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brudermurus
Joined in Dec 2011

47 post(s)
March 28, 2014
Hi , i really have a problem with how i get treated by "wildanimal" mod.

as you can see in this thread, i posted a rumor, to encourage people to write and post in that thread.
http://www.virtuagirl.com/forumPost.php?foId=3&ftId=27263
Everything about iStripper / New Rumors LEAKED ?! Virtua Girl goes Cosplay ? OMG Interview with anonymous !
Rumors leaked! This Year 2014 a new Project on Virtuagirl is about to start. A new genre wich showsthe beautifull Totem-girls in Cosplay. But first of all ... what is Cosplay ? Cosplay, short for "cos...
i didnt know that posting pics from other sites is not allowed.

but ok if it violated the the posting rules i dont protest against deleting them.

But what i am protesting against is how some people threaten me

like VIP: 91hebasu "It will only be a matter of time for the Team to decide that needing to post a comment in every one of the threads you open in order to say that there is no truth to what you say is taking up too much of their time and shut you down........completely."

he threatens me to be shut down COMPLETELY as if it WAS in his hands to decide OVER ME.

i was not informed what mistake i did... or warned what mistake i did ... instead... i was told that i should read the rules ...

maybe it fair to take the privilege to let me write in forums for 2 weeks for not reading the rules ... and of course i agree that the pics were taken out...

but why is the thread closed ? its totally unfair

the thread was very popular and MANY people agreed to my idea ... and yet im being treaten like this for being innovative ...
Oquijan
Joined in May 2009

1549 post(s)
March 29, 2014
Well, thing is, there are rules for posting. Several users gave you hints about it, not cause they are the police, but cause they are long time users and know the ways around.

To that you replied in the terms of: "I don't give a damn about regular users and only a mod can tell me off".

Well, a mod told you off, so what are you ***** about?

More often than not, an attitude like that toward other members and the open defiance of the rules gonna bring ya no hapiness.

And what you quoted from Hebasu, is just another way to explain to ya this part of the "terms and conditions":

"Our members must also respect the spirit and tone of our community. Breaking these terms and conditions which includes failing to respect the spirit and tone of the community or postings/ emails which demand a disproportionate amount of time and moderation by the Community Team may result in your account being suspended or, in extreme cases, banned. The length of suspension will be at the discretion of our team and can be permanent. If your account is suspended or banned, you will be prevented from posting on our boards or registering new accounts with us."

So live and learn, and that is just a regular user advice.

Cartref
MODERATOR
Joined in Sep 2007

520 post(s)
March 29, 2014
Your complaint has been reviewed by another Mod, me.

Your complaint is totally without foundation and WA did has he was supposed to.

1. You ignored the rules when you posted and you accept the rules and their consequences when you first posted.
2. There is a warning at the top of the page saying do not post non totem nudity, which you ignored.
3. Despite repeated warnings from a mod, you continued with your posting of nudity.
4. You were warning by other senior members, which you deliberately ignored.
5. You show by your above post that you do not understand the rules or have not bothered to read them.
6. In the extract of the forum rules is a clear statement "includes failing to respect the spirit and tone of the community or postings/ emails which demand a disproportionate amount of time and moderation by the Community Team may result in your account being suspended or, in extreme cases, banned."

In my opinion, you are doing exactly that. If you have to be spoken to by another mod, you will indeed be banned for a period.

This IS your LAST warning

Cartref
Wyldanimal
MODERATOR
Joined in Mar 2008

3917 post(s)
March 29, 2014
@brudermurus

I sent you a PM. Yes I said I was revoking your Forum Privileged for 2 weeks..
But then gave it a second thought and left it go as just a warning..
"Maybe He just didn't know the Rules..."

I hope that you will take time to read the rules, and not have such an attitude towards other members.

I closed the thread because the Exchange was becoming unpleasant.

"i thank you very much ... but i dont really give a damn about regular users opinion :) "

" calm down ... have a wank... have a kitkat"


I just didn't want it to turn into an all out bickering match.
so it was closed to Cool it off..

any member who wants the thread re-opend can PM one of the MOD's including myself.



brudermurus
Joined in Dec 2011

47 post(s)
March 30, 2014 (edited)
@cartref : there was no repeating warning from any mods at all --- your claim is the one that is without foundation.
There was no warning " before " ... it was " notified " and the pictures deleted some time after i already posted it ...

