If anyone is interested, I did finally get to 2000 Quest tokens to earn the EX card.
I needed just 29 more tokens.
and there is NOTHING in the storte to buy.. I would have used a joker to buy just 1 card and get 50 Quest tokens..
But I already had all of the cards..

I played the Thrill Spins like forever, trying to get 5 loses in a row..
i got to 4 in a row, and then a win... Ugghhh..
That's all I needed... just that Quest..

in the End though, it was more cost effective to just use Crypto to add 250 credits and get 50 bounos Quest tokens..
Since I already had more than Enough Credits...
I opted to complete the Last Golden Ticket Quest.
play 25 more times
to make it a total of 50 plays...

I won 1 Joker in the process.. I won back 50% of the Credits I used.
and I got 200 Quest tokens, Putting me way over the top !

And Most of all I got the EX card...

here is the video clip of the last 6 minutes scratching the last 25 golden tickets.
https://wyldanimal.com/videos/EX-Quests-002.mp4

@WA

Thanks for that analysis. I find it odd that no one from Totem says anything on this topic as it seems to be a deeply unpopular Event.

I find it odd that no one from Totem says anything on this topic as it seems to be a deeply unpopular Event.

@Calgon 😆 I think you just answered yourself there - that's why no one at Totem wants to say anything - it's unpopular and a mess for sure. It wastes so much time for customers on these quests. Bet many would much rather just buy the cards without these games.

Also it's weekend. Nobody is working at Totems office right now, not until tomorrow.

@Calgon wrote:

@WAThanks for that analysis.....

Yes, I wanted to see if I could find a good roadmap to obtain the EX cards for Master and Elite members.
Next time, I will plan out my quests better, and I will probably hold off on One SEC card, so That I can use a Joker to complete that Quest.

I ended up needing just 29 more tokes / points
and had to Spend a ton of Credits trying to complete the last thrill spin Quest ( 5 loses in a row )
and after 30 minutes of that not working,
I Scratched 25 more tickets to finish that Quest.
That added 200 tokens/ points so I went over by 171.

I really Spent a ton more credits than I should have, if I had Planned ahead a bit..

@WA

I really Spent a ton more credits than I should have, if I had Planned ahead a bit..

I know that feeling. Your analysis assumes that what worked last time will work again and that the rules won't get changed - and if there's one thing you can guarantee, it's not to take anything on here as guaranteed.

I was so intent on winding down my credits mountain I piled into the games and still ended up having to do a top-up to complete things and that then put me well over the 2000 ticket mark but I think I will follow your advise and buy the cards I want over the coming months. 3 months without buying a single thing from iStripper was a bit boring - though I did explore some subscription VR sites. You can see the effect of 3 months solid of VR from my profile picture.

We don't ignore you. We haven't found a fair solution yet.

I don't think the current Black Friday event is the solution.
Quite the opposite in fact @celine
👎

I don't think the current Black Friday event is the solution.

I do wonder... does anyone actually do the maths on how hard this thing is to complete when you have a full collection of cards.

By my calculations if there are more than 500 shows in the store and you have 50NFTs then you can obtain 4700 points from the event but you would have to sacrifice 10 Jokers to do it.

Conversely if you own all the regular shows but no NFTs and don't want to sacrifce 10 Jokers then the max points you can get is 2330. Even buying 2500 credits wouldn't take you over the target amount of 4000.

I don't think I'm even going to bother collecting the few points for what I can attain.

Roll on the Advent calendar - that I will get.

I don't think the current Black Friday event is the solution.I do wonder... does anyone actually do the maths on how hard this thing is to complete when you have a full collection of cards.

Part of the Mathematics problem is the different users have different goals.

A member who owns all (or most) the cards is limited in the winnings which changes every game. If you own all the cards, then the games will not let you win cards (or discounts to cards)

A new user is going to pay more for each card but has the ability to purchase/win/discount more cards.

There are some posts in the forum which have a member explain what was spent for winning a SEC. Since there are random "wins" this will only be examples. "n=1" is not a great sample size.

