@Calgon

Yes the AUTO_MOUSE macro was something I threw together, but for such small things I don't care about being acknowledged as the author.

Effectivement USA ou un autre pays, le plus important serait d'avoir de la nouveauté sur le plan artistique avec des contenus orientés différemment, peut-être liés à une approche culturelle autre. C'est avant tout une affaire de métier et de sensibilité.

That was from 2016, 7 years ago, how about in 2023?
Well, they did float the possibility of a new studio but in Japan and not in America. It was a fairly big 'if' I thought but I hope for the best. 😕😎 https://www.istripper.com/forum/thread/50278/3?post=734461

in japan? it should be interesting to get japanese/asian girls anyway, florida or japan it's a yes for me if it's happen xD

I am definitely not so happy about Lana Lane - Splash Zone, an upcoming card, NOT labelled as 'coming soon'. This means it must be a SEC. 😠😫The first one of the new year.

As far as I am aware it is a normal card and is due next week?

@Z22

The context of my comment was restricted to the particular part of your post that I quoted in my original reply. That is why I quoted it - to establish the very specific context of the comment. I was was also commenting on your use of "just" when referring to the Creative Commons license which looked to me as if you considered it as something like the common misconception of the American "fair use" provision (which itself is not as liberal as it is often thought to be). Incidently, the use of such phrases as "just Creative Commons" quite possibly contributes to others not bothering to check what is meant by that license (as does the use of "fair use" and "public domain" both of which are typically misunderstood).

I said nothing about the rest of your post because I agreed with it and had nothing useful to add.

EDIT: Frpm previous posts of yours I am pretty sure that you do understand what is meant by Creative Commons, but someone comming fresh to the post I was commenting on would not, I think, understand that.

Maybe different locations could inspire some setting variety in VR shows ... different rooms/furniture of a house/apt, outdoors, etc ...

one other duos with only one pantyless

• Wellie & Leonelle Knoxville / Duo

And both pantyless

• Susan & Leonie Knoxville / Duo

Both only table clips

Well this is a good and healthy debate. 😂 Now I don't want to be arguing with anyone on this forum. It's supposed to be a place to share and develop. I have had lots of help from other people on here and for that I am grateful. This whole debate was sparked because when one member asked ME how to remove the background from my scene and another member provided this help but added that the logo "has to be removed as well". The logo appears for a few seconds in the scene, it doesn't "have" to be removed at all. From my position it is like this.... I have used elements of other peoples work: shaders, images and know how... but then I have spent time and effort to create something new and hopefully something artistic and appreciated and I have signed that creation with a logo. In the non digital world, it would be similar to a collage artist putting a signature on a collage made of newspaper clippings, they don't own the copyright to the newspaper but they have added their creativity and so they have signed it and would no doubt be offended if someone came and removed their signature.

@Z22 In relation to the use of the feathers shader in the first place. The shadertoy cc license states:

You are free to:
Share — copy and redistribute the material in any medium or format
Adapt — remix, transform, and build upon the material
The licensor cannot revoke these freedoms as long as you follow the license terms.

In this post you seem to be alluding that I have not given an attribution
https://www.istripper.com/forum/thread/27449/142?post=753570

I gave an attribution in 3 places.... the original forum link here:
https://www.istripper.com/forum/thread/29408/76?post=753533

and then on lines 1-3 of the shader

and then all of the original attributions on lines 29-42 where I have copied and pasted the entire source shader into the format provided by @Everthang on numerous other conversions. I think that that was sufficient attribution.

There's an AUTO_MOUSE section on lines 16-25.... these are I think attributable to @TheEmu so apologies to him for not placing an attribution but if I did..... should it go above or below the other attributions ??

As far as I am concerned, that is the end of this matter though no doubt I will get a few more 🔥🔥after I post this. I think people should be careful what they push for. It would be a sad day if Totem decided to remove the ability of the users to create full screen scenes as a result of division on this forum.

