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BAfsb
Inscrit en Mar 2009

329 message(s)
6 August 2009
Should those that do not display full nudity be deleted ?

The advertising and promotion of this site clearly says "Strippers on your Desktop".

To Strip means to go naked, not topless, FULLY NAKED.

In the United Kingdom we have what is called the "Trades Description Act" which this site is in clear contravention of.

The Act states that item descriptions MUST be accurate, if they aren't the purchaser has clearly laid down rights of recompense.

So Totem you have two choices if you want to remain within the UK law, either reword your logo to reflect the fact that some girls don't strip or delete those early "topless only" cards.

I would suspect that other countries such as the two Totem home states, France & the US, have similar laws.
Lowjoe
Inscrit en Jul 2008

174 message(s)
6 August 2009
Strippers in the past didn't go all the way,even in a closed club!They always did not show there pussy or even nipples.So your description that strippers must go all the way is not correct.
What happend in the past is the past.Better protest against the censuring of the pics today!Girls not showing pussy today is more relevant.
jununger
Inscrit en Oct 2007

1243 message(s)
6 August 2009 (edited)
To my knowledge there's only ONE topless card ever made for VGHD and that's Carol G - Bimboland (5) and as I understand it this is due to problems during the shoot and not a planned tactic by Totem. Also, this card is only 9 minutes long... compared with today's standard 30+ minutes.

So, to call on the UK Law to have it removed seams a bit drastic to me :)
Manjow
Inscrit en Mar 2009

90 message(s)
6 August 2009 (edited)
"I would suspect that other countries such as the two Totem home states, France & the US, have similar laws."
Of course there are similar laws in France, but two facts are for Totem :
  • "Strippers on your desktop" : You can see plenty of girls going fully naked, not all for sure, but enough to say the description of the site is accurate. "Strippers on your desktop" never mean that every girl must be fully naked in every clip.
  • In my dictionnary : Strip-tease : It's a show during which a girl get off her clothes. (Bad translation powered by myself).
There are no reference to "all" her clothes, neither to full frontal nudity. So on, according to this definition, a girl getting off her Tee-shirt beyond a caméra can be call a stripper.

It's "playing with the words" for sure, but that's what lawyers do all the time.
deputystar9
Inscrit en Jun 2008

12 message(s)
6 August 2009
It doesn't matter what the definition of strip means, the website strictly states that subscription includes a new girl every day with full nudity and 30+ min shows.

Now we all no that except for bimboland the nudity is true, but quite a few of the shows are below 20 mins.

Personally I'm not one to care too much, but If i did get the Bimboland card as my daily card i would be pissed.
pianogrinder
Inscrit en Apr 2008

466 message(s)
6 August 2009
Aw it's only one card, nobody buys that card anyways, and besides, there are over 500 other girls that have way better shows than Carol G. so if totem gets around to it, maybe they will delete it in the future hopefully.
BAfsb
Inscrit en Mar 2009

329 message(s)
6 August 2009
I was just asking the question!

I bought Card 5 Carol G Bimboland quite early on, there's no doubt that Carol G is an extremely attractive lady which was tempted me into buying the card, I was obviously surprised and disappointed that it was topless only and quite honestly I felt I was sold a pup.

If as people have said, Card 5 is the only card which does not feature full nudity then obviously there is no problem.

Now before I buy a card I do check pics and comments so the lesson was learned the hard way.
Ambler
Inscrit en Jun 2009

417 message(s)
6 August 2009
A nine minute card is a rip-off compared to the rest of the product line. Totem should really remove that card, or permanently lower its price to 1 ticket at most or possibly free. Someone who doesn't read the card overview would certainly be pissed. Note that the card is rated "topless", so at least Totem is being honest at that level.
titilate
Inscrit en Jan 2009

740 message(s)
6 August 2009
I like Carol G. and she has an awsome body and I am glad I read the reviews of Bimboland and did not download it because it sure sound like a rip.
raymondo64
Inscrit en Dec 2007

852 message(s)
6 August 2009
It's like calling your Internet service provider and the agent discovers your non connectivity is not based upon the modem, router, filters or area outages and they refer you over to their computer tech department without telling you about the $19.99 fee before transferring your call.

The customer, after holding for 5 to 20 minutes is transferred and only then informed by the computer tech of this charge.

The company I work for does not tolerate seeing it's customer's going through this type of aggrevation. Even though in this particular case, the customer still has time to opt out (after the so called sticker shock) while with Totem's case (concerning Bimboland) it's too late. You're stuck with a less than satisfactory card . . . ;(
gokuh306
Inscrit en Nov 2007

30 message(s)
7 August 2009 (edited)
Here, in the US, there are some topless only strip clubs.
You can truly play on the words here as well. It says memebership includes the full nudity show of every girl. Even if the one show is not full nudity, she has others that are and that can be twisted to meet the description.
I believe there may have also been a post in a topic a while back saying that that one being released was accidental.
deputystar9
Inscrit en Jun 2008

12 message(s)
7 August 2009
well if you wanna play around words then play around their statement that says "membership includes THE full nudity show of every girl automatically delivered to your desktop everyday...that's over 30 minutes of naked girls everyday"

It says that the full nudity shows will be delivered everyday-once again doesn't matter cuz only one show doesn't have full nudity

But they promise 30+ minute shows everyday and sometimes you get 20 minute shows.

