@ComteDracula
Mon plaisir est d'avoir la possibilité d'acquérir toutes les cartes des filles par l'achat et non le hazard, et de pouvoir les faire danser sur mon écran.
Il me semble que cela devrait être le but premier de iStripper.
Et c'est bien le but premier de Totem avec iStripper. Il n'y a que 7 cartes Evènement Spécial sur plus de 4200 cartes !

And it's the first goal of Totem with iStripper. There are only 7 Special Event Cards on over 4200 cards !

And that's where the "low *****" is that in these 7 cards, some are not available for purchase other than through gambling and luck. This is where this thread is created.

If that were the case @stefnev1, I would never have started this thread, and I would have either participated, as was the case at the beginning, in the purchase of either a forward calendar or all the cards for the coming month.

What will it take to make it clear that I am against all kinds of games (I find it immoral) and that I am a collector who wants to own all the cards?

Melena Tara Rya's card in the blind, which is inaccessible to me, is a kind of provocation that Totem constantly puts in my face, and my response to this provocation is to say that I refuse from now on the purchase of new card, until Totem has given me his tossing.

One point is all.

I see that there are people who make arguments about the legitimacy of extracting money from people, who ultimately want these cards, and who do not get them in the end, ending up with cards that they do not want. And it can cost them dearly. How can this be justified.

I read about a guy who stays in Mexico. Can we agree that we don't earn much in Mexico? He said, I did not reread the post, sorry if I'm not correct, that it was his back to days of wages.

There are people who have gambling addiction problems. Oddly enough iStripper leads to some dependence already at the outset. Can you imagine that with this kind of game without coming from getting a special event card, it will help?

Not everyone is able to put a limit like @Wyldanimal.

I am weary of seeing some remarks that go in the direction of legitimizing 'The Error', which Totem has made and I hope as soon as possible a solution that will put an end to all these speeches that go round in circles.

Me the True Answer I want from Totem, not the differing opinions of the forum members.


Et c'est justement là où le "bas blesse", le problème est que dans ces 7 cartes, certaines ne sont pas disponible à l'achat autrement que par le gambling et la chance. De là la création de ce fil de discussion.

Si ce serait le cas @stefnev1 , je n'aurais jamais débuté ce fil de discussion, et j'aurais soit participé, comme c'était le cas au début, à l'achat soit d'un calendrier de l'avant ou de toutes les cartes du mois à venir.

Cela va prendre quoi pour faire comprendre que je suis contre toute sorte de jeux (Je trouve cela immoral) et que je suis un collectionneur qui tient a posséder toutes les cartes ?

La carte de Melena Tara Rya dans le store, et qui m'est inaccessible, est une sorte de provocation que Totem me met constamment au visage, et ma réponse à cette provocation est de dire que je refuse dorénavant l'achat de nouvelle carte, tant que Totem ne m'aura pas donné satisfaction.

Un point c'est tout.

Je constate qu'il y a des gens qui ammène des arguments à la légitimité de soutirer de l'argent à des gens, qui au final veulent ces cartes, et qui ne l'obtienne pas au final, se retrouvant avec des cartes qu'ils ne veulent pas. Et cela peut leur coûter très cher. Comment peut-on justifié cela.

J'ai lu le sujet d'un gars qui reste au Mexique. Peut-on s'entendre qu'on ne gagne pas beaucoup au Mexique ? Il disait, je n'ai pas relu le post, désolé si je ne suis pas exact, que celui lui revenait a des jours de salaires.

Il y a des gens qui ont des problème de dépendance au jeu. Curieusement iStripper ammène une certaine dépendance déjà au départ. Vous imaginez-vous qu'avec ce genre de jeu sans issu d'obtenir une carte évènement spécial, cela va aider ?

Ce n'est pas tout le monde qui est capable de se mettre une limite comme @Wyldanimal .

Je suis las de voir certaines remarques qui vont dans le sens de légitimer "l'Erreur", que Totem a fait et j'espère au plus vite une solution qui va mettre un terme à tous ces discours qui tournent en rond.