✌

Obvious favorite of mine. (see avatar) Tall, thin, well built, curvy, and a sexy dancer. *****
Although I do hope she'll do a few SE shows, I'll be just as happy with many more FN shows.

Now that I'm looking at some older cards:
maybe this is a problem because 1 out of 2 girls is pantyless?
(and both only table clips)

Susan Snow & Elisa / Duo
Only Elisa is pantyless in dress (in 2 of the 9 clips (excl. preview) rests completely naked)

Samanthe Jolie & Leila Smith /Duo
Only Samantha Jolie pantyless under skirt (in 2 of the 9 clips (excl. preview) rest totally naked)

rest of thread here...

https://www.istripper.com/forum/thread/27449/143?post=755515

Moved thread here...


There is an easy solution to this... email the owner of shadertoy and inform them of the use in istripper scenes and ask that they inform their userbase, and ask that the users add an application exception (may not be used with istripper) in the atrib if they object to the usage regardless of the CC licence.

@TheEMU Yes, but that is an out of context clip.

"Once downloaded its yours to do with as you wish (i encourage it with my scenes regardless how long it has taken me to write), a lot of you are using other peoples work in your scenes (shadertoy) without explicit permission, just creative commons. How many of those coders would be unhappy with your use in istripper scenes of their work?"

Lana is a gem, and I am glad that she puts in the effort to put up a good show every time she comes back for another take. 😊

Well if it is I will be getting it. Lana Lane all oiled up and, oh hellsyea, glass clips! 😲 😍 🔥

older card from 2008
Jenna Sweet & Amandine / Student room
in this time many short clips (total 23)
most no nude and topless but at clip 14 they start lifting the skirts

@Mods, can you please move this discussion to the discussion section, i started it in the wrong section.

We can't move a part of a thread, only the full thread. Sorry.

As i said, this not about legality, its a moral question.

I fully agree that it is a moral question - but it is one that also has a legal basis.

This sub-thread began because you said

a lot of you are using other peoples work in your scenes (shadertoy) without explicit permission, just creative commons

To which I made a reply pointing out that the explicit permission that you denied existed did in fact exist - that is ALL I was saying.

I have been talking about the morality of using someone elses code in a sexual explicit program they are likly to be
unaware of. Your argument is akin to "well you clicked yes on the EULA". People frequently click on things they didnt read and even add links they didnt read either, just because others have.

As i said, this not about legality, its a moral question.

@Mods, can you please move this discussion to the discussion section, i started it in the wrong section.

@ZZ2 - I do see it. But it in no way changes anything that I have said in which I have deliberately restricted myself to clarifying technical points regarding the licence.

If someone does not want their work to be used in ways they do not approve of then they should not use an unmodified Creative Commons license.

As an extreme example, someone could use a shadertoy as a background while they do stuff to eg:- 13 year old japanese girl (legal in parts of japan) and have the toy's creators name in the corner. Do you honestly think "but you have the CC licence" would be an excuse they would accept?

It is one thing to use their shader in another toy or in a game and an entirely another in a scene with a eg:- woman stuffing a vibe up herself. I don't understand how you can't see that.

I am willing to bet that the majority of people that use the CC licence have not read it, they have just thought "oh i just need to copy past that bit" and that s all. Yes, technically you can use it for whatever you want, but morally ...?

Which is one of the reasons why when you release something under the licence it requires you to either provide the full text of the licence or a link (or similar indicator) to where that text can be found.

Just because the agreement is there and even if they have read and understood it that doesnt mean they know istripper exists and has opengl functionality. This is a niche product after all. Just for the sake of basic courtesy you should inform them that you are using it in istripper. They may not want their name/work associated with porn.

For that matter most don't actually know what the licence actually allows.

