I see some of the 'better' shows are going to the Dolz NFT site and I'm wondering if they'll be on both Dolz and IS? As I understood it Dolz shows were not going to be at the cost of IS but it's unclear to me how that will work.

I wont be participating in Dolz any more than I do in exclusive cards and I don't see how Dolz secedes in the end. But from what it looks like to me a lot of time and money is going into Dolz so I suspect its going to take a while for it to fail and I bummed out to think of the shows that will be lost if they are exclusive to Dolz.

Does anyone have any details on plans to crossover between Dolz and IS or are those shows just going to be lost .. at least lost to me.

Does anyone plan on trying Dolz at all? Speaking as someone who has some BTC and a couple other cryptos I don't see a market for porn NFT. Maybe a bigger brand could do something iconic with lets say Marilyn Monroe. Without the brand and history a porn NFT would just be expensive porn in my mind. I can see how crypto goes to the moon or the way of tulips but only see one direction for NFT porn.

I'm just hoping we don't lose good shows trying to harvest tulips.

@LisaParadis said that some of the funds made with the dolz will go to istripper.

funds made with the dolz will go to istripper.

LOL .. think about that statement for just one minute ;)

While I'm sure @Lisa meant well; it is obvious the opposite is true, revenue and content that could be invested in IS is obviously funding Dolz.

But that doesn't answer the question .. is the content lost?

Does anyone have any details on plans to crossover between Dolz and IS or are those shows just going to be lost .. at least lost to me.

As the whole point of the NFT / Dolz thing is to provide "exclusive" content then yes, those shows are not going to be availablee to anyone (like me) who does not participate.

As Totem are continuing to release 7 cards per week the NFT/ Dolz cards are extra content so we "lose" nothing. It would be exactly the same if some other company than Totem were producing those "lost" cards. Well, there is some potential impact because only one company is involved as there will be some degree of cross subsidising between the two products which may be good if the new pduct is successful or bad if it isn't.

I wrote about this a little while ago, we will lose cards.

It is true that the weekly output of shows might not change but there will be shows from girls that will not be available anymore.

If a girl produces 6 shows and she's popular there is a chance that 1 show will be for Dolz 1 for SEC and and 4 Regular.

A weekly output is different if you have a girl you really like and can only get 4 shows of her for in a particular take instead of 6 shows.

@Ironman79

No we will not lose cards. While it will be true that there will be cards that we will not be able to access we will have lost nothing. Most of the girls also work for other companies - have we "lost" access to that content because those photos or videos are not available as part of the bonus content here ? Of course not.

A weekly output is different if you have a girl you really like and can only get 4 shows of her for in a particular take instead of 6 shows.

Which is completely irrrelevant as far as us "losing" anything. By your logic if the "lost" cards had been released as normal then we would have "lost" the cards that were made in their place.

If anything we now have extra content available to us, albeit via a route that you and I do not want to utilise.

It's interesting to me that "in this case" you see not being able to access shows is different from losing i.e. not being able to get certain shows.

The content they do for other companies has nothing to do with this we are talking about iStripper. It seems like you are thinking of Dolz and iStripper as separate entities when that's not quite right. All the content that's being produced by Totem per Take for each girl is getting divided among the two companies.

No I am not thinking of them as different entities - but the fact that they are made by the same company makes no difference as far as us "losing" anything.

If Totem decided to only make 5 cards on each visit to the studio,but still released 7 cards each week, we would not be losing anything - a change (even if you think it is a change for he worse) is not the same as a loss. You can't lose something you never ha, and you never had these cards.

I suppose that you could say that you have lost the mistaken belief that there will be 6 cards in each "set". If you make unwarrented assumptions then you will inevitably come to incorrect conclusions.

Totem produit des NFT sous forme de spectacles identiques aux shows que nous connaissons et qui seront jouables sur la même application. C'est la stratégie de totem pour attirer ses clients vers Dolz. La sensation induite de spectacles perdus ou manqués est volontaire.

Totem produces NFTs in the form of shows identical to the shows we know and which will be playable on the same application. This is totem's strategy for attracting customers to Dolz. The induced sensation of lost or missed shows is voluntary.

