I read recently that in Natali Blond's latest show (Street Style 491), one of her clips involved some penetration with one of the props and it was taken away. They say it was "mistakenly added" but even if it was, why take it away?

I know a lot of people here don't want that sort of hardcore action in the shows, and obviously it IS NOT 99% of the shows. But if one of the models is feeling naughty and wants to go above and beyond the call of duty (bless their souls), why ban it? For those who don't want to see it, they can simply right click that one show and select the "don't play this clip again" option. And it's not like they're gonna have to watch out for that sort of thing in every single card now.

Also, I did not see either in the help section or in the end user license agreement that this sort of act would be banned or that we would never find that sort of thing here. So Totem, please consider putting that clip back in Natali's card.

Well, they haven't taken it out yet. At least according to TotemRex:

"We had a meeting a few weeks ago about that line in the sand. We're letting the girls play with themselves at the end of clips if they feel like it, but it has to remain tastefull. We also said an absolute no to toys, so I don't get why/how this has been released, will check with the team on Monday."

He says they will check into it on Monday.

So if you want it, you better get it now! Hehe!

I wonder how many people spent two tickets to buy this card?

I did.

If the card is so "offensive"....then why is the rating so high???

The really funny thing is all of a sudden Natali Blond's controversial card has suddenly sprung to second place just below Monica Scott. The natives 'round here sure are vocalizing their true feelings in a somewhat subtle yet obvious manner. This was originally one of her lower rated cards. Not any more . . . Gee, I wonder why ??? . . .hehe

Could it all have just been a ploy to get more members to buy the card?

Is it a conspiracy?

They might have backed themselves into a corner with this. If that clip is what people say it is and they pull it, they a lot of people will be pissed.

Well, it was inevidible. Natali's card is now in first place. Lot's of people are definitely now gonna want to see the controversial clips, even those who are against them but are just plain curious. @ObsidianDragon may very well be right.

If Totem deletes it from the database. It's like possesing an issued coin with a minting mistake. Way more valuable than the regular version of the issued coin.

i don't see why peple were so offended, its not like they'd still want to watch the girls dance with their cloths on, when i first heard the hype i spent about 10 minutes tryin to get the clip to play, best show eva

Saying that she's now in first place is (IMO) a massive understatement. 4 out of the 5 top cards are her cards. I think the larger customer base is making itself very clear.

I don't have Natali's card in my collection, but I agree with these posters, that it should be allowed in her show. If people don't want to watch it, all they have to do is click do not play this clip again, if it is offensive to them. For those who would prefer to watch clips such as this, it is available, and therefore I believe it would be in totem's best interests to keep the clip in, that way everyone is pleased and I believe their sales of such cards will increase, which is the reason they are in business.

I just wonder what the sales figures are for this card are now that all this has started? I bet they are waaay up there.

the Ratings speake for themselves ^^

ALL of her cards are in the top 15 right now. Hehe.

Whaaaaaaat????? they'd better NOT take that clip out or i along with other people will be really pissed, so i have four words for totem and i'm only saying this because i like you guys, LEAVE THE CLIP IN!!!

The clip has not been and won't be removed from his card.

Thanks a lot everyone for replying, and especially Totem for leaving the clip in. I honestly didn't expect the clip to be left in because it was a moderator who was pushing so hard for it to be taken out. Glad to see Totem will listen to its fans.

But if you don't want to see the clip, all you have to do is right click and choose not to play the clip ever again. Since Totem has drawn the line now this is probably the only time you'll have to do it. There's no reason for anyone to get so upset over it.

And of course, many, many thanks to the gorgeous Natali for being so awesome and sexy.

The recent reviews of her card say that the clip has been taken out and replaced with a "watered-down version."

Can anybody confirm?

YES!

When did this theft happen?
Can anyone tell the date?

Well, obviously before I had to redownload it :-(
So it's theft and a rip-off: I had paid this card *because* it was more explicit. TotemRex promised they won't delete it (See earlier this thread). I request the original version, which for sure not only I paid for only because it was the way it was, to be restored or I'll have to consider legal actions.
German Law is pretty clear on advertised features resp. taking away features already licensed to a customer...
Nearly no foreign license with limitations of the consumer rights survives at a German court.
For example: Germany is the only market where Windows XP Media Center Edition HAS TO BE SOLD seperately (and not only together with a new PC) BY LAW.

@Rex, @honkytonkwoman, @SpaceRat75 and anyone else who has read this thread, I humbly apologise if it seems that I have mislead anybody, I misunderstood the question and answered incorrectly to honkytonkwoman.
Rex was completely truthful in saying "The clip has not been and won't be removed from his card. ".
I put that card on a playlist of its own and watched it over and over and over over and over over and over over and over over and over over and over over and over over and over over and over over and over over and over over and over over and over over and over over and over over and over over and over over and over over and over over and over over and over over and over over and over and many times,
its a very good clip,
"AND DOES EXIST",
"SORRY TO CAUSE ANY TROUBLE!!!"

YES, the clip IS there but it's nothing to get all upset about even if it were not there !!! She plays with a lotion bottle, a cheap plastic one at that and if it is inserted at all it's only a max of about one inch and that don't much more than get inside the lips .... lol It ain't like she inserts the whole thing and has a gushing orgasm .... rotfl
Calm down all, nothing has been removed, I downloaded it the first day, copied that folder to another location and downloaded it again just recently to see what all the bitching was about. In comparing the two, I see no difference !!!!

Totem, the card in question is my favorite card in VGHD.

hum...i dled it a couple days ago and I think it's edited? when she plays with the bottle its a side view and you cant even see whether or not she really puts it in! is this the original or edited? :(

the clip is there, trust me, it really does exist

I think the original IS the side view. This makes the whole brou ha over that clip all the more *****! This and the ensuing editing changes have helped me to understand that as beautiful & sexy as it is, VGHD is a conservative sex site. I suddenly saw my views as being way more liberal than European style that I had deemed to be way more open to alive sensual sex. I am not berating Totem for this, just acknowledging the difference. I am hoping that this new extension "one player many different styles of content" can give reality to this vision of VGHD/Totem.Hot, sexy, sensual,alive,joyous, honestly explicit,creative,horny, sexual expression.
Totem has said that explicit action would also be frowned on by some servers or something also. Merging content with service will, I hope allow us to get sexy stuff ala Natali "Coconut Milk", on a regular basis. She's soo naturally alive in her sexual expressiveness here! Do get all these exp. girls' early cards! Mia,Mai,Marie,Monica,Sharka too!

The clip is 34405 - it is there - unedited and uncut.
The "insertion" was never visible - it only "looked" like there
was insertion as it is a side view.

From Patrick-
The clip is 34405 - it is there - unedited and uncut.
The "insertion" was never visible - it only "looked" like there
was insertion as it is a side view.


This is the most complete and best explanation.

And to complete it, there wasn't never more in this clip! Not, when it passed the QI and not when Jununger posted the first Screen shots.
If he's back from "vacation" you can have a look at the entire thread "Totem you crossed the line" and have a look on the screenshots.