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Moh1336
Joined in Sep 2009
49 글

Special Event Card - Why?

iStripper에 관한 모든 것
November 8, 2019, 70 답변
I haven't purchased a single card since this special event nonsense started. A lot has changed since I joined up, some good, some bad.

Do I think it's a bad business practice? Yes.
Do I think it shows a complete lack of loyalty to long time customers? Yes.

For Totem it really comes down to how can they best rid people of their money? Offer the cards at normal price? At an increased price? Make people gamble multiple times more than the card is worth and maybe get it if they are lucky?

For each of us that think special event cards are disrespectful, money milking nonsense. There's probably 3 people willing to throw away their money to try and get them. So for Totem it probably is worth losing members because the overall net gain for them is high.

I for one have come to accept the multiple cards on my wishlist will never be purchased. 10 years ago Vgirl was essentially an adult entertainment site where you came and bought a product. But they decided to push a more gambling aspect to it. I disagree with it and I won't buy anything else from them while they restrict certain cards for gambling purposes.

But at the same time I won't slag them off for it, back in the day Totem were giving me a free card every week and I wouldn't be double diamond without that. Now they have gone the other way and make it harder to get some things because you can't straight buy them. That's their choice. If they feel it is working for them, cool.

I don't agree with them on moral grounds which is why I won't be spending any more money on this company in the foreseeable future. But I'll still come around from time to time to see what's new.

It's interesting for me that I first saw this discussion about SE cards back in March/April, I come back today and the same topic is still rife. The only thing I can say is Totem are clearly ignoring their customers. For a topic to still be constantly brought up six months on, there clearly must be a lot of people angered by it.

At the end of the day, Totem do not care about us or our thoughts. They are a business, money is what they want. They will do things some people won't like, if it's genuinely a problem to you speak with your wallet not your words. Words won't be heard, loss of income will.
orclover
Joined in Jun 2012
1404 글

Special Event Card - Why?

iStripper에 관한 모든 것
November 7, 2019, 70 답변
You're absolutely right. People are suckers when it comes to marketing designed to get them to pay outrageous prices for something that isn't that high quality . $50 for a single card? Stupid, stupid, Stupid.

Of course, the only way to get a merchant to quit doing that is to take your money elsewhere.

BTW, it's not only 5 cards I'm not buying anymore. It's ANY models cards that have an event card now or in the future that I can't just outright purchase at a REASONABLE price. Like the newest Red Fox card that just showed up as a regular purchase card. Screw that. I already own the OTHER 18 cards that I COULD purchase, but Totem insists that I can't get her "event card" unless I gamble for it. Well, if that's the case, I'm not buying any more of her new "for purchase" cards either. And when I run out of my latest $50 credits purchase, I'm probably taking ALL my money elsewhere. No more $50 credit purchases either. I can get my jollies somewhere else without getting screwed after 10 years of supporting the company.

I think it hard to admit that we do not control the market. The big spenders control the market. Those with disposable income are the ones that matter most to totem. Those like us, who spend $20 a month are expendable. They are a reputable company but they can't ignore the fact that some people will spend hundreds a month for something that use to cost $1.30. And to be honest, It might allow us to get the very top talent on the market instead of waiting for girls to age and lose popularity or have to get girls before they become big. If they brought in an American starlet, had her do 3 special event, and 3 normal cards I would fine with it.
FalconAF
Joined in Jan 2008
530 글

Special Event Card - Why?

iStripper에 관한 모든 것
November 7, 2019, 70 답변
You're absolutely right. People are suckers when it comes to marketing designed to get them to pay outrageous prices for something that isn't that high quality . $50 for a single card? Stupid, stupid, Stupid.

Of course, the only way to get a merchant to quit doing that is if enough customers take their money elsewhere.

BTW, it's not only 5 cards I'm not buying anymore. It's ANY models cards that have an event card now or in the future that I can't just outright purchase at a REASONABLE price. Like the newest Red Fox card that just showed up as a regular purchase card. Screw that. I already own the OTHER 18 cards that I COULD purchase, but Totem insists that I can't get her "event card" unless I gamble for it. Well, if that's the case, I'm not buying any more of her new "for purchase" cards either. And when I run out of my latest $50 credits purchase, I'm probably taking ALL my money elsewhere. No more $50 credit purchases either. I can get my jollies somewhere else without getting screwed after 10 years of supporting the company.

BTW #2: I would never be a "Full Collection" buyer anyhow. Hell, I only own 1000+ cards now. But even then, it would take me over THREE SOLID MONTHS to just sit and watch all of those clips. That's without any sleep, potty breaks, or anything else. Congrats to all the people who have all the cards in their collections (4000+). They could never watch all of them again even if they wanted to. Not enough time. I'm not knocking collectors, but let's get real about how long it would take to watch over 4000 model cards. So I hope they aren't collecting them for a future investment return, like baseball cards. 😉
orclover
Joined in Jun 2012
1404 글

Special Event Card - Why?

iStripper에 관한 모든 것
November 7, 2019, 70 답변
I've been BUYING cards here as a "Loyal Customer" since 2008. If you want to screw around with turning people into "gambling *****" to get them to spend outrageous amounts of money with no guarantee of winning the card(s) they want, do it to the NEW customers. Let me...a LOYAL customer for over 10 years...just BUY the damned card if I want it.

Is Totem LOSING MONEY because I refuse to gamble to get the cards I want? They most certainly are. They are losing MY money because I refuse to spend it by having to gamble it for the card(s) I want to BUY. I have ALREADY spent money that I used to spend here at other sites (and they aren't related to Totem in any way) to get pics and videos of many of the models available here.