There's that 7 a week again lol

I'm speaking on...shows per girl being cut and divided. lol

But never mind i see it doesn't really matter the number as long as you still get 7 a week. lol

There is no set number of cards a girl produces per visit.
For example Lya Missy did in her last visit only 4 cards, Eve Sweet did in one set only 3 cards.
A girl could also make 7 or 8 cards, if they have enough time.
The number of cards a girl does is more limited by the time she is in studio, then a fix amount.

The only number that is set, is the number of cards per week.
And even that is not fix. In the past were less cards per week and when something happens, like 2020 the number gets reduced too.

I'm speaking on...shows per girl being cut and divided. lol

We know that you are talking of shows per girl - BUT there has never been any promise that these will be made or released in groups of 6 and even less that that rate would remain as the norm. You have compared your expectation with reality and found that what you had imagined did not correspond to reality.

There is a huge difference between not getting something and losing something. Disapointment is not the same as loss.

May be we should just enjoy all hundreds of models, and thousands of shows we already have access too.
And yes I just think of Dolz as separate entity now, just like MetArt or Watch4Beauty and so many others.

Its Totem's decision to shift some upcoming istripper shows to Dolz.
I got to know this in February and this shifting and rarity maybe profitable for businesses and traders but ***** for consumers like myself especially if it exceeds my limit.

Because when I learned about what NFTs actually are, I had seen high prices on opensea.io which considerably exceed my limit though I have nothing to do with those NFTs.

I still did not give up and I hope istripper NFTs are not like opensea ones and so I have somewhat learned Wazirx, Binance, Trustwallet etc. to load BUSD and BNB of BEP20 network and linked all wallets and did KYC on every wallet.

Even Special Event Cards are not so ***** for me (like opensea NFTs) after I eased it out in November 2021 End and I carefully spend jokers.I keep track of when to play scratch tickets and when to not.

All I'm concerned is I should be able to get virtuagirl shows shifted to Dolz anyhow and it should not exceed my limit.
I never think of Dolz as separate because after all its done in same studio, same place and it's just another payment method for me.

I got to know this in February and this shifting and rarity maybe profitable for businesses and traders but ***** for consumers like myself especially if it exceeds my limit.

If you simply ignore it then as far as you are concerned there will be no discernable change.

If you simply ignore it then as far as you are concerned there will be no discernable change.

I can't understand what do you mean by that recognizable change?
I should just be able to get the shows thats most important and I'll do whatever possible to get it and I'll buy it asap on release date.
If price increases later in Dolz amount after I buy thats a different story.

I should just be able to get the shows thats most important and I'll do whatever possible to get it and I'll buy it asap on release date.

You will still be able to buy exactly as many new shows each week via the normal purchase of credits - just as yu have been able to do since you first joined. The NFT shows are a different set of shows.

The NFT shows are a different set of shows.

I already expect NFT Dolz shows to be at higher price, yet I have to see if it exceeds my limit or not since I won't want to miss those outfits(NFT Dolz).
I will stop when its clear if it will definitely exceed my limit or at extreme high prices.

It doesn't seem like they are investing a lot of resources into it though, basically cut a standard show from the lineup and give it as a bonus. Of course supply and demand will work it out. If people want the bonus content they will pay a lot. I can't imagine the trade value will be super great for istripper cards as there aren't really super-starlets any more in porn,. Might have worked with girls like Viola, Nekane, and Lucy li. My ignorance tells me that the tradability only really works with super-celebrities like athletes who have millions of followers. Istripper seems too limited in scope. Rex is constantly innovating so this is just another one of his projects, and maybe it will allow them to shoot some content in America again.

It is true that the weekly output of shows might not change but there will be shows from girls that will not be available anymore.

Assuming Dolz is just another type of exclusive card then this is correct; content produced will be lost to Dolz as it has been to the exclusive cards (now called SEC). If you judge your loss based on the number of shows delivered to IS .. then have at it .. you lost nothing.

But if content is redirected to exclusive cards wether it be SEC, Dolz, or whatever to suck money from desperate people with more dollars than cents than I do feel I have lost something, Getting 7 shows a week doesn't change that for me; if those additional shows had been made available on IS then IS would be a better product and calling it a different brand doesn't change that.

That said the question remains, Is the content lost if Dolz is lost? I wish Totem the greatest success but I think Dolz will be discontinued the same as the IS naming sake the iPod or more likely the same as iDancer. I've not even heard any of the Totem 'yes' men showing any enthusiasm which doesn't bode well in y mind.

