As far as "entitlement problems" are concerned what I see is a relatively small subset of customersWhat you see is the tip of the iceberg and they shouldn't act like the larger part is not there under the surface.

Assuming that all members who speak their mind here represent all lines of thought. It is fair to believe that this subset is not so small in terme of percentage.

@Carbo

Those that continue to buy or stop buying are a far more important, far larger, and far more accurate, representation of how the full set of customers behave. It is their behaviour, not their thoughts, that is important to Totem. As I have repeatedly stated we do not have that data, but Totem do.

@Carbo - I have seen several posters here that claim that they will stop buying - but as they are triple diamond members, and some if I remember correctly have even appeared in recent lists of those that have full collections, so they do not always behave in the way that they say that they will. Behaviour, especially en mass, trumps rhetoric.

@TheEmu
I agree that many of them speak loud but they are hooked well enough, and Totem is counting on that.

Being louder than others neither automatically makes you the majority nor more important than others.

Just sayin’

A picture worth a thousand useless words.

For my part, I trust Totem to find an acceptable solution.

Until then, my remaining 1600.35 credits rest quietly in their corner. And you can be sure that they will rest there, until that solution is found.


Une image qui vaut milles mots inutiles.

Pour ma part je fais confiance à Totem pour trouver une solution acceptable.

D'ici là mes 1600.35 crédits restant reposent tranquillement dans leur coin. Et vous pouvez être certains qu'ils vont y reposer, tant que cette solution ne sera pas trouvée.

I'm glad i'm not an obsessive collector. C'mon guys, it's just one card, there are other over 4000 cards, just let it go. Enjoy all these other amazing cards instead of being obssesed over the one card you don't have.

@ComteDracula , I do believe there was something especially twisted about the Joker Card drawing. Check ALL winners names to see what I mean. I would prefer Totem ditched all games and sold all cards on a clearly defined set of rules. The girls are why I came to this site. I can easily find video poker on legit run sites.

@Totem , Stick to parading our girls, Totem. Ditch the Games.

@Carbo , Joining of the boycott. What a waste of credits. C'est la vie.

@ward666999

Could you please be specific as to what you are implying by "Check ALL winners names to see what I mean." because i see nothing particular in the list.

as we weir told after wards & only after that the "Joker cards" weir givin or won bye ppl or ppls that didn't win the assigned card or a SEC during that event!!

@gkar45
Who and where was that said?

@TheEmu , answer pm

@ward666999

Please expand on this comment:

I do believe there was something especially twisted about the Joker Card drawing. Check ALL winners names to see what I mean.

What specifically are you alluding too?

There was nothing Twisted about the results?

@ward666999 - With regard to your PM. There are major problems with the forum search function and I am not at all surprised that this extends to the member search function. You sent me a list of 7, out of 50, names of Joker winners for which the search function had problems. This is unfortunate but almost certainly relates to a bug in the search function. Therehave been several posts in the "Bugs and fixes" thread about the problems with the search function - more than one reported by me - and I regard fixing these bugs as being way overdue.

I think cockup is a more appropriate description than conspiracy.

@Wyldanimal , @TheEmu
Check these Joker Card winners names : Mandalor , shinshan , asrgf , Alex_1 , Wonka , CAMON , Shadow24 ?

Did they magically change their names ?

On My Profile, Pseudo info button says, "You can't change your pseudonyme once chosen".

They do not exist in Forum, Members, Search...

As I stated quite clearly in my reply this seems to be simply a bug in the search function. Given that there are some very major bugs in the forum search function it is not at all surprising that similar problems exist in the closely related member search function.

For example searching for "manda" found mandalay but not mandalorethx, thoughh this was found by searching for "mandalor".

You can believe anything that is found does exist, but not in the non-existance of things that are not found. This is very much to be regretted and I really wish that Totem would treat fixing it as a high priority item.

@TheEmu ,
What's broke, above all else, is the spent effort on these games and not fixing the Search data base.
@Totem , Ditch The Games.

@gkar45

@kaiju write this...

50 of you have earned this joker card and were able to get Melena's special card if they hadn't won it when scratching.

Seriously ??? you don't understand that?

let me help to explain it...

That Means that 50 members won Joker cards
and If they Didn't already Win the Melena card in the Scratch Game,
they can use the Joker card to obtain it..

You are twisting around what was said.. when you post this..

as we weir told after wards & only after that the "Joker cards" weir givin or won bye ppl or ppls that didn't win the assigned card or a SEC during that event!!

That is NOT what was posted at all.

go read it for yourself...

https://www.istripper.com/forum/thread/42891/1?post=633527

Everything about iStripper / To those like me who want to be able to buy special event cards (À ceux qui comme moi veulent pouvoir acheter les carte...

