Mobile Sub. is a good feature for all new member. ~3 mobile shows /week. 12 / month.
But a punch in ya face for all old member wo already have 50-100% of the mobile/desktop shows.
They paid twice.
thats suck.
i personaly, delete the app (after 30 days free)

Perso je n'utilise pas la version mobile afin de préserver la batterie et aussi pour ne pas passer tout mon temps devant des animations de danseuses.

La vie c'est un peu plus que ça. 😆

Pareil : comme l'a dit quelqu'un d'autre au-dessus, la plupart du temps, iStripper tourne pendant que je fais autre chose, et j'y jette un coup d'oeil de temps en temps. Sur téléphone, ce ne serait pas la même utilisation, et ça ne m'intéresse pas trop.

Regardez autour de vous: il y a de moins en moins de services gratuits même les réseaux sociaux risquent d'y passer.

Je croise les doigts pour qu'il en soit effectivement ainsi : ce serait une bénédiction pour nos sociétés, de plus en plus abruties par les réseaux sociaux.

Ouvrez vos wallets les gars et soyez généreux !!!😎

Être généreux ? Euh... Totem est une entreprise qui offre des services. On souscrit à ces services suivant l'utilité qu'on y trouve. Quel rapport avec la générosité ? Ce n'est pas une association caritative !

Être généreux ? Euh... Totem est une entreprise qui offre des services. On souscrit à ces services suivant l'utilité qu'on y trouve. Quel rapport avec la générosité ? Ce n'est pas une association caritative !

Quid de la générosité?
Une lecture au second degré aurait été la bien venue, c'était une forme d'humour qui essayait de circuler à contre-courant, de renverser la vapeur et réchauffer ainsi toute cette négativité mal à propos.

Être généreux ? Euh... Totem est une entreprise qui offre des services. On souscrit à ces services suivant l'utilité qu'on y trouve.Quel rapport avec la générosité ? Ce n'est pas une association caritative !

C'est justement une dérive du terme "offre" qui pose débat ici pour les non-initiés aux règles du commerce, iStripper "vend" des services...

Haaa! Il y a des dangers à circuler à contre-courant , tu vois, surtout en solitaire @Sexy3DBoy 😄

This is a terrible business model. I pay for Gamepass so i can play a game on either my PC or the Xbox. This sets your customer base to use one platform or the other. It is poor practice to double dip in a current global economic downturn...Shame. I guess I will be deleting the mobile platform now.

Haaa! Il y a des dangers à circuler à contre-courant , tu vois, surtout en solitaire @Sexy3DBoy 😄

Le contre-courant est plus efficace que le co-courant: cela se démontre par la mesure dans le monde des sciences.

Effectivement il y a des dangers à confondre solitaire à solidaire nous sommes bien d'accord.

@Philours et @Sexy3DBoy
Merci de rester dans le sujet 😎

I guess I will be deleting the mobile platform now.

to Clarify for Members who have not yet used the Mobile Website.

There is nothing to delete for Mobile.
There is No App to Install for Mobile.

It is strictly a web site, opened in your Browser.
No App, No Installation, Just browse to a Website.

https://mobile.istripper.com

@Philours et @Sexy3DBoy
Merci de rester dans le sujet

C'est fort à propos et vraisemblablement dû au caractère un peu trop sanguin de @ComteDracula.😊

@Philours et @Sexy3DBoy
Merci de rester dans le sujet
C'est fort à propos et vraisemblablement dû au caractère un peu trop sanguin de @ComteDracula.😊

Qui me dérange ? Je n'aime pas me faire interrompre lorsque j'aiguise mes crocs.

Alors oui, un peu de discipline ici. @Sexy3DBoy, sortez de la classe. Vous allez me copier sang fois : « le @ComteDracula a sang pour sang raison», et surtout sang rouspétage. @Philours, je laisse passer cette fois-ci. 😊

But why should I subscribe to the shows... I bought all the shows available so far... Why should I pay for them again...? I don't understand that unfortunately... Why isn't there the possibility for the owners of the shows to see them. I see this as a disadvantage and also as a rip off. I don't pay twice. A really bad move...😠😠😠😠😠😠😠😖😖😖😖😖

@Evolver1980, and others

What almost everyone (including myself) seems to have forgotten is that until now the mobile streaming site was a beta test version, which is why it was free. I can't find the original announcement and, as was never interrested in it anyway, I don't know whether that was mentioned on the site itself but a web search finds several articles refering to as a beta version,

I can't find the original announcement

https://www.istripper.com/forum/thread/45168/1

Tutto su iStripper / iStripper mobile is online - EDITED on Sept. 30, 2020

Dear All, We are very happy to announce that iStripper is now available on mobile, in BETA version. It is a different and funny way to recover istripper shows on mobile This Beta has approx. 30 shows...

For the current price of 3 mobile shows, you will get unlimited access to all our shows, photos, and videos.Thanks to lukaszr for this quote.To me, this means i will no longer use the mobile app and ALSO have concerns about buying shows for my desktop. If Totem can change the rules for one...they might change the rules for another. Honestly, I seldom used the mobile app anyway...but I do have grave concerns about the entire Totem ecosystem.