Moi la Vraie réponse je la veux de Totem, et non des avis divergents des membres du forum.

@pantalone - as I have repeatedly stated Totem have the data, we do not other than the tiny scraps that Totem have mentioned in various (typically old) posts or on the affiliates web page. We can not know whether that data is accurate or not, but if we assume that it is correct we can make more informed judgements than if we just rely on gut feeling. Totem, of course having full access to the data can make very much better judgements than us as to the efficacy of their various business practices.

Modifying previous stance of: " @Totem , Ditch the Games " .
I would like Totem to discontinue making any cards ***** to any game.
I would like Totem to discontinue any game of chance if odds are not posted on same screen.
If odds are dependent of player, that should be your burden to figure out, not player's.

@ward666999

See if I have this correct,
@name is Forum function and works only from within a thread post to bring up name profile ?? ; and not from Search... box ??

It is correct.

@Wyldanimal , please confirm or correct.
"of the 7 winners I listed. Now that I can see their Profiles, I see that none have made Forum posts and maybe that is reason they do not come up in Members, Search....."

Seemingly confirmed. One of those 7 finally has made a post and can now be found via Forum, Members, Search.... using just name, without @.
@Shadow24 , thanks.

See if I have this correct,
@name is Forum function and works only from within a thread post to bring up name profile ?? ; and not from Search... box ??

Denisa

the average time that customers are retained is 5 months and have elsewhere stated that roughly half their income is from new customers rather than long term collectors

Now there's an interesting fact, wot I didn't know! Rather begs the question, why haven't they ever asked what is it that differentiates a loyal customer from one they're going to lose in 5 months. Maybe they have asked, but they've never asked me (at least, I don't remember them doing so). Their business would be so much bigger, if they could improve retention.

So, never mind those of us that go on buying cards, why do people leave? Presumably they are active consumers of this sort of thing, or they wouldn't be here in the first place. The technical quality is good, the girls are pretty and cater for a wide range of tastes. Any thoughts?

Price is low for loyal customers, but not so low for people with small collections. I wonder if a limited exchange scheme would work. For example, offer a 50% discount on the purchase of a card, if you trade in one that you don't like or are bored with? Equivalent resolution and quality, obviously. Maybe restrict it to cards bought without a loyalty discount. Anything that avoids new customers from disengaging. A customer that stays for twenty months is worth two who leave after five, even if they are offered a 50% discount to do so. And, because the number of cards in their collection is static, they don't get a loyalty discount.

I know exchange schemes have been rejected before on the grounds of reduced profitability, but with the attrition rate so high, there must be something they can do. Maybe it's not about price....

@ComteDracula

Mon plaisir est d'avoir la possibilité d'acquérir toutes les cartes des filles par l'achat et non le hazard, et de pouvoir les faire danser sur mon écran.
Il me semble que cela devrait être le but premier de iStripper.

Et c'est bien le but premier de Totem avec iStripper. Il n'y a que 7 cartes Evènement Spécial sur plus de 4200 cartes !

And it's the first goal of Totem with iStripper. There are only 7 Special Event Cards on over 4200 cards !

@HazelEyes

I'ms gonna follow my moms advice ands not trusts anythings I'se reads ons a porns site.

I'm a little bit disappointed with these words. Why did you ask a question to the team, if you don't believe the answer ?

@pantalone

While it is correct that a (normal) business can't exist without customers they do not have to be satisfied customers - though it is obviously better if they are. Even if disatified customers stop being customers the business can continue if it recruits new customers. If, as Totem have claimed, the average time that customers are retained is 5 months and have elsewhere stated that roughly half their income is from new customers rather than long term collectors, we can be sure that there is a continual stream of new customers.

Customers can be, and usualy are, the most important part of doing business, but they are not the reason that the business exists.

Note, neither the accountant nor the CEO in your pub discussion argued that the purpose of the business was to have cusomers (happy or otherwise) and that it should be run by the firm's public relations or customer service department.