Hi All, We understand that some of you are frustrated because of the "special events" cards and we hear you. The truth is that Totem always had in mind to create "rare" cards (It probably has somethin...

@ward666999
put an AT sign in front of their name, and then you can view their profile..
just click on the AT Name
It won't work for Alex_1, as there is a bug when punctuation is used in the Pseudo

for Alex_1 use @i26085822

@Wyldanimal , @TheEmu Check these Joker Card winners names : @Mandalor , @shinshan , @asrgf , @Alex_1 , @Wonka , @CAMON , @Shadow24 ?Did they magically change their names ?On My Profile, Pseudo info button says, "You can't change your pseudonyme once chosen".They do not exist in Forum, Members, Search...

Both the Forum Search, and the Member Search results, have issues...
so these members NOT showing up, is probably due to the Search utility issue...

It is on the List of things to be fixed, but it is a low priority....

Ok I just re looked at what I wrote...

https://www.istripper.com/forum/thread/42891/4?post=633785

Everything about iStripper / To those like me who want to be able to buy special event cards (À ceux qui comme moi veulent pouvoir acheter les carte...

@gkar45 @kaiju write this... 50 of you have earned this joker card and were able to get Melena's special card if they hadn't won it when scratching. Seriously ??? you don't understand that? let me hel...

and without Inflection of my Voice,
you can really Take what I wrote the wrong way.

I didn't mean anything more than, Let me Help to explain it....

I could have gone back and edited it, but I'd rather leave it as is, and post this
Typed text,
with out Tone of ones Voice,
can come across the wrong way.....

I feel frustrated, the loot boxes it´s a cheap way to get money, the other special event cards were on pre-purchase so you could decide to get it or not. The Special event cards, don´t give you the chance to decide, if you want to buy it you should spend a lot of credits without warranty of get it.

I live in Mexico this is a luxury very hard to maintain, every credit cost me a lot of pesos (Mexican Money) I have all the cards of Melena but it´s almost impossible for me to get it. I get 35 tickets for the joker card that represents for me two days salary.

If you give the chance to buy the joker cards at 50, 100 credits , one week later than the gambling game, anybody who wants to feel the excitation of opening a magic the gathering packs will play, and anybody who wants a safe buy will wait to get the card.

"Using emotional words and phrases such "frustrate" and "honest customers" does not help."

As a frustrated and honest customer. I disagree. Gambling mechanics are still exploitive and a douchbaggy business practice. No jumping to the defense of Totem every other post is going to change that.

The outrage on the forums is all the proof you need to realise we, the customers, are right on this one.

@Wyldanimal , Okay, I can see the Profiles of the 7 winners I listed. Now that I can see their Profiles, I see that none have made Forum posts and maybe that is reason they do not come up in Members, Search..... Not broke but in need of improvement ?
Must remember that @name thing to access profiles.

So, @Totem and Rest of Forum, I apologize for twisted comment, "I do believe there was something especially twisted about the Joker Card drawing. Check ALL winners names to see what I mean". Apology again.

Stand by my disdain for games.

Please, @Totem , Ditch the Games.

Once bitten, twice shy . Having been disappointed playing a thier games , one time! Never will I ever play a Totem game again. From what I can ascertain in life, you get what you pay for, if you're careful. Due diligence is called for, when spending credits to see a performer, and even then disappointment will sometimes happen. Such is life!

Ok people,

Can we mods make it clear, EVERYONE is entitle to their view and no one is being censored her for their comments so long as they remain polite, but if people start attacking other people for their opinions, even it they do no use names directly, then that is still attacking and will draw attention.

I can make this post and yes it is referring to a specific post, but only because I am a moderator and I am moderating someone's behaviour without specifically naming as this is a general warning to all.

@ward666999

So, @Totem and Rest of Forum, I apologize for twisted comment, "I do believe there was something especially twisted about the Joker Card drawing. Check ALL winners names to see what I mean". Apology again.

👍

First, thanks to Totem for replying about trying to do something for their "loyal" customers concerning this fiasco.

Now, let me tell you what WON'T be a solution for me as an ALREADY "loyal" customer who is ALREADY receiving discounts for my PREVIOUS "loyalty".

I've been a member since 2008. I'm "Double Diamond" (sorry...I only buy the cards I'm really interested in) and ALREADY receive a 40% DISCOUNT on any cards I buy now. I do SINCERELY appreciate that as a "loyal" customer.

So, if any "solution" involves a higher price to me for one of the "special event" cards than what a customer who WASN'T already getting a discount (ie - a "new" customer with NO cards) is ***** to pay, I'm keeping my money. I would have no problem paying the "full price" a new customer would have to pay for any REGULAR card (ie - make me pay the regular price for the "spevial EVENT card" without my Double Diamond 40% discount), but I'm not paying or gambling outrageous amounts of money for the card that has been described as NOT EVEN SPECIAL in this thread, because it's the EVENT that is "special". I'd be willing to spend the REGULAR price for the special event card, but no more (while still keeping my Double Diamond 40% discount for all other cards...I'm either still "loyal enough" to keep that or not).

