That is about refunds...
Yes. In the same way that poker chips have no monetary value outside their casino and bank notes have no monetary value outside their country of origin. Inside of iStripper though, they have an equivalent value... and are used as virtual currency.

This is an argument you should be having with Totem. It's their T&C's only they can say if their currency system is worth the money you pay or not!

Any more hammers looking to weigh in? ;)

I've been avoiding joining this discussion, but here I go.

1. Various governments regulate something they call gambling. They each define it as they please. Some of the TGIF games may be considered gambling by some governments. I suspect it is not gambling to most governments.

2. People pay games of chance which are games where the outcome is to some extent dependent of random events. To me most of the TGIF games are games of chance. Chess is not a game of chance. Roulette is a "pure" game of chance where the outcome is entirely determined by random events. Poker is a game of chance, but the long-term outcome is determined more by skill than by chance.

3. People who create games of chance build in some probability of wining. While there may not be a legal obligation to do so, revealing that probability is ethical behavior.

4. I think Totem should provide enough information about its games so that customers can determine the probability of winning.

I've studied probability and statistics at graduate school and I've created stochastic simulations with are essentially games of chance with an educational rather than a profit motive.

From the terms and conditions that we all agreed to (sorry for the capital letters, that is how this sentence appears is in the T&C's so Totem seem to want to particularly emphasise it though I have added the bold highlightiing)

YOU FURTHER ACKNOWLEDGE AND AGREE THAT THE CREDIT SYSTEM HAVE NO MONETARY VALUE AND CANNOT BE REDEEMED FOR CASH. NO REFUNDS WILL BE MADE FOR THE PURCHASE OF CREDITS.

Just use the text Filter box

type in the Name ***** O Fee
then all of her cards will be displayed.
you can do this in the Store Tab as well as My Collection Tab
to clear the filter, click the X

sorry I had to remove the images...

***** O Fee's cards:
e0757
e0758
e0759
e0760
e0761
f0222

Can I move for a nice, long adjournment your honor? ;)

Credits, which is a credit system that operates like virtual currency

It operates LIKE virtual currency. In any case, important word is "virtual". Which means "not real-life"...
Moreover, as you can see on T&C, using money you purchase credits but using credits you just get licensed to play the content, you don't buy nor own it

From the Totem T&C's;

Iv. Ownership...

... If you have a valid, active Account, you may purchase Credits, which is a credit system that operates like virtual currency ("Credits") used to license Product Content that can be downloaded and watched while using the Product. Credits can be purchased online through the in-Product "Reload Your Account" section.

The important words here are "virtual currency". :)

I am just trying to explain that there is not any money gamble here. Since credits are not money.

So you're trying to claim that Totem is more like a corner shop selling marbles than a software company selling surprise mechanics? ;)

Thank you for the heads up!

Ok,
spent 400 credits, earned 180 from the system. Got 7 cards, 6 of them 720p. All in all ***** about 140 credits, that would be 8 new cards - but there are not 8 cards that I REALLY want to have. Was only in for the Melena card and missed it, but I don’t *****.
If you play you may loose. That’s how it goes, and everybody knows.
Now hoping for the Joker. Let's see what's up tomorrow.

Totem doesn't invite half the world to play online to win any money.
I am precisely saying that Totem's gambling games are like N.2, not N.1. It's not playing online for money. Credits - with which you play such games here - are not money, and they are more comparable to marbles than to poker chips, since when you have credits you may NOT change them into money.
Only money transaction between Istripper members and Totem is when one of us buys credits. On Istripper, cards acquisition, slot machine, scratch cards etc. are not money transactions.

Well, that's not the best comparison I've ever seen. Poker chips have a face value and are considered a type of currency while marbles are only good for glass recycling.

N.1 is a licensed gaming establishment. You play legal gambling games on premises so you are covered by gambling, gaming and trading standards law, possibly along with a host of other small legal constituencies. Totem has a whole load of these in their T&C's as they are a trading company.

N.2 you are still covered by trading standards when you buy your marbles, the moment you open them and start throwing them around you are no longer covered. The receipt is a legal bill of sale. So long as you are just playing with friends in a private establishment you are not breaking any laws. When you try to start inviting half the world to play online for money, you might be in legal hot water.

If you start loosing your marbles you still cannot claim they were all faulty and return them... :)

I am against slot machines, scratch games, exclusive cards and such promos too.
But we can not say that Totem does money gamble.

1 - If I go to casino, change some money into casino chips, I play games and then I convert winnings back in money, it's money gamble.
2 - If with my money I buy a bunch of marbles, I play with friends and create a marble gamble game in which participating people can win more of them, I can not go to shop then and get money back in exchange of my recently won marbles, neither of ones I bought at first. Marbles were bought for real money, but a gamble game then done with those marbles is NOT, and never could be, a money gamble.