Totem could, in theory, lose all its customers and continue to exist using profit from previously invested income.

I do not know if you are turning into a socialist - but I do know that I am one albeit only a mild one.

@TheEmu

I once had this discussion in a pub with an accountant and the CEO of the building firm in which we all worked. The accountant argued that the objective of the firm was to make as much profit as possible, Therefore, he argued, accountants should be in charge. No, said the CEO, we're here to build houses, you just keep score. There the conversation ended, as you can imagine it might.

A business can exist without profit, but it can't exist without customers. If the customers are not numerous enough or don't spend enough, in the long run the business will fail.

I don't think that Totem makes a huge profit. They make enough to pay their staff and investors, but, if they made more they'd either be investing more to expand or they'd all have retired by now. Sure, they want to make a profit, but they could probably make more by becoming hedge fund managers (flippant and questionable statement there, but you know what I mean). They do what they do because they like doing it and enjoy our approving willingness to fund it.

It's the people that matter to a business, and that includes staff, customers and investors. The willing participation of all is essential. They are equally important, although individually replaceable. Profit is just the scoreline, albeit a very important measure of business viability.

Am I turning into a socialist?

You can writes and sees anythings yous wants to here as a iStripper apologist. I'ms gonna follow my moms advice ands not trusts anythings I'se reads ons a porns site.

@Hazeleyes - I see absolutely no "oily statesments". The wording said "special games and promotions". i.e. special games and special promotions as opposed to "ordinary" games and promotions.

Trusting the words wrotes by company officials goes a longs ways. Seesing oily statesments by snakesoil salesmens ins official statesments goes longs ways too, buts in the wrongs direction.

@HazelEyes

You are misinterpreting what you have read. Totem are only saying that certain of their games and promotions will be "special" in that they will offer Joker cards as part of their rewards. They do not say that all games will be special in this way.

We have released a new reward for those who participate to our promotions! Named "Joker cards".

What's the concept?
A joker card is a voucher that you can exchange for any card of the store including the Special event cards.

How to win a Joker card ?
Joker cards are to be won during special games & promotions

The Emu

The pictures is ofs an e-mail sended to me from iStripper. Cans you sees the words paticipate in our promotions. I takes the slot machine as a promotions.

In the quotes aboves from the public face of iStripper can you reads the part sezing joker cards are to be won during special games and promotions. I takes the slot machine as a specials games.

@Nebal - I do not defend it - I simply explain the way the world of works. The customers want one thing, Totem want something rather different. Totem have the choice as to what they do whether we approve of it or not.

@pantalone - the reason why Totem offer us anything at all is for them to make a profit from it. That is primary, customer satisfaction is secondary. If, in order to increase profit a business diasapoints some customers then the increase in profit will in almost all cases take priority, Conversely if some way can be found to increase customer satisfaction in a way that increases profits (or at least is not too expensive) then steps are likely to be made in that direction.

You say

My point is that @Corbomite has made an important distinction. The games are a separate business. What the game customer enjoys is the chance to win a unique item. But those customers who enjoy a "full" collection of purchased cards are, of course, left out in the cold.

And I completely agree with you about it, and with your proposed solution to keep the two business practices more clearly separated. But none of that has any bearing on what I have been saying about Totem doing things because they are profitable.

If I may, TheEmu and others consistantly defend the practice as if they're condoning paying a ton of money just for a chance to win a card offered here because that's what Totem wants. Well, I think the majority, myself included just want to be able to come here and buy every card that we wish. Like I've said before, if Totem wants extra credits for a specific card and the amount is somewhat reasonable, then fine I would pay. In plain english... A lot of members are pissed off and just want to pay fair price..rollerskates or otherwise...a nice change from the usual outfits, whips, lingerie, etc that we see here.

But the supposition expressed in that final sentence is incorrect - the primary purpose of iStripper is, and should be, to make a profit for Totem. Customer satisfaction is important but secondary. We may not like this, but it is a fundamental aspect of any business.

