im not saying thers no differnmce, i stated that Virtuagirl, virtualgirl 2, virtualgilHD, and Deskbabes, alkl old products that are not marketed anymore, no new products under any of those banners are made anymore, the site and software are evoling into what we have now istripper, attempting to encompass all usewrs in the one product

I find it insulting that you insist im belieing in a fairytale, when its you raging against progrtessess, dreaming about the past. Totem, are attempting to make things better for all tastes in the one product, like: 15 minutes of XXX content, in a 35 minute card, thats half the card, good value for all.

Totem need to sell crads that have some appeal to everyone, true the most users of istripper seem to like the more normal cards, so therefore more content like that will bve produced, its good business sence. Only totem know what sells, and they are making an effort to cater for all tastes

Infact, the new format might entice those users who dont like XXX to buy these card. the XXX fans would likely still but they card, becuase its got some of what they wanted

he XXX content is the extra entertainment in their own type of card.

that seems about right too me, the XXX is extra content that some istripper cards have, i (repeat) believe Totam no longer wish to manager half a dozen differnt products, they want to merge them into the one product, istripper

One type of card, the XXX simply lets one know this card here has XXX content, Deskbabes are gone, this is what we have now

Well, I see you dont mention iStripperXXX at all in your comment. What I think is important related to Deskbabes and iStripper.

then include istripperXXX, thats just semantics, all that was past seems to be evolving into what is going to be offerend now. Thats just my opinion, i might be wrong,. But it sure feels that way. thanks for reminding me!

I didnt meen to insult you yuufa. I just really miss the original xxx card. Im sorry

Acceptance is very hard part for me to accomplish 😕

I didnt meen to insult you yuufa. I just really miss the original xxx card. Im sorry

its cool, you are a very passionate person, who knows what they want, im sorry things are changing too a format thats not idea for you. But as a very vise and fictional person once said "The needs of the menay outweigh the needs of the few".

I think no one really appreciates the kind of budget Totem run on, no one really knows how close in thre past totyem have come to not exisiting, they have made some tough choices many times in the name of existing as a business. stopping ViP gifts, removing subscriptions, closing the USA studio. and now this. Its to streamline the product, to make a sustainabkle and managable product that caters too an audience as wide as possible

I have a new proposal about new XXX cards.

They should have the same number of clips as a regular card, with:
1)Pole scenes (with various levels of eroticness)
2)Standing scenes (with various levels of eroticness)
3)ALL table scenes are XXX

I think that such cards would satisfy most people here: both the ones wanting more dancing and the ones wanting more xxx action.

Thanks

The biggest thing I miss from the XXX cards is the sound...and the new XXX cards only have 1 or 2 clips with sound. I don't mind the dancing, the poles, or any of the other stuff but I miss the sound. I'd have no problem with your idea *HansSachs* but I I request 4) ALL clips have sound

New card by Mila Azul "Dangerously Hot" (which i bought without doubt because I would like to buy every her card) is classified as a XXX format. But the maximum level of nudity is Full Nudity. There is no xxx level. Please tell me what is wrong?

Mila Azul / Dangerously Hot: the two last Table Clips has been fixed into XXX Clips... but really shame these clips are running out of duration ... very fast 😟

Would have loved to enjoy Mila Azul for longer in that card. 😭

I'm really glad i'm a Triple Diamond Customer otherwise these new xxx cards would be far to much expensieve to spend credits on, I meen what the... is 8mn of XXX content,... (Totem Entertainment, ...)

36mn Total Card Duration
28mn Regular Content Duration
8mn XXX Content Duration

No balance at all between Regular / XXX Content... (XXX Card will be more like Regular Cards, ooohhhhh nooo) 😢

Totem Entertainment I going to say this for the first time: I think the Quality of XXX Performances has been downgraded alot, for example the fingering/masturbate scene from Mila Azul / Dangerously all done in just 4 minutes?? ... it was like..."whoop", "whoop", "whoop".... "Fake Orgasm". There are 8 minutes XXX content in this Card but also they are no related to eachother. So, ... XXX Clip No.1 starts "fresh & All Dressed On" but XXX Clip No.2 aswell!.. So, Mila Azul cannot be aroused at XXX Clip No.2 from her performances done at XXX Clip No.1... Right?...This all was whole different story if her second clip began with Mila Azul being all Wet & Horny and completly naked (Since XXX Clip No.1) ...It is really hard to explain this one, hope I have said this clear & properly.

I really doubt Totem Entertainment watch and check their own product cards on Quality & Performances because I dont think so... some performances are far from realistic, I meen what is the next step? let these models have orgasm in 2 minutes?