By my calculations if there are more than 500 shows in the store and you have 50NFTs then you can obtain 4700 points from the event but you would have to sacrifice 10 Jokers to do it.Conversely if you own all the regular shows but no NFTs and don't want to sacrifce 10 Jokers then the max points you can get is 2330. Even buying 2500 credits wouldn't take you over the target amount of 4000.I don't think I'm even going to bother collecting the few points for what I can attain.Roll on the Advent calendar - that I will get.

Thanks for working that out @Number6

I have been looking at the quest points.
Might just be able to get the first SEC of Kirke with sensible point collecting but might only buy the Advent Calendar being the only current (next week) promotion offering any value to me.

My Path to the EX card is this..
I have a full collection and No Card to Buy / Win..

I have all of the DOLZ quests so that is 660 points
I buy one 2500 credits thats 1,500 points points $200
I play 50 times the Thrill Spin to spend the 2500 credits and earn 815 points
this brings me to 2,995 points
I buy 1000 credits and get 500 points $90
I spend 1000 credit on the slot machine and get 165 points
this brings me to 3,660 points
I connect 10 days in a row to the event I earn 160 points
I subscribe to the News Letter I earn 10 points
im now at 3,830 points
I buy the 500 credits and get 200 points and that puts me over to 4,030 $50
It cost me $340 and I still have all of the credits that I won while playing the Thrill Spins and Slot machine.

As a full Collection Holder, it cost me a max of $340, and I used 3500 credits.
I still have the 500 credits from the last reload, plus about 1500 credits that I won back playing the games.

It is doable for a Full Collection Holder, But without having the DOLZ collection.
it's next to Not Possible without Buying More Credits you can't possible use.

My Path to the EX card is this..I have a full collection and No Card to Buy / Win..I have all of the DOLZ quests so that is 660 pointsI buy one 2500 credits thats 1,500 points points $200I play 50 times the Thrill Spin to spend the 2500 credits and earn 815 pointsthis brings me to 2,995 pointsI buy 1000 credits and get 500 points $90I spend 1000 credit on the slot machine and get 165 pointsthis brings me to 3,660 pointsI connect 10 days in a row to the event I earn 160 pointsI subscribe to the News Letter I earn 10 pointsim now at 3,830 pointsI buy the 500 credits and get 200 points and that puts me over to 4,030 $50It cost me $340 and I still have all of the credits that I won while playing the Thrill Spins and Slot machine.As a full Collection Holder, it cost me a max of $340, and I used 3500 credits.I still have the 500 credits from the last reload, plus about 1500 credits that I won back playing the games.It is doable for a Full Collection Holder, But without having the DOLZ collection.it's next to Not Possible without Buying More Credits you can't possible use.

So the TLDR is.......

Its not worth it?
Yep, not worth it. 😆😆😆😆😆

I am sorry that I will not have the duo EX card, but the price is *****, so it was easy decision.

Fair enough.

I got the first one and that cost but I didn't bother after that, 😎 Up to user.

.......Its not worth it?Yep, not worth it. 😆😆😆😆😆

same here. i didnt reload last year bec i dont want to support these ex cards.

this year the same. no reload.

i have still 500+ credits left from the last reload 2 years ago.

i didnt play scratch any longer so 500+ credits will be enough for me for the next two years.

Ultimately it's down to the user if it's worth it or not.

I've also started to reload once a year (barring any unforeseen great promos) and the credits usually last me long enough. More so with the gift cards and jokers we get from the DOlz store (I hope they return soon).

I've not participated in the gambling games as for me the feeling of loss is worse than any potential FOMO.

My Path to the EX card is this..I have a full collection and No Card to Buy / Win..I have all of the DOLZ quests so that is 660 pointsI buy one 2500 credits thats 1,500 points points $200I play 50 times the Thrill Spin to spend the 2500 credits and earn 815 pointsthis brings me to 2,995 pointsI buy 1000 credits and get 500 points $90I spend 1000 credit on the slot machine and get 165 pointsthis brings me to 3,660 pointsI connect 10 days in a row to the event I earn 160 pointsI subscribe to the News Letter I earn 10 pointsim now at 3,830 pointsI buy the 500 credits and get 200 points and that puts me over to 4,030 $50It cost me $340 and I still have all of the credits that I won while playing the Thrill Spins and Slot machine.As a full Collection Holder, it cost me a max of $340, and I used 3500 credits.I still have the 500 credits from the last reload, plus about 1500 credits that I won back playing the games.It is doable for a Full Collection Holder, But without having the DOLZ collection.it's next to Not Possible without Buying More Credits you can't possible use.