Which is one of the reasons why when you release something under the licence it requires you to either provide the full text of the licence or a link (or similar indicator) to where that text can be found. Something like

// == Creator : TheEmu © TheEmu 2017, Some Rights Reserved ==
// == Licence : Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 4.0 ==
// == http://creativecommons.org/licences/by-sa/4.0

If you have not done that then you have not adhered to the licence.

But I can tempt you with an upcoming show - Freya Mayer - The Pink String Number.

Freya totally forgot her underwear. 😊

And don't forget Sasha Meow "Picnic Time"

Miss, i forgot my PE kit ...

Well you will just have to get something out of the lost bin.

I am definitely not so happy about Lana Lane - Splash Zone, an upcoming card, NOT labelled as 'coming soon'. This means it must be a SEC. 😠😫
The first one of the new year.

To my mind you should at least give the original creator a heads up that you are using their shader in a sexualy explicit program. When i used parts of Bigwings (the art of code on youtube) gyroid code, i linked my youtube video(now deleted) in his youtube comments. He liked it, i don't think he would have any problem with Calgon use of his feathers shader but i cant speak for him nor can any of us speak for the other creators which may not understand that the CC licence allows this kind of useage.

Informing them may get some new customers and scene creators too :)

Most of those creators have no idea istripper exists.
Nevertheless, by using the Creative Commons licence those creators have explicitly granted everyone the right to use their work - that being pretty much the point of using such licences. Most of those creators have no idea of the vast majority of cases where others may use their work,

For that matter most don't actually know what the licence actually allows.

@TheEmu

I don't know, any more than you do.

Thank you, so you are only a background noise. :)

My two cents:
Start a post section on this forum. The section could be called "NEW TAGS" or something. Each new category could be the items to sort. If someone starts a category of Pantyless, members can add to the list. After a while, Totem can decide that there is a full enough category (1000 tags)

Your 2 cents are really appreciate, thank you!! 😄

Most of those creators have no idea istripper exists.

Nevertheless, by using the Creative Commons licence those creators have explicitly granted everyone the right to use their work - that being pretty much the point of using such licences. Most of those creators have no idea of the vast majority of cases where others may use their work,

@TheEMU, you have missed the point. Part of which is ...

Most of those creators have no idea istripper exists. I guarantee there are some people on there that would not want their work associated with strippers regardless of the licence.

The other part being that Calgon is complaing about someone informing someone else how to alter his scene to remove a logo on their computer at the same time as using other peoples code which he has altered, that seems a bit rich to me. Previously i have told calgon not to remove the original attribution on shaders so he seems to be unaware of the protocol (i have messed up myself in this regard, but im not complaing about other people altering my scene or shaders).

a lot of you are using other peoples work in your scenes (shadertoy) without explicit permission, just creative commons

The Creative Commons licences give you explicit permission to use the work as long as you include an attribution to the original author and allow others the same rights to re-use the combined work. There is a bit more to it than that but, unlike the American "reasonable use" permission, it's not just a "just" thing.

(When I last checked, about a year ago, the Shadertoy site said that the shaders there were released under a particular Creative Commons license except for those for which there was an explicit statement refering to some other licence.)

1. Studio was more expensive and totem couldn't control the quality of the product in terms photos and videos.

I don't know a lot about the finances but all this seems pretty much on target from what I remember.

For me personally the problem was the production quality; I never could figure out why they couldn't get it right but the only 'American' produced show that I found tolerable was Uma Jolie .. the rest were really pretty bad in one way or the other and usually bad in every way. And it wasn't the model fault .. many were very appealing everywhere except here. Most were hardcore pornstars I think; maybe it would have been better with softcore or nude models but I doubt it. Probem was the studio and or production team; changing that was the only hope for a fix.

I don't think Totem cares one way or the other; they are fine with the current talent. It's probably more profitable and just easier for them. Not sure how Melody Marks ended up on IS but I suspect she found them and not the other way around. And I'm glad she did!