😒

@Terbone

This is the original first xxx format attempt

You're still talking about the past and we all know very well what you think of this first attempt

May I remind you again that the next xxx format is yet to be released and will contain an intro clip with audio and three xxx clips with audio said to be at least 5 min each

They also said, once they're out, they will have another poll to get everyone's thoughts on them

Please wait until they start getting released and then share your thoughts about the next step in the xxx shows at that point

Harping on about the past does your cause, which some of us support, more ***** than good



thank you

frustrations, 91hebasu... I need to release it somewhere 😢

Btw Mila Azul / Dangerously Hot just recently released. It was also possible Totem Entertainment had added bit more xxx content as example by some of the cards from Kira Thorn, Tina Kay and Estonika, their cards are new xxx cards aswell. These new xxx cards vary to much. I hope that will be over soon, by the new xxx cards with improvements. 😒

Where do you get the information you're posting Terbone ? I would really like to know where it is so I can read it myself. Seriously.

I'm not aware of any content being "Added" to any of Kira's, Tina's or Estonika's cards and those have been out for a little while

I'm only aware of one card recently released that was somehow missing clips when it was initially released that, as far as I know, were there during QA testing. Those clips were put back. Not "Added".

Ok I will help you 😀 I'm not a English Language Genius but all the source of information comes from the official cards. Clips List, Time Duration, Type of Clip and Maximal Erotism Level met by each Clip.... Hmm some cards really have more clips already then Mila Azul / Dangerously Hot...I believe i picked the right onces but im not sure atm.

Oh, I will explain the 'added' part. I didn't meen they added extra clips afterwards but at the moment they produced such card and releases it to store. A card that is good enough does not need to be more clips added. The meaning of added I meen is on the moment they put all recordings together add it in decent card format. The cards believed I named had some decent XXX clips content. 😊

It was also possible Totem Entertainment had added bit more xxx content as example by some of the cards from Kira Thorn, Tina Kay and Estonika, their cards are new xxx cards aswell.

With this I sentence I want to say I dont understand why Estonika have XXX Cards with some decent XXX Clips, Sound and Time Duration while Mila Azul in comparison just have two clips with duration 4mn. And of course I gave a few examples. 😎

And, Yes.. I do know, cards are how they are and maybe cannot simply be added extra clips BUT the company can record for longer xxx card content in the first place. And that is what I'm telling, and maybe they are able to add extra clips, some sextoy clips for example. Mila Azul dont have them in Dangerousily Hot, who knows....are you part of the team of Totem Entertainment. I think I'm not in position to say what the company is able to do or not. I just make endless suggestions, ideas and Opinions. For them to use to make the software even better IF they see any use of it.

Me saying this all the time and the idea behind it, I dont want the company to produce cards that brings 'fake performances' into the spotlight.

Terbone's Mindset: How fewer the XXX Content is in Time Duration, the more arousal and orgasmes seems to be fake to me.

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I dont have any problems with fake performances at all but dont make it noticable to much in Time Duration. Lets say we see Mila Azul have arousal and orgasm in two different clips of 4 minutes NOT 8 minutes because these two clips of her are not related to eachother. In both xxx clips she starts fresh and all dressed.

As I said already before: I really believe katya clover doesn't want to produce any new xxx cards just because of the limitation with Time Duration in the new xxx format, she doesn't want to fake her arousal and orgasm. Models who doesn't want to fake their orgasmes can nearly impossible perform in the new xxx card format (in 5 a 10 minutes)(seperated clip categories: fingering/sextoy a 5mn each clip)
(Source: Terbone's Brain)

I really hope the new xxx format with improvements will change all this 😊 ohhh of course it will, we will see in the future new xxx cards with improvements atleast 3 table xxx clips with sound and time duration of 5 minutes !! .... but totem entertainment have to relate them with eachother as that it seems more continoues instead of seperate them and dressed up the model each time when a other xxx clip starts.

I guess now peeple are about to 'attack' me any moment because I have spoken not just for myself but aswell for all the models, how is that even possible, Terbone?? Well, my answer would be: There is no woman on earth that will have an arousal and orgasm in just 4 a 5 minutes. My bio-teacher told me once womans have to work harder and longer in duration to reach the same erotism arousal level as Man does. By man sexual arousal starts alot earlier. Thats why the sexual Foreplay is soooooo important 😜

A decent Erotic Foreplay by Woman already have a Time Duration of minimal 5 minutes. 😊

This is one thread i truly regret reading and shall not return to. Terbone just keeps on whining like a kid that had its blanket taken away. 😭😭😭

@Terbone if you don't like the way this wonderful platform has evolved, why don't you just leave and look for something that satisfies your needs. DON'T BOTHER REPLYING, I AM SICK OF YOUR WHINING AND WON'T READ ANY MORE.