Istripper gamble games are comparable to case n. 2. You play with Istripper credits, which are not money, and can never be converted in money after being bought, or being won. So, on Istripper it's not money gamble.

Na, althou it use ta...could be again

...

318 tickets to get Melena. If it wasn't her, I doubt I would've participated. I have done it in the past and happened to get all the special event cards, but this was just a grind now and I end up with all the cards I did not want to purchase. I guess I could've waited for a Joker card, but that's not even guaranteed if I understand correctly.

Traducir: "Translation is not available for the moment" always?
where are you? bum shortcut

the fact that there is no card picture.

In each Data folder
you can Make your Own card picture.
Example if the card is e0125
then in the data folder e0125
make a picture and save it as e0125_custom.jpg
the size should be 162 wide x 242 tall

Now, when you Next start iStripper that card will have the custom picture you made for it.

@R2D34ever2

I have a folder on an external hard drive created especially to hold a copy of the data and model folders for the now removed cards. When I reformat or reinstall I copy that folder contents back to the main folder. The fact you own the cards should be held in your account information so they will show up with blank cards but they will be playable.

any tips how to make sure that will not losse the six shows I have after a reinstal of iStripper or some other "accident"??I had problems before that made shows disappear I really did not want to loose...

@R2D34ever2
Make a backup of your collection (Models folder), especially the cards removed from the store. It's the only and sure way to not lose anything.

The only cards since I reggiestered in Dev 2013 that dissappeared were those of Prscilla Jones when she took up body building full time, and I believe Totem reimbursed us for these. Alyzee is still in my collection albeit only recognised by the code and the fact that there is no card picture. The other girls cards remain in my collection unaltered.

The finest combination of beauty, grace, dancing, pole skills, and performance in one card.

Angelika Grays' last card was a bit of a revelation, wasn't it? A completely different style from her first card and, as somebody said in the comments, a masterclass in striptease. The best card in ages and an instant favourite.

Simplest way to describe it is as a raffle, every scratch card bought gives you 1 chance of winning a Joker card, same as a raffle the more cards you buy the more chances you have,

Totem, seriously
you giving away only 50 joker cards out of what total of tickets? 10,000 ? 15,000? 20,000? 50,000?

Joker card giveaway?? I rather call it giveaway joke!!!!

Totem, why don't you automatically giveaway 1 joker card if a customer reaches a certain number of tickets, say 50 or 100, you name it. At least, you giving a pathway to customer that they can still win those elusive special event cards.

. She purchased 100 tickets and she did win some stuff. 1 SEC, 14 regular cards 50 credits X 3, and 10 credits X 43.

wait, bought 100 tickets and came out with 580 credits?

50 x 3 = 150
10 x 43 = 430

150 + 430 = 580

Really? i want your wifes luck too lol

oh wait, 100 tickets, meaning 1000 credits, nevermind me lol

My wife decided to gamble on my account while I was at work. She did not know I did not want to play the scratchoff game. She purchased 100 tickets and she did win some stuff. 1 SEC, 14 regular cards 50 credits X 3, and 10 credits X 43.
Results are 28 credits per card when SEC card is included against what was spent. Not bad I guess, my luck is not that good.

You’ve been doing a lot of coming behind others with zero facts just to throw turds at Totem for a while now. It has been noted. Not by me alone either.

@hab
Did you tell my mother I'm buying porn? Should I be afraid of something else? Or someone else? Who has noted my unwelcomed behavior?

As far a zero facts I suspect we have the same number of facts which is more than zero but far less then all of facts but I am wondering what fact or facts you think I got wrong?

Throwing 'turds' was certianly NOT my intention. No, just stating facts and my opions; if you dissagree with anything I've said feel free to correct me but the facts are facts and my opions are my right to have. You are under no obligation to agree but it doesn't change the facts nor my opinions.

If it is against the rules to state the facts or have an opinion that disagrees with yours then jusy say so and I'll try and choose my words more carefully. In any case, I'm not looking to get into it with anyone whether be you or whomever the mysterious watcher might be? Lets just say we agreee to disagree but underhanded threats are unwelcome and poor practice.

I got another complaint about these scratch off promotions (on top of all the other ones already here). I have won all the special event cards from this event and past ones, so why is it that since I can't win anymore special event cards, it still shows up as a prize when i scratch the card, which means I automatically lose because there are NO MORE SPECIAL EVENT CARDS!! Couldnt you have coded the game to give alternate prize for such instances...like extra credits for winning or something. Its a fucking rip-off to be honest and an oversight I can't believe no one has addressed at Totem, its kind of one of those things you think about when designing the game, like common sense. So.....what the *****? Can you fix this or will it go ignored?

Nice legs! :)

The attached images are all from special event cards and show no particularly unique costuming features.