Stilled bummed they didn't get Malena Morgan back in the day .. had my hopes up in spite of the poor quality; there were several others I was hoping for as well but can't remember who they were at the moment but they missed more than they got in terms of talent. I think they had a US partnership which limited the options.

I, in part agree with wildanimal. Once downloaded its yours to do with as you wish (i encourage it with my scenes regardless how long it has taken me to write), a lot of you are using other peoples work in your scenes (shadertoy) without explicit permission, just creative commons. How many of those coders would be unhappy with your use in istripper scenes of their work? Yet, you pulbish works containing their code and i have never heard of any complaints that people on here have used/modified their work.

I dont agree with the making us add the istripper logo in the scene as it's just a waste of time. It can easliy be removed, as for adding it to the scene code so we have no control... well they havent added any new functions that we have requested, didnt the person that wrote it leave years ago? I'm sure we would find a way around it or they will break things like the persistent buffer "undocumented feature".

Issue resolved......thread closed

@casamonte

I can see that you just recently Joined the iStripper Discord Server.
Jed Vigilante#4964

I had previously Searched the Banned member list, and your user name was not on it.

I don't have a way to check the IP address of a Banned user.
There is a list of Deleted users, and Maybe one of them was your old account.

When you sign in to Discord with the old account
What is the 4 digit code of that username?

I can see if one of the Banned deleted users has the same 4 digit code.

@BJlover

iStripper will erase from the Data folder, and Not show the Images of cards removed from the Store.
You need to make a custom image in that cards data folder.
All custom images will be left in the data folder and used in place of the origional images.

See this Thread for Details. https://www.istripper.com/forum/thread/37892/1?post=556756

Many Thanks!!

I was not aware of this topic. I realized a custom image as you suggested and now it works!!

Have a nice day!!

I would like to know more about this studio.

How the idea of creating this studio came about. Who were the people responsible for it.

Its history, when it opened and what led to its closure.

Were the shooting conditions the same as in the European studio at that time?

Was the enthusiasm of the clients the same for the American women, as for the European women for example?

Is a return of a studio in America possible or not? If not, why not?


J'aimerais en savoir plus sur ce studio.

Comment est venu l'idée de créer ce studio. Qui en était les personnes responsables.

Son historique, la date de son ouverture et ce qui a ammené sa fermeture.

Les conditions de tournage étaient-elles les même qu'au studio européen à cette époque ?

L'enthousiasme des clients était-il le même pour les femmes américaines, que les femmes européennes par exemple.

Un retour d'un studio en Amérique est-il envisageable ou non. Si non pourquoi ?

1. Studio was more expensive and totem couldn't control the quality of the product in terms photos and videos.
2. They tried to pay America models more similar to European models and couldn't build a very good catalog...cost of living in L.A and Las Vegas is ridiculous and pornstars must ask for more money. America doesn't have the constant flow of model beautiful girls from Russia and Ukraine like Europe does...
3. Totem then decided to pay much more for models and were able to get some good shows like Mia Malkova but these didn't sell well enough to justify the costs. Customers want professionals but aren't going to pay more for a pro-stripper with tats and anything fake...that has been proven. A tat-free girl from Ukraine or Russia who will do xxx seems the best bet for success.
4. Totem lost a lot of money on the America studio initially but probably has made it back as it helps sell the product to mainstream porn viewers and American users.
5. I actually think totem just needs to be more proactive about non-european models coming to Paris...they could have shot most of the best american girls without an american studio if they wanted.

Great scene shares guys, keep 'em coming. I hope it does really inspire more (and more) creators and experimenters. 👍 😎

Oh ok. Must have missed that.