OK Terbone

Let's try this again

I was asking about this comment in particular........

It was also possible Totem Entertainment had added bit more xxx content as example by some of the cards from Kira Thorn, Tina Kay and Estonika, their cards are new xxx cards as well.

The question I was asking was "Where did you get the information about content being added to Kira's, Tina's and Estonika's cards ?".

I know where you got the info about the clips and their running time and we can discuss the other stuff you mentioned some other time


(BTW, I did see the response you apparently deleted. Thanks for removing it.)

The question I was asking was "Where did you get the information about content being added to Kira's, Tina's and Estonika's cards ?".

I dont have information you seek about 'added' content because it dont exist and so far I know Totem have not added extra clips in into their cards aswell. But the Cards of these Models are huge in XXX Content in first place, from production. You are right by saying there was one card fixed recently because that card suppose to have two xxx clips but had one xxx clip.

I entirly understand you why you ask me about the information if I read back my own comment, took awhile from me to notice this one. I used a wrong word in that comment, 'added' is not the proper word I used but had to be corrected into 'produced' instead. Sorry, wrong words can sometimes lead to ***** 😳

Honest apologize.

For those who like to know this. I really am able to enjoy the New XXX Cards, the models doing dancing and pole performances in these New XXX Cards is a positive decission. I think, I needed to get used to it, to the dancing and pole peformances in XXX Cards. I have purchesed all of the New XXX Cards and I do enjoy the entertainment given in those Cards. It just needs more XXX Content and the upcomming Improvements will most likely offer us all that extra XXX Content. (I still need to solve the music/sound conflict, somehow 😵)

My posted comments in the past are not able to be changed. Once posted = posted, they are very repetitieve and not positieve at all... Best Customers, I cannot take back everything I wrote... but my mentality about the New XXX Format/Cards has changed alot. I would like to accept the New XXX Card with Improvements soon with Open Arms and that is a very positieve thing,.. because I ***** it away before.

Afterall, I still recommend Team Totem to go into production with the Original XXX Cards and New XXX Cards with Improvements together, as third type of Card. The production will look like: 2x Regular Cards, 2x New XXX Cards and 2x Original XXX Cards of each new upcomming Model OR 6x Regular Cards, if the model doesnt like to do any XXX performances.

Thanks for reading,

Terbone,
Deskbabes-Customer 😎

@Terbone - for me the 2-2-2 split between your three card categories is far too heavily weighted in favour of XXX cards. For me just two or three cards per week with any XXX content is about right, e.g. a 5-2-1 or 5-1-2 split over a week.

@Terbone - for me the 2-2-2 split between your three card categories is far too heavily weighted in favour of XXX cards. For me just two or three cards per week with any XXX content is about right, e.g. a 5-2-1 or 5-1-2 split over a week.

5x Regular Cards
2x New XXX Cards
1x Original XXX Cards

OR

5X Regular Cards
1x New XXX Cards
2x Original XXX Cards

Ok, that would meen I have to choose between one or another type of card OR the company can vary between these two card setups once in awhile. But I have no problem to offer 1 XXX Card in exchange for 3x more Regular Cards. 😄

I understand my 2-2-2 Card Setup is more based on "XXX" Cards and I do agree with you. I try to keep New XXX Cards & Original XXX Cards at equal amount of cards, what is your opinion about this card setup below?

4x Regular Cards
2x New XXX Cards
2x Original XXX Cards

@91hebasu

Just out of curiosity, when will the new XXX format be available?

As @91hebasu posted in the Incoming new cards thread....

I'll go ahead and say this even though I know some people will disagree and won't care much for it..........

I think it's wrong for people who don't particularly like XXX content and didn't buy many DB cards as a result, if any, to have ANY say in what the new XXX cards have in them

To me, the current line up of iStripperXXX cards are nothing more than standard cards with a pathetic joke of a tease of XXX content............A watered down and "Butchered" DeskBabes

It seems the members that really liked the DB cards have been ***** and tossed aside and the members that don't really like the XXX content are somehow determining what direction this new iStripperXXX takes

The people that really liked DB are most likely NOT buying many of the new ones, if any of them, because of what's been done to their beloved DB and the people that didn't like DB are probably buying more of the new ones because they like what was done

That being said, I know that sales are the ultimate factor in determining what direction iStripper takes and, if the new XXX cards are selling way better, we'll never see anything near what we were getting with DeskBabes again

I myself am very disappointed. I won't harp on about it day after day, week after week and month after month about it though.

The majority will rule and, when the people that don't care for the XXX content hugely out number the people that love it, the people that don't care for the XXX stuff will rule.

That is just my personal opinion as a member

Very well said @91hebasu, THANK YOU !!!!