You are right, my bad. Aside from the red fox, and the new current one, they dont feel especially special. There arew unique costumes and features in some, which is not the same as saying they are all very unique or at all special,

More like, creating a false value and allure for otherwise normal cards. Special Occasions celebrate an occasion. Special events celebrate spending money!

I won a card that I have already deleted!? anyone can help?

Deleting a card as i understand it doesnt remove it from your collection, its there still to download it,. only way to remove a card from your collection is contact support, and ask them to refund you and remove the card, which they might even do

But i am unsure exactly what you mean, copuld you please provide more details.

@orclover

This sounds like a fair and equitable method to obtain promotional cards, special rare copntent that also increases the profit and percieved value of these cards

Ideas like this are a good thing.

2. I do not feel bad for anybody else who played the game. You went in willingly with the goal of getting something for nothing, getting credits or free cards or a free special edition card, and you lost or won. That is gambling.

But thats untrue, when gambling was the only method to get it. and :somethign for nothing:, even if you get your card you wanted, first try, its still 10 credits.

1. I feel really bad for collectors. This promotion does provide a chance at credits but trading credits for credits with a guarentee to lose credits and still not getting the special edition card is a bad move for totem.

2. I do not feel bad for anybody else who played the game. You went in willingly with the goal of getting something for nothing, getting credits or free cards or a free special edition card, and you lost or won. That is gambling.

@celine

Here is a solution:

The next promotion should work "kind of" like ebay. Have a "buy it now price" of 100 credits that starts on day 1 of the promotion. Also provide a scratch card game that gives a percent chance of winning the card. Every time a person wins the special event card in the scratch game the "buy it now" price increases by 1%. This means that collectors need to make a quick decision to buy at a "low" price :), but the gamblers can still scratch to win free credits or the special event card. This will also give a rough estimate of how easy it is to win the special event card for the astute which might drive more people to gamble. Then on the final day all people who received the special event card will be put into a lottery to win the final price of the buy it now card in credits. So if the buy it now price is 1000 credits all partakers will have a chance to make that back. But just one. THe current game is really disrespectful to full collection buyers and a little ***** of gamblers. It certainly makes totem appear less savory in the moral category. Something that is surprisengly important when it comes to buying porn. Many people feel vulnerable when paying for porn. What do I do if the product doesn't work? What do I do if they take my money? Totem has been one of the most upstanding companies I have ever done business with...this particular promotion doesn't support that opinion.

any tips how to make sure that will not losse the six shows I have after a reinstal of iStripper or some other "accident"??
I had problems before that made shows disappear I really did not want to loose...

For whatever it is worth, I've been a customer from your beginning. I do NOT like not being able to purchase the cards, and I do not approve of the gambling requirement. Respectfully, you need to reconsider how you're making these bonus cards available for good, long-term customers, who are not impressed with your approach.

@celine

it means you have 100 chances to win a joker card... and to exchange your joker card for Malena's special event one :)

No, it doesn't. The chance (at least how it's worded) is 100/(total number of tickets) * 50. Marginal.

Can this gambling app share with users odds of wining special event card? Or you are going to go EA style and just let us guess?
I already accepted the fact that my collection will be short of 4 cards (I'm done with gambling in here), but perhaps it will help others gave up on it.

Oh wait, that's the opposite of what you want people to do... Never mind me asking. Keep repeating half-truths and instruct people how to waste more money on gambling.

And there I was, thinking this is erotic app. Silly me. My main problem is that as one of collectors already said: my promise to give up on this product is not going to change anybodys mind. First of all: I probably won't because of awesome girls featured here. And more importantly: I'm not good asset, I was already milked enough. And money >>> happy customer.

Kind if sad...she has some very hard stuff on the internet that has disemminated widely. Strange that she would remove the most softcore content that is hidden behind software and payment. I think it would be worth it to totem to pay her a royalty to change her name. The chances that a person has downloaded the software, bought her cards, and can tie the dancer to her in public seems small...especially if the name doesn't connect to any other content online.

and i was hoping this lovely lady would make a Take2 😍

OMG, Angelika Grays "After Midnight"!
As I said in comments on this card, this is the new Gold Standard, the best iStripper card ever!

👍👍👍

The finest combination of beauty, grace, dancing, pole skills, and performance in one card.

👍👍👍

OMG, Angelika Grays "After Midnight"!

As I said in comments on this card, this is the new Gold Standard, the best iStripper card ever!

The pictures, as beautiful as they are, cannot do this girl justice, as she has to be seen in movement.

The finest combination of beauty, grace, dancing, pole skills, and performance in one card.

I can't wait to see what she does in her other four cards (her HollyBoobs cosplay was 1960's perfection)!😍

congratulations @POPEYED !!👍

@celine

Thanks for the information so that members can ensure that they have everything downloaded and/or backed up.