@TheEmu

Sorry to butt into the conversation, but I'm afraid I disagree with your point about customer satisfaction. A company is a group of of people doing stuff in their own interest. Some people want money to make their lives better, others have money but want to watch dancing girls. Profit is just the reward for the people who make vids of dancing girls and bring them to us.

Totem's real investment is in the idea of bringing us dancing girls, along with their hard work to make it happen. Now they have had another idea: that people who watch the vids might also like to play games. If the customers don't like it, Totem will stop doing it (as they did with VirtuaGuy, iDancer, etc.). Customer satisfaction is not secondary. It is equal to the producers' satisfaction with the profit they make.

Profit is the measure of success, not the god of business. But it's what motivates the producers and is more important to them than the satisfaction of an individual customer.

My point is that @Corbomite has made an important distinction. The games are a separate business. What the game customer enjoys is the chance to win a unique item. But those customers who enjoy a "full" collection of purchased cards are, of course, left out in the cold.

The solution might be to exclude the game cards from the Girls Store and from the purchase stats. List them elsewhere. Make 'em in a different format. Anything that doesn't cause all this furore.

@HazelEyes - the slot machine did not feature joker cards.

So wheres was the winners ofs the jokers cards from this slot machine promotions published?

@Carbo - you wrote

@WyldanimalIt seems to me that you have 2 opposite ideas. In this thread you're approving @Corbomite who's in favor of gambling as the unique way to get special event cards, and in other threads you're approving those in favor of a well defined path to obtain special event cards.Which of these is you're way to see it ??

My Thumbs up, was approval of @Corbomite 's post
it was well presented.

@Corbomite expresses my view on this matter.

In another thread @ComteDracula has said

My pleasure is to have the opportunity to acquire all the girls' cards by purchase and not the chance, and to be able to make them dance on my screen.

It seems to me that this should be the primary purpose of iStripper.

But the supposition expressed in that final sentence is incorrect - the primary purpose of iStripper is, and should be, to make a profit for Totem. Customer satisfaction is important but secondary. We may not like this, but it is a fundamental aspect of any business.

In this thread you're approving @Corbomite who's in favor of gambling as the unique way to get special event cards

Hi @Carbo. Actually, I'm not in favor of using gambling as a way of getting special event cards. I'd prefer to be able to get them through a guaranteed process without spending an excessive amount of money. However, regardless of my preference, the reality is that Totem now has two different business models. My post was simply trying to raise awareness of this so people can adjust their expectations accordingly. I suspect that @Wyldanimal was approving my observations, not the gambling model itself.

@Wyldanimal

It seems to me that you have 2 opposite ideas. In this thread you're approving @Corbomite who's in favor of gambling as the unique way to get special event cards, and in other threads you're approving those in favor of a well defined path to obtain special event cards.

Which of these is you're way to see it ??

@Corbomite

👍

@Wyldanimal,

It is obvious that the notion of pleasure is not the same for everyone.

Totem needs to find, and quickly, something other than gambling and slot machines to satisfy people in agreement with me in connection with special event cards, because personally, I have less and less fun to frequent iStripper.

My pleasure is to have the opportunity to acquire all the girls' cards by purchase and not the chance, and to be able to make them dance on my screen.

It seems to me that this should be the primary purpose of iStripper.


@Wyldanimal,

Il est évident que la notion de plaisir n'est pas la même pour tout le monde.

Totem a besoin de trouver, et rapidement, autre chose que le gambling et les machines à sous pour satisfaire les personnes en accord avec moi en lien aux cartes évènements spéciaux, car personnellement, j'ai de moins en moins de plaisir a fréquenter iStripper.

Mon plaisir est d'avoir la possibilité d'acquérir toutes les cartes des filles par l'achat et non le hazard, et de pouvoir les faire danser sur mon écran.

Il me semble que cela devrait être le but premier de iStripper.

@Wyldanimal
What is not really clear in this @Kaiju statement, is the words "NOT based only on luck but". In my mind it means something like they will increase the chances of winning based on the player's loyalty. That I'm not interested in since you still need luck there's still a possibility you mist it.