Similar results here, except that I only needed to reload once, probably due to the Dolz quests.

Investment:

Money balance: -199 € (1 reload of 2500 credits)
Credits balance (after reloading and doing the quests): -2500 (approx.)
Time spent: 2 hours

Gains:

EX cards: +1
SEC cards: +2
Joker cards: +8
Gift cards: +3

Using precisely that 2500 credits are worth 199 €, and considering that the value of the 3 gift cards is negligible inside the error margin, we could say that the total neat money investment has been around 400 € and 2 precious hours of my life.

So, plain and simple, we could say that this pack of 1xEX + 2xSEC + 8xJoker cards has been worth around 400 € and about 2 hours of time.

Also, here comes recommendation, or rather warning, on my end. I cannot confirm this as a fact because it's impossible to do so for certain, but rather a speculation on my end, although I think it's pretty well-grounded. If you opt out for completing all the slot machine quests, you'll probably end up obtaining a good amount of joker cards like I did (of course, at the cost of all the neat credit investment / negative balance). However, beware that at the moment in which you qualify to get all the quests from this game (at least 5000 credits betted), it's very likely that you will be in the situation in which you have collected 4 out of 5 "JOKER" letters, ("JOKE", a very appropriate term in this context, as shown below).

If you are in this situation right after qualifying to get all the points from this game, do NOT continue playing to try getting the last word for one more joker, this is a trap. Even after suspecting this from the beginning, curiosity ***** the cat and I decided to pay just to get the information and confirm these suspicions, and they were confirmed for good: no matter how many moves you keep doing, the last letter will never appear. I have to say that, unless this is an extremely unlikely bad streak and what I suspect is not correct, this is a morally reprehensible trap/bait on the company's end, so I feel with the duty to at least warn about this possibility and leave it to the criterion of whoever gets into this situation.

At least I hope that part of all the large amount of money that is probably made through this type of events is re-invested in the near future to improve the product for the customer's end: e.g., recording and offering more duo shows (needless to say, ideally as regular cards, like in the old good times).

I have 2070 point's that cost me 2300 credit's. (spend more but win back also)

from plaing the games I got:
7 normal cards the 2 sec cards.
1 gifte card and 7 jokers.
I did use 1 joker to buy 1 sec

I have 4/5 slot machine only the 5000 credit's bet is left
all thrill spin
all pleasure chest quests.
4/5 Dolz quest as I do have a legendary but that is the Lana Lane Shimmer Shot.
And 3/8 Bonus quest.

The quest that is can do is:
Connect 5 times 50
connect 10 times 100
Buy Advent calendar 50
buy 10 shows 10 (6 to go)
buy 25 shows 20 (15 on top of the 6 (but I have to buy some classic cards))
Buy 50 shows 50 (25 on top of the 6 and 15 (but can only be classic cards))

At the end I have 2070 Now + 280 can get = 2350 total.
Buy credit pack for 200 euro gets me 1500 which make total of 3850 points missing 150.

I have to make a choice.
1 using 4 more jokers on normale cards (feels useless) and not do the 25/50 buy show. (30 points over)
2 Play more slot machine to bet 2500 credits (and win more jokers and credit) not do the 25/50 buy show. 280 points over)
3 buy more credits (on top of the 200 euro pack) and end up with 3900 credits. (feels wrong as I can't spend them as I have 14 jokers so no playing games next year unless there will be another EX card)

It is expensive if you want all the iStripper cards (normale, sec and EX) and all the Dolz cards now or in the futher. I don't have all the Classic yet.

😱 So as WyldAnimal said on discord:

I say this with the utmost of Sincerity...
to All of the Members.
Please Do Not spend more than you can afford...

While iStripper is a business and all Businesses want to make a profit..
Please, only spend what you can afford to spend...

Where I will add

Or want to

But without having the DOLZ collection.it's next to Not Possible without Buying More Credits you can't possible use.