So dont put it that way like i was warned before and ignored it just because you see the notification of the mod . All deleted pics and warning came much later and at the same time ! so there was no "waring" before ! ( check edit dates of mod. notification )

Instead i get threatened by a " senior " member in a very rude way that i will be " shut down ...completely " ...

read here his comment

"It will only be a matter of time for the Team to decide that needing to post a comment in every one of the threads you open in order to say that there is no truth to what you say is taking up too much of their time and shut you down........completely."

So his problem was not the nude Pictures nor that i violated some rules ( which i honestly didnt remember since i joined SOME YEARS AGO !! ) ... he simply threatens me to be shut down COMPLETELY just because i " ***** " mods to answere on my thread by claiming some rumors ... as if he is the one to decide what happens to my life ... he thinks he is the boss ... i dont have 1000 cards nor 1000 posts ... but im part of this community for a long time and i deserve some nice treatment and nice words ...

instead i get threatened again by mod Cartreff that this is my last warning as if i did ANYTHING WRONG ( except posting nude pics which rules i red more than 2,5 years ago ) .

Maybe the way i opened my thread by claiming to know rumors is provoking or " trapping " but i dont ***** anyone by posting such thread and no one is ***** to answere or vote in my threads...

I seemed to entertain some users and i got many positive reaction and agreement to my idea ! 71 % Loved my idea of Cosplay in virtuagirl .

maybe it got too much attention and made some people angry ... but thats no excuse for threats at all ! and especially not for " LAST WARNINGS " for one simple mistake !

im very unhappy with the treatment here !


ps.: @oquijan : when i said " i dont give a damn about regular users opinion it was a reaction to the user that already thretened me to shut me down COMPLETELY "
brudermurus
Joined in Dec 2011

47 post(s)
March 30, 2014
that user who threatened me to be " shut down completely "( as if he is the boss ) got no warning at all for being so harsh to other members ...
MrBeeKeeper
Joined in Jul 2012

293 post(s)
March 30, 2014 (edited)
@brudermurus, May I ask something ... Your topic was about rumors, means, about pure speculations, right? There wasn't a lot of entertainment, if to talk about the poll. Honestly. Poll about rumors ... Nonsense actually.

Now you claim that this was your Idea.... That's something completely different, isn't it? So your idea was to turn the whole current VG format into a Mardi Gras? And you think that members will really love that ...?
I guess they got just a misleading picture that you suggested more fantasy outfits and accessories, that's all, but you wanted to change the look of the whole VG program ... Not a good idea I guess.

However, I may be wrong.

Just one more thing, though: this thread - ***** ... to whom are you ***** about and about what?

Seems that you still haven't learned anything yet, don't ya? Though you've already got the best possible advice: - "So live and learn, and that is just a regular user advice. " ...
Oquijan
Joined in May 2009

1549 post(s)
March 30, 2014 (edited)
Hum, Reading again what Hebasu posted to ya, he said "it will only be a matter of time before the TEAM...etc." The "Team" is Totem. Hebasu never said HE would shut ya down nor that he would tell the Team to shut you down.

So I see not a treat, but an advice. And that advice is that nobody is reacting to your ideas in a bad way, but you think is funny to present them as "rumors" and is not the first time. A rumor, unless based on actual inside info, is just disinformation. You're ***** the company or even the mods to disclaim your disinformation and that takes time and pisses off more than one person. The company has a commitment to their customers to be accurate on the info they provide, so a joke to you is not a joke to them in that matter.

I have no problem with your ideas, (yet there are several threads suggesting cosplay outfits before yours), but instead of let some people to think that what you came up with is true, I would suggest you disclaim yourself and add to your threads on this style that nothing is true and is just for fun.

Lastly, I never heard of any team member, in all me years here, leaking info about the company or any plans they might have for the future. Whenever they want to gives us a hint or an advance they just do that. Whenever there's some info known to only a few selected users, those users are the mods and the QA and none of them leak anything ever. So not disclaiming yourself is what is, IMO, wrong with that.