However, in the future, would it be possible to give members more notice in case they cannot access their computer through being on holiday etc.

@dar
You’ve been doing a lot of coming behind others with zero facts just to throw turds at Totem for a while now. It has been noted. Not by me alone either.

See, im sure no one cares, im just one member, and my loss to totem will be exactly nothing really, im just one person. Bit i hionestly feel i should just uinstall thios software again, and forget about it. I did exactly that over a period of 2 years. when i started too experince quality of life degredation due toi my obsessive behavour, got too spend more and more too have them medels, all of them. You have to either have an addiction, or know someone whos facing an addiction to understand, to get it, too others im just a stupoid idiot who has no common sence.. But addictive behavour dont work that way. One very inconsiderate and rude member decided to call me these things, while im not a vendictive person i still dotn feel that right, kicking someone when they are down out of pure ignorance.

After a break, gaining perspective and help from Gambling support groups, and a handle on my problem, i came back, with money, lots of it, i was willing, and comfortable to spend catching up on collection, after which i quite successfuly maintained a subcription of sorts, an allowance of 30usd every two weeks, too pay for any upcoming cards. That means nothign to anyone im sure, but too me it was a triumph over my very real problems. Then totem months and months later started with the slot machines, that was a test, fine i wont ven look at any of the "shopping" or "news" tabs over the weekend. I am fine with that, honesly dodnt even open the client very often, but now these gamblking tabs are there ALL the time, they dont go away. And the only way to get this new card is by gambling. as i said, i should just unistall the software, that i enjoy very much, and have doen so very good at controlling my urges.. buit now i feel i am in danger again

I am, sure people with think im just a stupid idiot with no commonsence. but thats just not how addictiove personality disorders work. Its really not. and i thank everyone who does not make value judgments, or personal attcks against me over this.

I wont even bring this up again. last i will say

but they couldn't even figure out a proper model release!

Totem does not research anything as far as I can tell.

Is it legal ? .. I don't know, I seriously doubt any member here knows, and I'm pretty sure Totem doesn't know and probably wont care until lawyers or other authorities are involved.

Seriously??? ALL of your above statements are total speculation based on NOTHING!!! Scare-mongering yet again.
I feel so sad when I read statements like these here.

Get your FREAKING FACTS straight first. ALL of you! GGGRRRRR!!!

I won a card that I have already deleted!? anyone can help?

Totem did all the proper research to make sure everything is on the up & up.

LOL! I love IS and support Totem but they couldn't even figure out a proper model release! Not good when you are in the porn biz.

Totem does not research anything as far as I can tell. This is a cash grab the same as a video poker machine and feeds off the same mindset; winners happily tell you about their big win because they have already forgotten their countless losses.

Is it legal ? .. I don't know, I seriously doubt any member here knows, and I'm pretty sure Totem doesn't know and probably wont care until lawyers or other authorities are involved. Laws vary by countries and community it may be legal in some and illegal in others. Laws are general in place to protect the weak but honestly I'm not sure those protections are needed here. I know that in the gaming biz 'loot boxes' are under pressure but on IS this seems more like the 'pay to win' games.

BTW I'm referring to the gambling (scratch/ lottery, slots, etc); I have no clue what the Joker thing is but assume its related to the gambling. And while I do play video games I don't play the "pay to win" games nor do I bother with loot boxes much.

You’re all talking to a brick wall when trying to say the games are illegal.

Illegal, no, not currently. Morality however is another matter

im, sure totem did its reaseach. crossed all T's and dotted all the i's,

I'm sure they did.

doesnt mean its not a crappy way to make money.

I tend to agree. ;)

Even Edward Thatch must have been a polite, young man in his youth...

im, sure totem did its reaseach. crossed all T's and dotted all the i's, doesnt mean its not a crappy way to make money.

and as someone with self confessed gambling addiction issues, it sure FEELS exploitative. scratch cards where NOT a thing only a 2 years ago, then they were introduced each weedend only, and they have been running all week long since.

Totem are definately testing the waters on this lucrative new way to sell cards, and its demonstarably grown in scope over a very short time.

Tell me im wrong, tell me scrtach cards and slot mashines have ALWAYS vbeen in VG and istripper, and tell me that have not become a weekly long thing, tell me im wrong!

I dont ***** get why some people have chosen to attack me, like is some kind of vendetta? belittling me, in sulting me, calling me dumb, Wioth thois kind of paywall holding new cards hiostage, discluding many members from obtaining them being so obvious, yet speaking out and wanting this too stop only benefits EVERYONE allowing a clear pathway to obtaining vewry single new card released. why attck me over wanting that? its certainly doesnt hinder anyone too have fair access too the entirety of the software we are eager too support!