 years is nt unreasonable. If you did it in smaller steps you would need to have base prices like 25.125 credits and it would make the prices seen by triple diamond premium member for the cheapest cards be even siller - unless you are happy with rounding up the prices.

You know you messed up when long time users start to consume less or even leave.

Do you have any evidence that there has been any significant change in the number of long time customers that are leaving. It seems to me that there have been a few who have said that they might be leaving but over the years I have seen many of those actually remain.
dar2112v
De em Dec 2007
920 post(s)

New VIP status / New price

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July 31, 2023, 209 respostas
Why do you wish for iStripper to Fail ?

I have not seen anyone wishing for IS to fail? just the opposite from my prospective.

There is resistance and concern that DOLZ and exclusive content has and continues to ***** the IS experience.

I know I am concerned that the current direction will cost iStripper revenue and shrink membership leading to the inevitable.

I can tell you personally (just my opinion & feelings - nothing more):

1. I don't care about DOLZ and the sooner it goes away the better as far as I'm concerned but I enjoy iStripper and have invested thousands of dollars and years of my time supporting it and hope it's here for many more years to come.

2. I'm OK with a raise in price but I'm concerned it will not actually generate more revenue because buyers will either buy fewer cards, or quite all together, and new potential members could pass all together. Just a concern; only time will tell.

3. If I'm paying an increase because of DOLZ or members are tired of play games then that is annoying. I'm not saying it is but I don't know one way or the other. I have no idea why they feel the need to raise prices but if it's to buy equipment, pay models and their expenses, etc then so be it but I don't think it's data center cost (in my very limited experience with AWS pricing seems flat or even lower cost in the last few years.

Bottom line is the shows probably do cost more to produce BUT there are two ways to compensate for it. Either raise the price of the show and hope members continue buying at the same rate or just sell more shows by getting new members and encouraging current members to keep spending. I think most members would prefer the latter but maybe harder than it seems. I always thought that selling more shows was the whole point of the exclusive shows but if it's not working then they should stop doing it so members can buy the shows they want again.

I could go into how the investment in the catalog is also a hedge against inflation but maybe another time.

But to reiterate - I can tell you I hope iStripper and Totem prosper for years to come.