Almost everybody makes a mistake posting stuff, so just accept you made a mistake and follow the rules in the future and all should be fine.
brudermurus
Joined in Dec 2011

47 post(s)
March 30, 2014
what my thread intended to be or to do is not the issue here ...

there is no point in the rules that forbids to create " rumors " or " lies " to make people discuss over it... its not the first time i opened a thread like this and its definatelly not the last time...

when i get users to post in my thread and to discuss my ideas, for me its better than sex ... i enjoy it when users start arguing and " battling " over my ideas ...

and believe it or not !!!! ---> i have very very great success in moving companies to invest in ideas

honestly ... i would like to have a subcathegory " cosplay " or " phantasy "

and as it turned out als 71% would like this too MAN (this is not few)!!!!!! only

but because a fight between me and another user the thread was closed ! i didnt get the hint that the nude pics are against the rules ...

i was just told by a regular " senior " member to read the rules ... but was more distracted about that he threatened me to get shut down ....

i know such people and he made me angry ... so i reacted also harsh but telling him to have a wank and calm down ...

still no reason to close a VERY POPULAR THREAD about my idea which (by the way)unusualy MANY PEOPLE LOVED !!!!

i understand punishment and deleting pics ... but i have no understanding for closing my thread which was absolutely innocent
Wyldanimal
MODERATOR
Joined in Mar 2008

3917 post(s)
March 30, 2014
@brudermurus

Your Thread was shut down Not because of it being Misleading and about Cosplay.

It was closed because there was contention starting between you and other Senior members.

I didn't see any Threats made to you. Just some very sound Advice from members who have been here a long time and understand the rules.

Some Advice which you took offense too
and then came back with some cocky remarks.

So before it turned into a free for all..

It was closed.

I also didn't ban you from Forum Activity.
You're some what New to our Forums, so I gave the the Benefit of:
"Ok he's new, Needs to learn the ropes.."

But so far is obvious, you don't want to learn the rules, or take sound advice.

As Cartref above has said.

no more warning will be given.
So I suggest you stop the confrontational posts,
chill out.

And start a more constructive thread.

Because if I have to spend one more second of my time addressing you and your issues, It won't be to warn you or inform you.
Wyldanimal
MODERATOR
Joined in Mar 2008

3917 post(s)
March 30, 2014 (edited)
Thread like yours tend to "TAUNT" the attention of the Team.
The CEO / OWNER - REX, Whom has already taken time to post in one of your threads with Disinformation about "RUMORS"
http://www.virtuagirl.com/forumPost.php?foId=3&ftId=26906&pageNb=1#post418227
Everything about iStripper / RUMORS Virtuagirl goes WEBCAM ???!!!
I have heared some Rumors recently that there will be the Oportunity to chat and cam with a Virtuagirl every Friday ... I wanted to know if these Rumors are true and if yes how much will be the paymen...
In the terms and Conditions:
http://www.virtuagirl.com/termsAndConditions.php

Our members must also respect the spirit and tone of our community. Breaking these terms and conditions which includes failing to respect the spirit and tone of the community or postings/ emails which demand a disproportionate amount of time and moderation by the Community Team may result in your account being suspended or, in extreme cases, banned. The length of suspension will be at the discretion of our team and can be permanent. If your account is suspended or banned, you will be prevented from posting on our boards or registering new accounts with us.

So a Thread, claiming to be rumored by a Totem Employee, is asking for a disproportionate amount of time to be used to dispel the Rumor.

SparrowsEdge
Joined in Feb 2014

1 post(s)
August 2, 2014 (edited)
I like the software but I don't understand why it is bundled with the PUP virus. If I remove the PUP virus the Virtuagirl software is removed. If I reinstall Virtuagirl, I get the PUP virus complete with POPUP adds, changing my default webpage and default search engine. Is there any way to get your software without viruses (addware) attached?
91hebasu
Joined in Jan 2008

1146 post(s)
August 3, 2014
@SparrowsEdge

Not really the right place for this post. The Bugs and Fixes Category is where you should post requests for assistance.

There is no adware, malware or viruses included with this software. You need to download directly from the sites download page. The current version is 1.2.0.12.