I have all the EX cards so far. The present event made me reach Elite status. I have no plans to spend a fortune on artificially limited NFT shows, so I hope that they come up with some other solution.

In my opinion the quests are not the wanted alternative for people who have almost everything.

Max. quest points without buying credits is 4750.
If you have almost everything, it's impossible to buy 500 shows or use 10 Jokers which bring 500 points each. Even if you have all NFT, spend 5000 credits on slotmachine, 2500 credits on thrill spill, open 10 treasure chests and can buy 250 shows, you still cannot make the goal without buying new credits.

When you don't like NFCs, you can get 4090 points with the other tasks. If you don't win the slotmachine jackpot, its 4040. So you need to complete all big tasks, to get the points without buying credits.

Realistic for me when I have almost all is, buy 5000 credits for 400 Euro and do some quests for 1000 points.



In other words, you need to buy around 1 1/2 year shows to complete the quests or you need to buy 5000 credits = 333 shows without premium and 416 with premium.

When you have 2 or more EX cards per year, the old problem stays the same. The EX cards require more invest than you can spend on fresh content.

Yep the costs is one thing and doing all these tasks takes too much time, and sucks people into a gambling type mentality and of course the FOMO mentality.

Yep the costs is one thing and doing all these tasks takes too much time, and sucks people into a gambling type mentality and of course the FOMO mentality.

So what? Isn't that exactly the attitude you adopted when you arrived on this app?😊

It took 417 slot plays at MAX bet of 12 credits to reach the 5000 credits played Quest.
I discovered a way to Spin the slot machine, on Average once every 8 seconds.
This is roughly 4 times faster...
So it took about an Hour. Verses the 4 hours it might have taken.

Since I have no cards available to buy, my Only goal was to reach the 5000 credits used.
the Results of the Spin was not the important aspect to focus on.
Spin, wait for the Green button, Spin again...

took 58 minutes...

I started with a re-load of credits, and figured if I ran low, I would re-load again.
But I won back Enough Credits that I did not need to do a 2nd Re-load.

I will also join in with the rest of the members and voice my concern about this Tripple Quest Event Needing to Reach 4000 points.

the 4 Past EX quest type events, only required 2000 Quest points, and Making this one 4000 Points was not well received.

The Marketing Team should take all of these complaints into consideration and Find a way to make these more Attainable for all.
Especially, for the Elite Level Members.
It's an almost impossible quest for the Member of Elite Level.

4000 points is an unattainable quest without purchasing credits that take more than a year to use.

if card production is 365 cards a year,
and Elite with Premium members get 50% + 20% discount on every card
1 Full Year of cards is a total of 4,380 credits.
( 365 x 30 credits per card - 50% - 20% )

That is Less than the 2 full 2500 credit reloads an Elite Member has to purchase to be able to reach the 4000 point quest.

It's an almost impossible quest for the Member of Elite Level.4000 points is an unattainable quest without purchasing credits that take more than a year to use.if card production is 365 cards a year, and Elite with Premium members get 50% + 20% discount on every card1 Full Year of cards is a total of 4,380 credits.( 365 x 30 credits per card - 50% - 20% ) That is Less than the 2 full 2500 credit reloads an Elite Member has to purchase to be able to reach the 4000 point quest.

And when you still have more than 2000 credits from a previous event it is even more pointless to buy a further 5000 credits.

Much as I would have really liked this duo card I am managing to hold out and am still currently sitting at 0 points for the event.
😰

It was 7 months since I last played any game. I was curious to see how it worked and what an EX card was like. The EX was nothing special and I would not have bought it if it was a regular card.

For me the "free" cards offered by all the games are a waste. If I wanted them I would already have purchased them

Besides being curious about the EX card I wanted to get some Jokers. That was very tedious. It would be very nice if the slot machine had an option that allow me to set some upper limit and would run until either I won a Joker or I reached that limit with just one click. It would also be very nice if I could choose to get a few credits instead of free cards.

For me the "free" cards offered by all the games are a waste. If I wanted them I would already have purchased them

This is exactly how I feel. This is the only reason I no longer play any games. I simply do not want some (lots of) cards in my collection.

I got both SECs by purchasing credits and not playing any games.

I would however be interested in the duo card if it became available to purchase at a reasonable price.