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Belka is unbelievably beautiful... and she teases so well

Loyal customers do not deserve to be treated this way.

Let's say I have been consistently buying candy and lottery tickets twice a week at my local convenience store for the last 20 years. If I go to that store tomorrow at the same time as a guy shopping there for the first time, I won't be surprised if we pay the exact same price for the candy and have the exact same chance of winning the lottery. I certainly don't feel like the store is abusing me.

iStripper also sells two different product lines: cards and gambling "tickets" (e.g. scratch cards, slot machine spins). However, unlike the convenience store, iStripper rewards loyal customers with free credits, level discounts and access to additional forums and functionality. We would all love to see them extend those rewards so loyal customers got tickets with better odds of winning, but Totem is not obligated to do so and they are not mistreating loyal customers if they don't.

Like it or not, we should understand that iStripper now has two different business models: selling cards and running gambling games. Right now it's easy to ***** the two because the products and rewards are the same type of item. However, if the gambling stream is very profitable, the special event cards might be the first in a long line of unique items that are only available through the gambling route. I suspect my will power is going to take a beating. 😐

I do like the Idea of an Exclusive card available during a Special event.
That I have no Issue with..

I also Like the other TGIF events that I can take part in.
Like the Slot machine. I set a limit to how much I will spend, trying to win more Credits.
Same with the Scratch off Tickets.
I set a Limit at the start and I don't sway from it.
It is, for me, FUN that way, without the frustration. Because I know exactly how much I'm going to spend.


I think in the future it will more tolerable to many more members.
No more cards Released in a game of Luck...
For me, that is all I wished for.
A clear defined way for a member to obtain the Card on it's Initial Release.

and now with @Kaiju making this Post.

it's obviously still frustrating when you have no luck. That's why we have decided to work on new means to obtain special event cards NOT based only on luck but as rewards for your LOYALTY.

https://www.istripper.com/forum/thread/42891/3?post=633527

I'm curious as to what totem means by "loyal"

I'm not sure that Totem uses that term. I would suggest that a loyal customer is one who continues to purchase a product over an extended period of time and in a significant quantity. I the case of iStripper, I'd suggest that any customer who is still buying an average of 5 or more cards a month after 1 year is a loyal customer. Clearly, collectors are the most loyal of customers by this standard.

Re: Wining Cards in a Lottery

Looking back over 6 months I find that I spent about 800 credit to "win" 6 special event cards. If Totem had set a fixed price of 100 credits per card I for those cards, I would not have purchased them. My conclusion is that Totem has found a way to make more money and I was stupid enough to go along. I will not make that mistake again.

Same for me, Belka is over the top 💖 💋 🔥

I'm curious as to what totem means by "loyal", and what the new path to special events is. It may be quite different than what we are thinking.
Is it people with 4000 cards? Is it people who have hit triple diamond? Is it people who have been here for X amount of time? Is it people who have X amount of forum posts?
I suppose we'll find out later this year, and we'll all be ***** again when it isn't what we're expecting, or hoping for.

@FalconAF

Now that I can agree with - but it is not what you wrote about in the portion of your post that I quoted.

OK, let me try this another way so you'll get a better understanding of my "complaint".

There are EIGHTEEN "Red Fox" cards on iStripper now. I owned...by purchasing...ALL of the available ones she had BEFORE one came out as a "special event card", and was therefore unavailable to me UNLESS I would "gamble" for it. Since that "special" card came out, Totem released MORE of her cards, which I ALSO purchased. So now I have SEVENTEEN of her cards, but can't get the 18th one UNLESS I'm willing to GAMBLE my money to get it?

Not in my lifetime. I've been a "loyal enough" customer by purchaing 17 of her cards already. Why is Totem telling me, "Sorry! The only way you can get her other card is to GAMBLE your money for it...with NO GUARANTEE you WILL get it."

Well, sorry...but I'm not that stupid.

The part of your message that I quoted in my reply, and to which I was reponding, was where you were talking about OTHER (your emphasis) gambling games offering you old cards.