If anybody thinks I would ever pay $25 for ANY card here, they are out of their minds. I pay $50 for 500 credits when I buy my credits. I don't get a Double Diamond discount on that. And I will NEVER pay 250 credits ($25...or MORE, as some people have suggested) to get ANY card here, regardless of how "special" it may be.

Heck, I can pay $19.95 for 1 month for most of the "affiliate" sites Totem is associated with, then I could download the ENTIRE CONTENT of that site within 30 days...pictures AND videos (assuming I had the storage space for the content...which I do have). So I'm NEVER going to willingly pay $25 or more for a single card here. Nor risk GAMBLING that much (or more, as some have said they ended up gambling to get one of the cards).

I'm gonna assume there's a reason Totem terminated the old SUBSCRIPTION membership, and it's probably because MANY people got fed up with paying for cards they DIDN'T want to buy to begin with. For those people (like me and others) it costs us LESS to just buy the cards we WANT to buy. These "games" now ***** us to try to get cards we DO want, but end up getting other cards we DON'T want instead. And the same thing happens with the "Buy the whole month in advance and we'll give you the Special Event card". Ain't no way I'm spending money on a month's worth of cards I DON'T want just to get ONE card I WOULD want.

So, if the cost of a "special event" card to me will EVER be more than the price of a REGULAR card for a BRAND NEW MEMBER, I'm not buying it. Heck, as Wyldanimal and others have said, the CARD itself isn't "special", it's the stupid "event" that is. So don't make me pay more for the card than the highest cost it would be to a brand new iStripper customer with NO cards to begin with. I'm already "a loyal customer", so give me a break. If you know that MOST new customers are only going to stay around for 5 months (as the stated "statistics" in previous posts indicate), screw them around by making THEM "gamble" or "pay more" (like you ALREADY DO because I get a discount for being Double Diamond and they don't).

That's the terms Totem will have to meet to keep me a "loyal" customer, instead of jerking me around by making me gamble my money or pay some kind of totally outrageous price for a card that isn't even "special" itself, but just associated with a "special event".

@FalconAF
That's quite a long speech but I totally agree with the way you see things and that's exactly how I see it.

Let's wait to hear what Totem will propose to us big spenders.

@FalconAF
That's quite a long speech but I totally agree with the way you see things and that's exactly how I see it.

Yeah, it was long. But here's the real thing about it.

People are saying the Totem "Joker Card" is a "gambling game". Actually, it's not. Why? Because any intelligent gambler knows they can increase their chances of winning by playing a true gambling game smarter than other players do. That's how live poker, video poker, and all card games work.

The "Joker Card" event doesn't allow the player to do that. It's a LOTTERY ONLY. You spend your money to buy CHANCES to win something (a Joker Card). Every time you spend another credit to do that, it's like buying another lottery ticket. And there is NO GUARANTEE you will win ANYTHING when doing it, regardless of how much money you throw at it. Out of ALL the money (THOUSANDS of credits) thrown at the Joker Card game, there were only FIFTY winners of the Joker Cards. You might as well be buying lottery tickets hoping to win the "grand prize", which the probability and odds say isn't gonna happen to you, regardless of how money you throw at it. And here's the worst part. You might OCCASSIONALLY win some credits, but rarely will you win more credits than you spend. It HAS to be that way or Totem would be LOSING money running the Joker Card game.

Yeah, there will be SOME winners. But even 50 winners posting something saying, "Hey! I Won! So it's a good game!" just indicates how little they know about "gambling" and the true cost of it. Or it's the marketing strategy, hoping there are enough customers who don't understand they ARE throwing money away doing it.

And any of the OTHER games that promise I WILL win a card of SOME sort? Sorry, but if the card you are gonna give me is already 5 years old and in 1080p or 720p and I didn't buy it 5 years ago or SINCE then, why on earth do you think I'd be happy winning THAT card to begin with? I haven't wanted it for 5 years already. Heck, just send me something else useless for my hard earned money I give you.

It's not rocket science. I won't call it what it realy is, but marketing executives would use a term relating to the word "preditory" if they did.

AM I against the gambling games here? No! Some people will play them regardlees of how good or bad they may be financially. What I AM against is Totem making making me gamble to GEt some of their INVENTORY I come here to BUY...the Model Cards.

If you want to "play gambling games", make it like a real casino. Money in the machine to gamble, and money out if you win (substitute "credits" for "money" if you want, but it's STILL the same thing). But keep the INVENTORY of what is SOLD here SEPARATE from it. I come here to buy model cards. Not "gamble" or play a "lottery" to get them.