I don't have a lot of experience with NFTs but in my understanding you actually own it unlike IS where you license it. I think you can make an unlimited number of an item and sell each one individually. As far as I understand there would be nothing that preludes Totem from taking an existing IS show bundling it up and selling it as an NFT so now you own it vs renting it. I guess thinking about it if the cards depreciate enough I might consider buying one but still not sure I want to get involved in crypto wallets or a second IS product.

Of course this brings up the question of how to you play your NFT if Dolz goes away which of course is the same risk you take with IS. NFTs are again owned and can be sold or traded so I assume they are using blockchain to determine which shows are playable.

All this is interesting but back to the point ... content. From what I see some of the most anticipated shows are going to Dolz. I assume this will only get worse as they try and build an audience; it will continue to get worse if they get more desperate to build a base. And if Dolz pops the'll drive even more premium content to cash in, so either way I expect Dolz to suck IS quality content (not the quantity) for the foreseeable future.

I'm waiting for covid to pass and I'm stuck at home with too much time on my hands so just to be clear I'm OK with Totem doing whatever they want; I stopped worry about cards I cant buy a long time ago. I will admit that I disappointed at least one of the Christy duos (Christy doesn't have much out there) and Melody Mark cards are off the table but my real concern is Dolz is going to lessen IS quality much more than the original exclusive cards did. Disney, NBA, Topps are creating NTF that augment their content not replace it .. just saying :)

Opensea NFTs mean nothing to me but Istripper x dolz NFTs mean a lot to me since I won't want to miss those shows in those particular outfits.
If I could really ignore it, I won't be even bothered to talk about it.

I consider dolz and istripper shows same even if everybody else considers it different and accepting if I will never get the shows is last thing I want to do.

@orclover: (...), basically cut a standard show from the lineup and give it as a bonus. (...)

The above quote is almost true. One of the six shows recorded by the time when model is in the studio goes to Dolz collection. I said "almost", because I wouldn't call it "a bonus". "Bonus" is something free and the Dolz shows will not be for free.

@dar2112v: That said the question remains, Is the content lost if Dolz is lost?

Now the question sounds differently than the first one in your opening post.

My personal opinion about NFTs in general: I am amused by all this advertising of the NFT as an investment. Calling the NFT an "investment" that can bring you a profit. I can already see how collectors, excited when seeing a new NFT coming up, will buy it only to sell it for a profit. Yea, right. They will overpay for that NFT and keep it only for the sake of having it. That means: "mooo monney for the companney" (however it is pronounced). Even if you want to buy NFT to sell it later, you will overpay at the start, and then you have to look for another fool who is willing to overpay even more.

The above was my opinion about NFTs in general. What about Dolz NFTs? I see the Dolz shows same as the SEC shows, but their price will be much higher. Oh, right, and there is letter "g" before the number, instead of "e" or "f".

Those who are really interested in Dolz cards, should take a look at the whitepaper available at www.dolz.io
You can find there some interesting things, for example:

Unlock unique advantages on iStripper.com:

• Exclusive shows/cards and content: DOLZ will be launching a limited edition, NFT strip-shows collection on the software, only accessible to DOLZ holders. These NFTs will give you the ability to unlock ulta-rare strip-shows.
• Discounts.
• Previews on the desktop software, mobile interactive app, and VR shows.
• Unique software skins.
• Unique card skins.

or this one:

NFT marketplace (secondary market):

• The place to trade, buy and sell your NFTs from all Dolz collections.
• Sell your NFTs to earn DOLZ or crypto assets as USDT, ETH, BNB.
• Instead of buying mystery boxes, you can directly buy the NFT you like from other users.

There are other interesting things:
• VR museum (your personal NFT collection showroom) - a place where he can show off his most prized NFTs. In other words: a virtual place where you can brag to your friends... if you have any, and you don't mind that they know you're spending time and money on iStripper and VR Paradise.
• farm NFTs - earn BabyDolz (the DOLZ reward currency; non-tradable tokens) by using the Dolz games and apps and use them to unlock mystery boxes containing unique NFTs from different collections. Mystery boxes? Sounds like "Loot boxes". You know what it is? No? Go to Google and check.
• Fan token - Dolz fan tokens give you the power to influence decisions of your favorite games and apps. DOLZ holders have different rights based on the token staking they hold. Holders with more tokens will have more power when participating in the governance of the platform. In another words: spend thousands of dollars and maybe you will have the impact on what outfit your favorite model will wear in the next show :D

And if you want to know what's special in the "g" series, you will find this:

Stripper NFT trading cards will contain the same type of iStripper shows as the current ones but presented as numbered cards, and with varying degrees of rarity.