So, what part of "I can't buy THOSE 7 cards" don't you understand? By drfinition, they aren't even SPECIAL. They are just part of a marketing scheme connecting them to a special "event".

All I want is what I come here for...to be able to BUY model cards without getting "gouged" price-wise trying to do it by "gambling" or having to play a "lottery".

But you CAN buy any cards (other than the 7 special event cards) without getting gouged and without gambling.

I don't know where you came up with that conclusion, but it's not "what I want" at all. So please don't put words in my mouth.

All I want is what I come here for...to be able to BUY model cards without getting "gouged" price-wise trying to do it by "gambling" or having to play a "lottery".

As for"price reductions"? Totem already feels I'm worth that as a "loyal customer" by giving me a Double Diamond 40% discount. So any "solution" to being able to get a "special event card" that would cost me MORE than the BASIC no discount price for a card...ANY card...is rediculous.

It's as simple as that.

And any of the OTHER games that promise I WILL win a card of SOME sort? Sorry, but if the card you are gonna give me is already 5 years old and in 1080p or 720p and I didn't buy it 5 years ago or SINCE then, why on earth do you think I'd be happy winning THAT card to begin with? I haven't wanted it for 5 years already. Heck, just send me something else useless for my hard earned money I give you.

Totem already give you a way to obtain any other card you want, with the exception of the Special Event Cards. You can simply buy them at the price that they are offered. What you seem to want would amount to a simple price reduction on anything you want to buy - Totem even sometimes do this as a TGIF offer, but you can not expect any business to simply reduce prices because customers would prefer to play less.

@FalconAF
That's quite a long speech but I totally agree with the way you see things and that's exactly how I see it.

Yeah, it was long. But here's the real thing about it.

People are saying the Totem "Joker Card" is a "gambling game". Actually, it's not. Why? Because any intelligent gambler knows they can increase their chances of winning by playing a true gambling game smarter than other players do. That's how live poker, video poker, and all card games work.

The "Joker Card" event doesn't allow the player to do that. It's a LOTTERY ONLY. You spend your money to buy CHANCES to win something (a Joker Card). Every time you spend another credit to do that, it's like buying another lottery ticket. And there is NO GUARANTEE you will win ANYTHING when doing it, regardless of how much money you throw at it. Out of ALL the money (THOUSANDS of credits) thrown at the Joker Card game, there were only FIFTY winners of the Joker Cards. You might as well be buying lottery tickets hoping to win the "grand prize", which the probability and odds say isn't gonna happen to you, regardless of how money you throw at it. And here's the worst part. You might OCCASSIONALLY win some credits, but rarely will you win more credits than you spend. It HAS to be that way or Totem would be LOSING money running the Joker Card game.

Yeah, there will be SOME winners. But even 50 winners posting something saying, "Hey! I Won! So it's a good game!" just indicates how little they know about "gambling" and the true cost of it. Or it's the marketing strategy, hoping there are enough customers who don't understand they ARE throwing money away doing it.

And any of the OTHER games that promise I WILL win a card of SOME sort? Sorry, but if the card you are gonna give me is already 5 years old and in 1080p or 720p and I didn't buy it 5 years ago or SINCE then, why on earth do you think I'd be happy winning THAT card to begin with? I haven't wanted it for 5 years already. Heck, just send me something else useless for my hard earned money I give you.

It's not rocket science. I won't call it what it realy is, but marketing executives would use a term relating to the word "preditory" if they did.

AM I against the gambling games here? No! Some people will play them regardlees of how good or bad they may be financially. What I AM against is Totem making making me gamble to GEt some of their INVENTORY I come here to BUY...the Model Cards.

If you want to "play gambling games", make it like a real casino. Money in the machine to gamble, and money out if you win (substitute "credits" for "money" if you want, but it's STILL the same thing). But keep the INVENTORY of what is SOLD here SEPARATE from it. I come here to buy model cards. Not "gamble" or play a "lottery" to get them.