Just pointing stuff out cuz as i said i don't care too much, some of the shows below 30 mins are good.
plasonic
Inscrit en Dec 2007

1325 message(s)
7 August 2009 (edited)
Carol G has an incredible buxom body & bounces her boobs freely in Bimboland. It's clearly marked and I got it for 1 tix.She does some hot thonged ass bendover & bobbles her tits a bit.Looks great in that corset rig & reminds me of a hot Bette Midler! The card downloads relatively quick for us dial uppers too. Combined with other big tit babes for a juggy focused wank session it works nicely with yer" big uns" fantasies.
Let's face it if Totem deleted it's early, non explicit even by today's softer standards,cards,it would lose too many babes.
I don't know how it works techy, but what if you wanted to retrieve a deleted card & it was removed from the available list? Lost forever?
So read others & be explicit in your comments.
Just think of Carol G. "Bimboland" as...er...the little Runt of the litter! Go pet her!
She does do what I wish ALL other big boobed babes would do, SHAKE AND BOBBLE THE HELL OUTA HER TITS!!
I know Carmen does this too.....Good girl!
Txmetalhead82K
Inscrit en May 2009

78 message(s)
7 August 2009 (edited)
Every strip tease show that I have attended (in the southern U.S.) had only topless women..they NEVER showed their pussy. You could pay more and maybe get a glimpse at it, (table dance) but usually the shows were topless only. I liked some of the shows. This was back in the early 90s, though, so shows might be diferent. I think it also had to do with the community I lived in.

BAfsb
Inscrit en Mar 2009

329 message(s)
7 August 2009
That's so typical of the U.S. though, it's a really mixed up country in pretty much every way. The U.S. has the biggest porn industry in the world and yet is unbelievably coy when it comes to sex, they make the pretence of being the number one civilised country in the world and yet they are no better than any other third world country when it comes to the way they treat their sick and poor.
Oquijan
Inscrit en May 2009

1536 message(s)
7 August 2009
@Txmetalhead82K Guess you visited the wrong spots. Last week i witnessed an amazing strip show involving an ice cube disappearing and appearing (;
Lowjoe
Inscrit en Jul 2008

174 message(s)
7 August 2009
Yeah,but that's just a normal magician trick,or not?
cdub87
Inscrit en Apr 2008

397 message(s)
7 August 2009
If im reading this right yall are all ***** about a 1 1/2+ old card that u have to go digging for to find. This is like going back to MS-Dos and ***** about why didn't it have a GUI. Its done and the card has been made.
shodan084
Inscrit en Dec 2007

1652 message(s)
7 August 2009
Besides, after digging through a wealth of legal documentation, it seems that strip tease also covers burlesque; 'the art of removing clothing to music' Barnes v. glen Theatre 501 US. 560. As no one stipulated how much clothing removed makes strip tease a strip tease, this card still qualifies.

The Defence Council rests your Honour...;)
pianogrinder
Inscrit en Apr 2008

466 message(s)
7 August 2009
Yeah it's only one little card, I don't know what the big fuss is about.
tiobruno57
Inscrit en Aug 2008

159 message(s)
8 August 2009
BAfsb, keep that in mind the next time London is being bombed. If you want to ***** a country, ***** your own. Not mine.
Lowjoe
Inscrit en Jul 2008

174 message(s)
8 August 2009
@tiobruno57
Typical reaction of a american!Can't see the falts in their own country.Me,i know the falts and mistakes of my own country and i am not saying the things you say.
deputystar9
Inscrit en Jun 2008

12 message(s)
8 August 2009
I've lived in Mexico for a few years, Spain for a year, and in England for a few years. I currently reside in the United States. My assessment:
  • People are not perfect anywhere, you find good people in the the least expected places and fucked up people everywhere.
  • Racism is the worst in Mexico, England and Spain are blunt about it, whereas the US tries to hide it.
  • The US has the most respect for the sick and the poor to the point it disgusts me. People in the US easily feel too sorry for any chum and bum. I get called an ass for having little pity when i see poor people because I first assume 99% of the time it's their fault and they messed up.
  • The US has a large porn Industry, but like to keep sex discreet in conversations involving both sexes, but amongst males it gets to the point that it bothers me and is very rude and i feel inappropriate. Outside of the US people are also very rude and gross making sexual jokes a good portion of inter-male conversation.
DIDGEDRUM
Inscrit en Mar 2008

2336 message(s)
8 August 2009
I used to be against Racism, until it was made Compulsory !!!
TallandSlimMan
Inscrit en Apr 2008

467 message(s)
8 August 2009
Totem advertises FULL nudity, and we customers don't get that on many cards...recent and early. To be clear, if a model is wearing stockings, boots or other clothing (I'm OK with jewelry or simple shoes) through out the show....that's NOT full nudity!!

As for the Carol G. Bimboland card...my opinion is that it's a rip-off.
Lowjoe
Inscrit en Jul 2008

174 message(s)
8 August 2009
Yes!That is full nudity!Full nudity only means you can see her boobs and pussy.
Cartref
MODÉRATEUR
Inscrit en Sep 2007

520 message(s)
8 August 2009
Peace gentlemen,

A lot of the discussion here is from an individual's point of view and there ios no need to bring competing dirctionaries into it.

Respect other people's point of view even if you do not agree with it and for goodness sake, stop trying to put a universal legal interpretation on it. We have multiple countries with numerous laws and legal interpretations. I do not exoect that we have any one here who is qualified on the individual legal systems within the EU, the EU itself, the US legal system, Australian, Japanese, Indoneason, etc etc etc.....
tiobruno57
Inscrit en Aug 2008

159 message(s)
8 August 2009
Peace, gentlemen. I am fully aware of the faults of my own country. Every country has its own faults and problems. Take care of yours and leave ours to us.
Oquijan
Inscrit en May 2009

1536 message(s)
13 August 2009
@Lowjoe. Naah, we all saw where she hidden it. But it was magical, nonetheless. Lol.

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