Same here. I bought mobile shows on mobile that I could also use on desktop and desktop only shows when I had opened my PC, which I only do for some work and gaming.

I have bought nearly 600 shows alltogether and I strongly consider to not add any more credits. If they can take away "bought" shows on mobile they can do so on desktop if the test is successful. No. Simply no.

Normally I refrain from subscription software except maybe for antivirus when the Microsoft product was insufficient. I stuck to Office for a long time. I only subscribed to Microsoft 365 because 6 TB of storage for a bargain.

There could have been another way:

You can no longer buy new shows for mobile, you can only buy them for desktop. But all already purchased shows are available for desktop and mobile if they where mobile then.

I am still a DynDNS member for no additional costs because I charited a one time fee 20 years ago when they were still non-commercial. I still own office programs I bought years ago. My purchased music is still my music. The car sharing I use gave me a special discount because I entered when they were cheaper.

But the way iStripper went about my purchases and the spent money to me is a sign that they can void their side of the bargain at any time for any reason.

For the current price of 3 mobile shows, you will get unlimited access to all our shows, photos, and videos.Thanks to lukaszr for this quote.To me, this means i will no longer use the mobile app and ALSO have concerns about buying shows for my desktop. If Totem can change the rules for one...they might change the rules for another. Honestly, I seldom used the mobile app anyway...but I do have grave concerns about the entire Totem ecosystem.
Same here. I bought mobile shows on mobile that I could also use on desktop and desktop only shows when I had opened my PC, which I only do for some work and gaming.

I have bought nearly 600 shows alltogether and I strongly consider to not add any more credits. If they can take away "bought" shows on mobile they can do so on desktop if the test is successful. No. Simply no.

Normally I refrain from subscription software except maybe for antivirus when the Microsoft product was insufficient. I stuck to Office for a long time. I only subscribed to Microsoft 365 because 6 TB of storage for a bargain.

There could have been another way:

You can no longer buy new shows for mobile, you can only buy them for desktop. But all already purchased shows are available for desktop and mobile if they where mobile then.

I am still a DynDNS member for no additional costs because I charited a one time fee 20 years ago when they were still non-commercial. I still own office programs I bought years ago. My purchased music is still my music. The car sharing I use gave me a special discount because I entered when they were cheaper.

But the way iStripper went about my purchases and the spent money to me is a sign that they can void their side of the bargain at any time for any reason.

Makes a good point. Totem needs to address the reality that they apparently have no problem removing services that were previously offered and locking them behind additional paywalls. They could remove 3k service and require premium membership to download 4k, they could require sub to use the software at all. Why not just allow people to play bought cards on mobile and allow others to play all cards with sub? Seems like a poorly thoughtout plan, hopefully not a reaction to money lost because of NFT.

But the way iStripper went about my purchases and the spent money to me is a sign that they can void their side of the bargain at any time for any reason.

But did they "void their side of the contract" ? If the free version was indeed introduced as a beta test for a trial period then nothing has been voided - you were given a "free trial period" in exchange for acting as a tester of the program - something that seems to be quite a common practice. That you, and I, had forgotten that it was a beta test doesn't change things - only how we feel about them.

Now, I do think the price for the streaming service is high - but as I am not interrested in it even as a free service any price would be too high for me.

I found the original announcement- The BETA- yes, all caps- mobile site was introduced Sept 30 2020:

https://www.istripper.com/forum/thread/45168/1?_stoken=mobile&_sanchor=670775&_spage=1&_scat=22

Tutto su iStripper / iStripper mobile is online - EDITED on Sept. 30, 2020

Dear All, We are very happy to announce that iStripper is now available on mobile, in BETA version. It is a different and funny way to recover istripper shows on mobile This Beta has approx. 30 shows...

for a trial period

Or do you see this?

But the way iStripper went about my purchases and the spent money to me is a sign that they can void their side of the bargain at any time for any reason.
But did they "void their side of the contract" ? If the free version was indeed introduced as a beta test for a trial period then nothing has been voided - you were given a "free trial period" in exchange for acting as a tester of the program - something that seems to be quite a common practice. That you, and I, had forgotten that it was a beta test doesn't change things - only how we feel about them.

Now, I do think the price for the streaming service is high - but as I am not interrested in it even as a free service any price would be too high for me.

To me it is simple: I bought the card on mobile. To use on mobile and desktop. Beta does not void the purchased good in my view. I have seldomly seen anyone *buying* “beta” software or goods who does not get the final product.

But be it as it may. I will act according to my disappointment as a customer.

Customers are the centerpiece of any successful business, seems to me this decision will cost Totem more revenue from both platforms by driving away existing customers than it will possibly bring in from remaining customers. Popular streaming platforms are looking for ways to lower subsciption fees to keep already existing customers from leaving with the current world economic situation rather than putting already subscribed content behind further paywalls. If you ask me, I don't think this new mobile model will last in today's economy.