Those of you that found the accidental offering of male stripper cards was not to their taste may want to go to your vghd/data folder and delete the contents of the directories begining with the letter b.

Let's wait to hear what Totem will propose to us big spenders.

@FalconAF
That's quite a long speech but I totally agree with the way you see things and that's exactly how I see it.

This one is a very good and appreciated promotion! Thanks)

Yes, a good week to "catch up" on the older cards...... 😎

First, thanks to Totem for replying about trying to do something for their "loyal" customers concerning this fiasco.

Now, let me tell you what WON'T be a solution for me as an ALREADY "loyal" customer who is ALREADY receiving discounts for my PREVIOUS "loyalty".

I've been a member since 2008. I'm "Double Diamond" (sorry...I only buy the cards I'm really interested in) and ALREADY receive a 40% DISCOUNT on any cards I buy now. I do SINCERELY appreciate that as a "loyal" customer.

So, if any "solution" involves a higher price to me for one of the "special event" cards than what a customer who WASN'T already getting a discount (ie - a "new" customer with NO cards) is ***** to pay, I'm keeping my money. I would have no problem paying the "full price" a new customer would have to pay for any REGULAR card (ie - make me pay the regular price for the "spevial EVENT card" without my Double Diamond 40% discount), but I'm not paying or gambling outrageous amounts of money for the card that has been described as NOT EVEN SPECIAL in this thread, because it's the EVENT that is "special". I'd be willing to spend the REGULAR price for the special event card, but no more (while still keeping my Double Diamond 40% discount for all other cards...I'm either still "loyal enough" to keep that or not).

If anybody thinks I would ever pay $25 for ANY card here, they are out of their minds. I pay $50 for 500 credits when I buy my credits. I don't get a Double Diamond discount on that. And I will NEVER pay 250 credits ($25...or MORE, as some people have suggested) to get ANY card here, regardless of how "special" it may be.

Heck, I can pay $19.95 for 1 month for most of the "affiliate" sites Totem is associated with, then I could download the ENTIRE CONTENT of that site within 30 days...pictures AND videos (assuming I had the storage space for the content...which I do have). So I'm NEVER going to willingly pay $25 or more for a single card here. Nor risk GAMBLING that much (or more, as some have said they ended up gambling to get one of the cards).

I'm gonna assume there's a reason Totem terminated the old SUBSCRIPTION membership, and it's probably because MANY people got fed up with paying for cards they DIDN'T want to buy to begin with. For those people (like me and others) it costs us LESS to just buy the cards we WANT to buy. These "games" now ***** us to try to get cards we DO want, but end up getting other cards we DON'T want instead. And the same thing happens with the "Buy the whole month in advance and we'll give you the Special Event card". Ain't no way I'm spending money on a month's worth of cards I DON'T want just to get ONE card I WOULD want.

So, if the cost of a "special event" card to me will EVER be more than the price of a REGULAR card for a BRAND NEW MEMBER, I'm not buying it. Heck, as Wyldanimal and others have said, the CARD itself isn't "special", it's the stupid "event" that is. So don't make me pay more for the card than the highest cost it would be to a brand new iStripper customer with NO cards to begin with. I'm already "a loyal customer", so give me a break. If you know that MOST new customers are only going to stay around for 5 months (as the stated "statistics" in previous posts indicate), screw them around by making THEM "gamble" or "pay more" (like you ALREADY DO because I get a discount for being Double Diamond and they don't).

That's the terms Totem will have to meet to keep me a "loyal" customer, instead of jerking me around by making me gamble my money or pay some kind of totally outrageous price for a card that isn't even "special" itself, but just associated with a "special event".

Great, I had a lot of Classics still on my wishlist. Well, I still have a lot on my wishlist anyway, but this is a good moment to especially grab the classics.

OK Totem, you make me rearrange my top ten when you bring back a vastly improved Nici then you add the amazing Angelika Grays, now you are just messing with my heart as you introduce Belka. I may have a new number one! OMG I love everything about Belka, so thank you, again, Totem.❤️❤️😍