My opinion is I am also disappointed in the current iStripperxxx content. I have not bought all DeskBabes/iStripperxxx classic content, mostly all solos & 50-60 percent duos. But I have continued to buy IStripperxxx cards as I DON'T want iStripperxxx to go away & want Totem to stay in business. Maybe the new version of iStripperxxx coming next month will be closer to the original DeskBabes content.

We will see........
Just my added 2 cents........

I think it not "wrong" for a paying customer to have and express an opinion about any product on this site. If I feel that deskbabes type content is taking away from my enjoyment of the product I SHOULD express it. My impressions is that deskbabes was more expensive, and sold less, and therefore lost money for the company. That means there was less money for casting of more expensive, experienced, and talented dancers.
My personal preference is that totem stops shooting pictures, videos, and having a seperate category for xxx cards. The card should just be tagged as xxx and dildo if that is accurate. The only thing that appeals to me for this product is the hottest girls in the world putting on the best performance. I can find video and naked pictures of nearly every girl for free, and I can find sitting-solo dildo content for free as well. I can't find these girls dancing with energy and activity anywhere other than with totem. I don't care what the xxx-lovers do, but everyone is entitled to express their thoughts. Deskbabes was a money sink, it diminished the quality of the overall product. If totem wants to be rid of it, it makes sense for many reasons.

**Comment to Orclover**
The Original XXX Cards (Deskbabes) needed improvements, yeah! the main reason for the money sink by Deskbabes Cards was because it was repititieve and boring (for some among us, not for myself in special)

It is just a shame the majority of the customers and the company Totem Entertainment have just 'SKIPPED' the oppertunity to improve such beautiful type of card format, but instead alot of energy and time effort is focussed on to create a New type of Regular Soft/XXX Card. 😕

Orclover, I can suggest tons of ideas to improve the Original XXX Format WITHOUT using 'one' single Regular Card Feature(s). But all of my suggestion doesn't make sense at all anymore because Totem Entertainment have started a New Product Line and they are only focussed to improve the New XXX Format. I'm 200% assured if we all Customers did honest our best to improve the Original XXX Card (Suggestions), we still would have beautifull XXX Deskbabes Cards but with improvements, not with any regular card features at all! (A Type of Product dont have to be a "Money Sink" with some decent Feedbacks and Suggestions, example: like we already do with making Ideas & Suggestions by "Regular Cards").

The company have stopped with the Original XXX Cards for now BUT I think they will never will stop with XXX Content. Customers (myself included) already ask for more and more... and even more XXX Content...right now (and who knows what happens soon when we face the New XXX Card Improvements) How would you imagine? this software completely removed from XXX Content? Only Dance-Performance? ... that would be the reason/moment for me to take my leave and 'never' return. I'm not going to spend 1 á 2 TB+ HDD Disk Space only for "Dancing-Performances". 😳

I hope Totem Entertainment will give me another oppertunity to suggest my ideas about the Original XXX Format with Improvements by going into production with three types of Cards (4x Regular, 2x New XXX Format and 2x Original XXX Format).

@orclover, I respectfully have to disagree with you on the issue of photos. You may have no use for these, but all of us that do artwork in the forum need these.

You cannot find these kind of pictures of porn stars anywhere, not these types of poses with an all white background, so that we can remove the model and paste her elsewhere. No other porn site does these kind of pictures, none, ever, and probably never will.

I was amazed that Totem does shoot full body shots on a white background and encourages members to create art with them. Without these pictures the forum would be boring for me and I would probably stop visiting it and just enjoy the girls on my desktop.

I have made many friends on this site that I would never have known if it weren't for the artwork we share.

I would agree that we can find more, better, and longer videos of most of the models on other sites, but this is a tool for many of us to see the model naked before purchasing a card, since the demos are clothed. I would not be opposed to eliminating the videos if the demos included more nudity, so we know what we are buying.

But, please, don't take my pictures away!

To support @Paintsnudes: I use these collection Photos and Videos aswell, I dont like to see them removed in upcomming future cards. I put them on my "Android" devices because android themselves are not supporting 18+ Erotic Content at all. And as Paintnudes already mentioned, these Photo's are master pieces for Art Purposes. 😊

I regard the photo sets and images as a *****, but important, part of iStripper and would be opposed to their removal should that ever be seriously proposed.

As they said^^^^^^^^

Without Totem's photos, the artwork part of the forum will disappear. This part of the forum, imho helps keep peeps in touch with what's going on and also entertains members.

We have:

Replacement Card threads.

User created desktops.

Skins.

Comics.

And probably a few more things derived from the use of Totem's photos.

No way can we lose the photos. That might ***** the forum completely! 😧

Very well said @91hebasu, THANK YOU !!!! x2