That was from 2016, 7 years ago, how about in 2023?
Well, they did float the possibility of a new studio but in Japan and not in America. It was a fairly big 'if' I thought but I hope for the best. 😕😎 https://www.istripper.com/forum/thread/50278/3?post=734461

Celine talked about another American studio back when they were selling NFT...and Rex has said it would presumably be in Florida this time. I don't see it happening though. Totem can expand their America catalog if they worked with the Vixen Media Group. This group shoots totem's most popular girls from europe and they do cast American girls, who fly to Europe, to complete shoots. Allie Nicole, Avery Christy, Gianna Dior, Emily Willis, Mia Melano, Lana Rhodes have all shot in Europe, some of them in Paris and weren't casted by Totem. Totem has yet to shoot during one of these visits. Not sure if it is a cost thing or just scheduling. It is the one area that is disappointing to me because I am sure they could get some of the girls if the price was right and with the gambling, special event, the premium mark-up, the mobile site subscription, and the NFT I would think they would be willing to spend a little more to improve the catalog or at least make it more diverse.

That was from 2016, 7 years ago, how about in 2023?

Well, they did float the possibility of a new studio but in Japan and not in America. It was a fairly big 'if' I thought but I hope for the best. 😕😎

https://www.istripper.com/forum/thread/50278/3?post=734461

why you feel the urge to say NO; why you are so negative..

I do not have an urge to say no, but I do try to be realistic about what is practical.

How you know that TOTEM have no archives, databases...?

I don't know, any more than you do. But there is no evidence to support your hope that they have one that can be used in the way that you want while there is some, albeit weak, evidence that there is no such database - the evidence being that in an exercise similar to the one that you are proposing someone did have to go through the collection manually.

I think we all agree, the idea is easy. The difficulty is making it happen.
Some have already started spreadsheets and working programs which "sort" items, it has already been started. There is already a posting for mistagged cards.

My two cents:
Start a post section on this forum. The section could be called "NEW TAGS" or something. Each new category could be the items to sort. If someone starts a category of Pantyless, members can add to the list. After a while, Totem can decide that there is a full enough category (1000 tags)

If totem does nothing more than add this section to the forum, I can still make a playlist for myself based upon the suggestions of the members.

they haven't to examine every single CLIP...but only the CARDS where the model that are pantiless
Just how do you propose to determine which cards have no clips in which panties are worn ? Certainly it would be less than all clips but it would also entail looking at much more than one clip per card.

I would be delighted if Totem provided a few of my favourite clothing tags - but they would almost certainly be rather different from yours (my personal highest priority clothing tags would be Bra, Panties, Suspender Belt, Blouse, Seamed Stockings, Silk or Satin).

For a long time I have wished that for each card Totem had provided a full list of the items of clothing being worn and discarded. But though that would have been practical if it had been a feature from the start it, along with similar ideas, would not be practical now.

P.S. would a card level "pantiless" tag be equivalent to "no panties" in which case a "Panties" tag would seem to be the more obvious choice alongside the existing "dress", "skirt", "stockings" and "socks" tags.


because I hope that TOTEM ... have some DIGITAL archives where was wrote how the model was dressed.
If that was the case it wouldnot have been necessary for one of the moderators to have undertaken reviewing the whole collection in order to introduce the "socks" category.

Thank you for your 5 cents...

Now I wonder what's your problem: why you feel the urge to say NO; why you are so negative...It's an Emu's mindset?

I don't understand: are you a Totem employee?, are you a moderator?...How you know that TOTEM have no archives, databases...?

Who are you, or who do you believe to be?

Have a nice day :)

@BJlover

iStripper will erase from the Data folder, and Not show the Images of cards removed from the Store.
You need to make a custom image in that cards data folder.
All custom images will be left in the data folder and used in place of the origional images.

See this Thread for Details.
https://www.istripper.com/forum/thread/37892/1?post=556756

Thanks for the clarification @Wyldanimal

streaming only?

The Mobile Site is 100% Streaming Only.
Only the current Animation or VR show is cached to your device.
Then discarded or overwritten by the Next streamed Animation or VR show.

A short answer from the CEO here : https://www.istripper.com/fr/forum/thread/32775/1?post=498146

That was from 2016, 7 years ago, how about in 2023?