I don't think many people will leave due to this since there is no alternative to iStripper, that I know of. Should there be though, I'm pretty sure this move would have been a shot in the foot. I'm not an avid user of the mobile feature, but I liked the option to every now and then use it; this "decision" to change the "economic model" is strictly a way to get us to fork over more money. Many users are mainly mobile users and have been strictly using buying "mobile" cards, and now they have to pay more for content they already bought? I would be beyond livid.
If this decision had been made taking into account, even slightly, the consumers thoughts, they could at least offer to refund the "mobile cards" for credits to be used to but the damned "subscription".
At the end of the day, iStripper is just a company trying to make a profit, not an NGO for consumer rights. But like any business, I'd be wary of decisions/moves that antagonise big chunks of their clientele. Because, also, at the end of the day they are lucky for not having any real competition on this market... Yet?

@Philours

It's implicit in that it was a Beta version.

@echnaton192

You bought the right to play a card just as if you had bought it via the app or the normal web site, While the mobile site was in beta test you had the ability (not the right) to also stream the card. It is the streaming service that is now seperately payed for.

I do agree with you all that the change came as a bit of a shock, especially the price, But it was quite consistent with what Totem has said about the mobile site.

Whether the change, and again especially the price, was a wise decision is a different thing - one about which i am expressing no opinion.

As my first post ever, I would like to state that I do not think this is very smart and it makes me very sad :(

I don't think many people will leave due to this since there is no alternative to iStripper, that I know of. Should there be though, I'm pretty sure this move would have been a shot in the foot. I'm not an avid user of the mobile feature, but I liked the option to every now and then use it; this "decision" to change the "economic model" is strictly a way to get us to fork over more money. Many users are mainly mobile users and have been strictly using buying "mobile" cards, and now they have to pay more for content they already bought? I would be beyond livid.
If this decision had been made taking into account, even slightly, the consumers thoughts, they could at least offer to refund the "mobile cards" for credits to be used to but the damned "subscription".
At the end of the day, iStripper is just a company trying to make a profit, not an NGO for consumer rights. But like any business, I'd be wary of decisions/moves that antagonise big chunks of their clientele. Because, also, at the end of the day they are lucky for not having any real competition on this market... Yet?

There are plenty of alternatives if a pricey product is untrustworthy and flaunts the fact that the hundreds and thousands that customers spend is actually worthless and the product can be put behind a paywall at anytime, which is what they have clearly stated. They offer no protection nor promises. 98% of the girls are naked other places, sometimes their performances are better...it is a unique product but not that unique.

@masserect

... Many users are mainly mobile users and have been strictly using buying "mobile" cards ...

I'm curious Where do you get this data from, or is it just speculation?

So far, only Three members ( I have seen ) have expressed that they were ONLY Mobile users.

That was why I had asked for member to note how often they used the Desktop vs Mobile.

Yea... Im gonna pass on this, only reason i used the app was to view the cards i bought that happened to be mobile for my viewing pleasure on the go...

glad i can make more space on my phone cya.

@Evolver1980 , you're a desktop user, you have purchased all your shows from the software :) During the Beta phase of iStripper mobile, you had access to all the shows available on mobile at no cost :)

iStripper mobile is not intended to be free for ever... and it has found its audience with mobile only users who are pleased to now have access to ALL our catalog + 3 new releases per week + photos and videos + the VR180 vids soon, for the price of 3 mobile shows...

Une lecture au second degré aurait été la bien venue, c'était une forme d'humour qui essayait de circuler à contre-courant, de renverser la vapeur et réchauffer ainsi toute cette négativité mal à propos.

C'est donc bien une lecture au premier degré... Le second degré impliquerait un sens à l'opposé, ce qui n'est pas le cas. Et la négativité est simplement l'expression de désaccords, qui ne sont pas mal à propos : ce sont des désaccords. Rien de plus, rien de moins.

C'est justement une dérive du terme "offre" qui pose débat ici pour les non-initiés aux règles du commerce, iStripper "vend" des services...

C'est le terme technique : on parle de l'offre et de la demande. Le terme "offre" n'implique pas la gratuité, et il n'est pas nécessaire d'être spécialiste en commerce ou en économie pour le savoir, c'est de notoriété publique. Personne ne peut imaginer, dans le contexte où on parle ici, qu'il s'agit de services gratuits.

Et c'est justement parce que Totem "vend" ces services que les clients sont en droit de les critiquer ! S'il s'agissait de services gratuits, on se trouverait effectivement dans de la négativité gratuite, mais on se trouve exactement dans la situation opposée.

Il s'agirait donc d'arrêter d'être dans la négativité en parlant de négativité 😆

@Evolver1980 , you're a desktop user, you have purchased all your shows from the software :) During the Beta phase of iStripper mobile, you had access to all the shows available on mobile at no cost :)

iStripper mobile is not intended to be free for ever... and it has found its audience with mobile only users who are pleased to now have access to ALL our catalog + 3 new releases per week + photos and videos + the VR180 vids soon, for the price of 3 mobile shows...

But I DID purchase cards on mobile… not all of them, but many. I am not one of those excited people. But be it as it may. You did what you did and I will need to adjust my trust in the invested money accordingly.