For VirtuaGirl
http://www.virtuagirl.com/download2.php

For DeskBabes
http://www.deskbabes.com/download2.php



Any outside source is likely to have such things as adware, malware and viruses. It is not recommended to get the software from anywhere other than directly from Totem's Download Page. Another source is not supported either.
MrBeeKeeper
Joined in Jul 2012

293 post(s)
August 3, 2014
@SparrowsEdge

There is a difference .. PUP (Potentially Unwanted Program) is not a Virus.
If you're downloading programs from sites which offer freeware, you may get some kind of PUP in addition every time. Those sites get paid for spreading adware. That's their business. But PUPs can be avoided as well, if you're careful enough about, what exactly you're going to install and read all the messages .. and not all the PUPs are malicious ..

PUPs can be different: toolbars, search engines, add ons, etc .. but matters that some of them tend to change some of your computer default settings (taking over default search, browser's homepage and so on) and so to get an access to your browsing habits and personal data (online banking, mailbox ..). So they may spy after you, plus make your computer more vulnerable to real viruses.

Malwarebytes Anti-Malware usually removes ***** extras before installation without touching the main program, but yes, downloading software directly from vendor's site is always the safest way.
Wyldanimal
MODERATOR
Joined in Mar 2008

3917 post(s)
August 3, 2014
While what MrBeeKeeper has posted is True about PUP's (Potentially Unwanted Program)
The Important thing is:

There are No PUP's in VirtuaGirl or DeskBabes
There is no adware, malware or viruses in software.

brudermurus
Joined in Dec 2011

47 post(s)
November 23, 2014
sorry guys but i have to bring this up again since i feel treated unfair by a mod .


I recentliy posted a rumor wich said that "Grupa Models" are touring through europe and propably coming to Virtua girl .

here is the thread " http://www.virtuagirl.com/forumPost.php?foId=3&ftId=28965 "

the rumor says that ""grupa models" will come to europe" comming for a erotic fotoshooting in france ... my question was if you think they will come to work for VGHD and i casted a poll to see what people think of this idea ...

it didnt say anything about totem sending invitation to "grupa models"


then i recieved a very harsh PM by an moderator (anonymous)

--------------------------------

You can create your "rumors" elsewhere and you are a just a member here that will follow the moderators indications, this is not a democracy. I don't need to create any new rules for you, they are already here:

"Message Rules
2.To harass, threaten, embarrass or cause ***** or discomfort upon another participant, user, or other individual or entity;

3.To transmit or publish via the Community any information, data, text, files, links, software, or other materials ("Content") that Totem Entertainment considers to be unlawful, *****, threatening, *****, harassing, defamatory, vulgar, obscene, *****, racially, ethnically or otherwise objectionable;

5.To disrupt the normal operations in the Community or otherwise act in a manner that negatively affects other participants.

8.Any posting which violates the Community Standards will be removed and Totem Entertainment reserves the right to close accounts of any persistent ***** of these Standards.

Breaking our rules by not respecting the spirit and tone of the community or posting something that demands a disproportionate amount of time and moderation by our team may lead us to suspend or -in extreme cases, to bannish your account."

We are not here to be your toys. Your "rumors" give extra time to the moderators team and also take time from the Totem team to post and deny your rumors. And for your own fun you just like to nislead other users. You are violating the T&S and you will not get away with it.

Do it again and you will be banned and for a very long time. I don't want to hear anything else about this from you. Final warning.

Is that CLEAR?

-----------------------------


I think its unfair to treat me this way...

We live in Civilyzed world and not in North Korea or China to be censored in such a harsh way and being threatened to be banned for a long time for simply posting a new threat about a think that i have heared...

since my post didnt harass, threaten, embarrass or cause ***** or discomfort ANYONE ...

i dont know what rule i broke to be threatened in such a manner ...

i believe in freedom of speach ... and a member ( who also payyyyyyzzzz ) should have the right to share his thought in a respectfull way .

Since my last rumor seemed to be correct and Virtua Girl DID GO WEBCAM !!! Or my post inspired the creators make Virtua Girl go webcam, i think i deserve some credits !!!

instead i get dubious threats for living up this forum and encouraging people to talk and have conversation and sharte thoughts ... ( isnt that the main thought behind the board ?)

i demand an apology for this behave and i want my threat ( that seemed to have lots of interests and positiv votes ) to be reopened ...
91hebasu
Joined in Jan 2008

1146 post(s)
November 23, 2014
I don't see any apologies being made by any of the Mods for doing our job.