Case in point? Sky Blue has 7 cards currently. I would have bought ALL of them if I didn't have to GAMBLE to get ONE of them, but I haven't bought ANY of them because she is (or has become) a "milk the customer for as much money as possible" model. So Totem has lost SEVEN purchases from me instead of just one. I get Sky Blue pics and vids from other sites where I spend my money for them to just BUY them instead of having to gamble to get one of them there. And that applies to other "event card" models here too. There are MANY other model cards I would have BOUGHT here if I didn't have to gamble to get ONE of them for that particular model.

Totem already gives me a DISCOUNT for being a previous BUYER of cards in enough quantity to be considered "loyal". If they want me to REMAIN loyal, LET ME BUY THE CARDS I WANT WITHOUT HAVING TO GAMBLE to get them. If they want to charge me FULL PRICE without my discount for the "event card", I could even live with that. But quit treating me like a brand new customer you want to turn into a gambling ***** to milk as much money from as possible. That is just an incredible insult to someone who has been a loyal card BUYING customer for over 10 years.

You'll still make increased profits from the "gambling *****" you create, while continuing to reap the profits from my card PURCHASES I would make (but don't make now by my refusal to participate in gambling BS).

Screw your new customers AND keep your old LOYAL ones at the same time.

Lol. you skipping 5 cards costs totem $8. Many customers have paid 50$ for a special event card...and probably hundreds of $ for the entire set. Don't blame totem. Blame the fools who spend hundreds for a non-special card just to have a complete collection. This is the world we live in. People spend thousands of dollars to win at mobile games, thousands to win at pc games. People are stupid, but people are free. The only issue I would have with totem is if the product stayed stagnant while they milked these people. Well the product has improved in a number of ways since from quality, to talent, to costumes, to sustainability. Nearly every entertainment service works this way from phones, to movies, to video games. People spend hundreds of dollars to go to a movie and get booze and high quality food, but that money will make its way down to make a better facility overall.
FalconAF
Joined in Jan 2008
530 글

Special Event Card - Why?

iStripper에 관한 모든 것
November 6, 2019, 70 답변
I've been BUYING cards here as a "Loyal Customer" since 2008. If you want to screw around with turning people into "gambling *****" to get them to spend outrageous amounts of money with no guarantee of winning the card(s) they want, do it to the NEW customers. Let me...a LOYAL customer for over 10 years...just BUY the damned card if I want it.

Is Totem LOSING MONEY because I refuse to gamble to get the cards I want? They most certainly are. They are losing MY money because I refuse to spend it by having to gamble it for the card(s) I want to BUY. I have ALREADY spent money that I used to spend here at other sites (and they aren't related to Totem in any way) to get pics and videos of many of the models available here.

Case in point? Sky Blue has 7 cards currently. I would have bought ALL of them if I didn't have to GAMBLE to get ONE of them, but I haven't bought ANY of them because she is (or has become) a "milk the customer for as much money as possible" model. So Totem has lost SEVEN purchases from me instead of just one. I get Sky Blue pics and vids from other sites where I spend my money for them to just BUY them instead of having to gamble to get one of them there. And that applies to other "event card" models here too. There are MANY other model cards I would have BOUGHT here if I didn't have to gamble to get ONE of them for that particular model.

Totem already gives me a DISCOUNT for being a previous BUYER of cards in enough quantity to be considered "loyal". If they want me to REMAIN loyal, LET ME BUY THE CARDS I WANT WITHOUT HAVING TO GAMBLE to get them. If they want to charge me FULL PRICE without my discount for the "event card", I could even live with that. But quit treating me like a brand new customer you want to turn into a gambling ***** to milk as much money from as possible. That is just an incredible insult to someone who has been a loyal card BUYING customer for over 10 years.

You'll still make increased profits from the "gambling *****" you create, while continuing to reap the profits from my card PURCHASES I would make (but don't make now by my refusal to participate in gambling BS).

Screw your new customers AND keep your old LOYAL ones at the same time.
Boorlom
Joined in Apr 2008
1939 글

Special Event Card - Why?

iStripper에 관한 모든 것
November 6, 2019, 70 답변

Sorry, but I did not translate your text, because it makes no sense. I don't want to waste my time.
This is not a rare thing, which can be a long debate or brag to friends . It's just porn.
This morning I came up with a very simple and easily doable rule for myself.
Some time ago, I created a thread where I was outraged about too few cards with Blake Eden and Jillian Janson (only 4 cards each). And I was told that the new Studio did not meet the time. Is this the excuse of professionals?!
I will not buy cards piece by piece, as I often did before. Now I will wait for all the cards with the model I like. If only one card will be in the category " Special.."then I'll buy five cards and forget about the sixth. If two cards in the category " special.."then I don't buy-4 is too little. Blake Eden and Jillian Janson are the last favourites who have only 4 cards each.

Manue, I read this topic earlier. It doesn't change anything.
Interest will drop. Cards in this category will age inevitably and the desire to buy them will fade.
Special Even Card is the idea of one person from the team (always one person). He (or she) voiced this idea, colleagues liked it and implemented it. And I hope that someone from the team will come up with another idea and ask the question: "Why the hell are we still not selling these cards?"

And then there will be predictable events. In the future, on the eve of any holiday (perhaps Christmas), you will create a theme in which you write that by popular demand of users, we conferred, decided to put part of the cards "Special" for free sale.
Regular visitors to the forum will clap their hands and say how generous you are.
I'll just wait.
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