Surprised?

iStripper users will be able to sell, exchange, and buy them on the DOLZ.io marketplace using the $DOLZ token.

Well, ok, but what will be the price of single show?

Our studio has already started filming 1 more show every week for the “DOLZ X iStripper” collection only. (8th card by week

Really? That's something new.

You should really read the whitepaper to learn more. It have plenty of interesting informations.

you will overpay at the start

I can't understand anything in whitepaper.
All my question is if single show is around 1000$-10000$ even at start?

I'm already expecting secondary market prices to be extreme above that much amount.
It's a life and death situation for me since those who scolded me to stay away from girls during my teenage years will be proved right.
I'll sleep forever if that happens.

Soyez sérieux, si vous voulez dépenser une telle somme pour un spectacle vidéo de 30-40 minutes, je vous suggère de les utiliser pour une rencontre réelle et charnelle bien plus enrichissante.

Seriously, if you want to spend that much money on a 30-40 minute video show, I suggest you use it for a much more rewarding real and carnal encounter.

I can't understand anything in whitepaper.

If you genuinely do not understand what has been said in the white paper and what you have gleaned from the questions you have asked (and all the other input from the likes of @lukaszr), then I would seriously suggest you keep away from Dolz.

There are plenty of beautiful girls in great shows available in the normal iStripper franchise - and you don't own most of those yet. Don't be infatuated with one model - you will only ever be disappointed if you take that approach.

Soyez sérieux, si vous voulez dépenser une telle somme pour un spectacle vidéo de 30-40 minutes, je vous suggère de les utiliser pour une rencontre réelle et charnelle bien plus enrichissante.

Sur le plan humain, c'est fort à propos.👍

Sur ce type de marketplace je pense qu'on est plus sur du trading que sur de l'érotisme. Moi ça me pose aucun problème et puis tant mieux pour ceux que ça intéresse.

@orclover: (...), basically cut a standard show from the lineup and give it as a bonus. (...)
The above quote is almost true. One of the six shows recorded by the time when model is in the studio goes to Dolz collection. I said "almost", because I wouldn't call it "a bonus". "Bonus" is something free and the Dolz shows will not be for free.

My impression of NFTs are that you are buying a limited position on a blockchain, and they are giving you a bonus show. And that is the language they use. Effectively you are investing in istripper blockchain and they "give" you a show for that position. I would be wary on investing in something like blockchains that apparently use a huge amount of energy, as energy is becoming more expensive and not less...ie..climate change, war over resources. Especially in Europe that is so dependent on imported energy in many cases.

Let them earn some profit and let them succeed still they shouldn't be so ***** to charge 1000-10000$ per show or even millions.

LOL ... Maybe they should try for a million; plenty of less attractive NFTs are going for that and more.

I did glance at the white paper and while I cant say it was clear to me but here are a few things I got from it. In Random order:

Buy in is $500 early then $250 so I would assume shows are going to start at $250 .. just my guess.

There is reference to iStripper crossover but this falls into the part I don't understand .. so no clue what that looks like.

Looks like they are starting with $20 million in Dolz tokens. ( I don't know enough about tokens to say whether $20m is backed or just made up .. I suspect just made up)

Looks like the team will get 8% ($1.6 million) over time - (this seems like a nice incentive and well deserved IMHO)

There is reference to a 'Marketplace' but also buying directly from others.

Content creators (skins, etc) can sell there where in the market place (I suggested this years ago)

There is reference to Etherum and Tether so I assume you could convert your Dolz to cash via one of those.

Thats all that I can think of but nothing to answer whats to become of the content; I guess it depends on the crossover


The most interesting thing to me is valuation; as a show gets older it should lose value (become less desired) so will the shows become cheaper or be artificially inflated in the marketplace or through fees. What about fees? There is no mention of totem taking a fee in the marketplace or in 'direct' transaction. I assume totem will take a cut as they should but how much of a cut.

I don't see myself participating unless I can buy shows for what I think they are worth [to me] but I have to admit its been interesting.