From our point of view, what you're doing is spinning lies to try to be disruptive and cause a disproportionate amount of time spent to disprove those lies.

Nope, you don't deserve any credits for pulling lies out of your *** and being disruptive. You're imagining things if you believe you had anything to do with the creation/collaboration of VirtuaGirl Live. A quote from Rex's announcement....

"We've been working with this live show since 1998 and you can trust its honesty and dedication to quality."

Note the date ? That's 1998. Long before you even thought of creating a disruptive thread.

Every time you open one of those so called rumor threads, it ends up closed and you *****.

Is obvious that you don't care to know the rules for posting. Even after them being sent in the form of a PM. That would be why you don't know what you did wrong and continue to repeat history while claiming ignorance. Over and over.

You should know that demands are not taken very well around here either.

No.....This mod will not be re-opening the thread. You were also told that one needs to be the last. Open another one along those lines and it will be closed as well.
vixen01
Joined in Mar 2008

83 post(s)
November 23, 2014
The thread title is completely misleading to the membership
NEW RUMORS : Grupa Model soon in Virtua Girl 4K

be a little more thoughtful of your topic titles and you wont get problems. BUT you purposefully make out you know things that are completely fictitious and only part of your little fantasy world

when opening a thread
title it something like Would you like to see Grupa Models at VG

and your poll and there is no ***** as to members believing a rumor of girls coming that actually are not, this is the third time you opened a topic labelled as rumors, and the third time you got pulled up about it, better to learn by your mistakes than to continue making them over and over again and might I add posting that is your intention to be disruptive

by brudermurus - 238 day(s) ago
what my thread intended to be or to do is not the issue here ...

there is no point in the rules that forbids to create " rumors " or " lies " to make people discuss over it... its not the first time i opened a thread like this and its definatelly not the last time...

when i get users to post in my thread and to discuss my ideas, for me its better than sex ... i enjoy it when users start arguing and " battling " over my ideas ...


You don't deserve any apology, you have had the warnings before and ignored them ;)

You were asked to post links to where you heard these rumors you didn't, as for what rules you are breaking it's simple, look at the text every time you make a post "posting something that demands a disproportionate amount of time and moderation by our team may lead us to suspend or -in extreme cases, to bannish your account."

posting lies that demand the moderators and team to post to counteract such lies is demanding of their time
notdeadyet
Joined in Feb 2012

143 post(s)
November 23, 2014
Basically Mods are like special constables.
They do a hard and thankless job and you are giving them grief for it.

And a Rumour is something you have heard not something you have made up
brudermurus
Joined in Dec 2011

47 post(s)
November 23, 2014
posting " lies " doesnt demand any mod to interfear correct... a forum is made for peope to discuss ... obviously fake or not ... lie or truth ... when 17 like it ...5 find it interesting ... and 6 dislike it... then it is ABSOLUTELY NOT REASONABLE , to say that i did something against the rules ...

this is a free board where you can express your thought ... and not the regime of kim jong un

true ! maybe the creator of Virtua girls had the idea since 1998 ... but it seems like my idea of Virtua cam was the " initial zündung " to start virtua live ...

i am fun ... entertaining ... loved by many in the board ... and i encourage people to create and do something new ... OF COURSE i deserve some credits ! at least one free card of "Jasmin andreas "

@ mods ... stop interfearing in peoples threads ... especially when they are harmless... entertaining ... and liked by F*cking 17 5 people !!! just because 6 dont like it
The3LeggedMan
Joined in Feb 2010

369 post(s)
November 23, 2014
@brudermurus, imagine if everyone started doing what you did. Rumors about Virtuagirl coming to the US! Rumors about Deskbabes now inluding boy/girl scenes! It would be chaos. Members wouldn't know what the hell is true or false, Mods would be in every thread trying to clarify the facts. Is this what you want? The forum to turn into tabloid stories?

Vixen01 already gave you the solution, just drop "rumor" from your threads so it won't ***** people. Especially in these times when Totem is going through many changes with the new software, they don't need any fake rumors mixing with the facts they're putting out.
Oquijan
Joined in May 2009

1549 post(s)
November 23, 2014
And, as said, you're on vacation, brudermurus.

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