Car rien n'est certain pour les gens qui joue dans le but d'obtenir des cartes SEC.

Ce qui est certain, maintenant, depuis que totem utilise de façon régulière la barre de progression c'est que vous obtiendrez la carte SEC mise en jeu. Ce qui l'est moins est ce que cela va vous couter. Depuis que je joue, ces cartes m'ont toujours fait dépenser des crédits. Rarement un bénéfice a été observé dans ce système. Mais c'est le principe du jeu. Quelques chanceux pour de nombreux malchanceux 😆

What is certain now, since totem regularly uses the progress bar, is that you will get the SEC card put into play. What is less certain is what it will cost you. Since I've been playing, these cards have always made me spend credits. Rarely has a benefit been observed in this system. But that's the principle of the game. A few lucky ones for many unlucky ones 😆

Dans les 2 langues, cher Comte, désolé pour cela 😦 L'utilisation de discord m'a certainement fait oublier cette habitude 😉

Discord a des effets indésirables sur vous cher @Philours.

Il ne faut surtout pas perdre l'habitude d'écrire dans notre belle langue.

Mieux vaut revenir au bercail. C'est à dire ici. 😊

Juste pour compléter mon point de vue car je ne veux pas m'éterniser, je ne sais pas pour vous, mais je déplore le fait qu'il n'y a plus de réelles promotions, qui donnaient de réel rabais aux clients. Exemple 20% sur toutes les filles rousses.

De plus depuis qu'il y a les jeux de hasard qui ont pris toute la place, on dirait que Totem donne l'idée que les TGIF peuvent être avantageux pour les clients et leur faire sauver des crédits sur les cartes, alors que cela ne me semble plus du tout le cas.

Just to complete my point of view because I don't want to go on forever, I don't know about you, but I deplore the fact that there are no more real promotions, which gave real discounts to customers. For example 20% on all redheaded girls.

Also since gambling has taken all the space, it seems that Totem gives the idea that TGIF can be advantageous for customers and make them save credits on the cards, while it does not seem to me at all the case.

Rassurez-vous cher @ComteDracula, je n'ai pas quitté ce forum 😊 Juste quelques petites visites de l'autre coté 😄
Les jeux -20% ou Cashback sont plus rares en effet. Mais la semaine prochaine il y a le Free Packs par exemple. Pour celui qui veut compléter sa collection c'est aussi avantageux (avec des cartes aléatoires cependant) Le rabais y est encore plus élevé.😉

Don't worry dear @ComteDracula, I haven't left this forum 😊 Just a few visits from the other side 😄
Games -20% or Cashback are rarer indeed. But next week there is the Free Packs for example. For those who want to complete their collection, it is also advantageous (with random cards, however) The discount is even higher.😉

I don't know about you, but I deplore the fact that there are no more real promotions

As do I.

it seems that Totem gives the idea that TGIF can be advantageous for customers and make them save credits on the cards,

Which is true in the sense that it can be advantageous for customers - but the reason why any business makes such offers is normally that it is advantageous to the business.

while it does not seem to me at all the case.

Some of the promotions are advantageous to me, some are not but are advantageous to others - in many cases they are most advantageous to customers with small collections. Presumably the customers that are targeted are those that are expected to provide the biggest benefit to Totem (and quite rightly so). At the other extreme there is absolutely no reason to give any extra discounts to those that are going to buy anyway. That you, and I, are not part of the group that benefits does not mean that nobody benefits.

SECs (like the NFT cards) are a different product

Sincerly I think they are exactly the same product, just sold in a different way.

If you got a good deal, good for you. If not, you have contributed to making Totem richer. In the latter case, there is nothing to be happy about.

I don't understand this view @ComteDracula since if Totem gets poorer there is surely a risk this iStripper App we all enjoy comes to an end. Tits up you could say.

As @muttonjeff wrote:

why do you have to maintain this negative rhetoric?

If others wish to play the games it is their choice, their money, their problem.
The cost of a SEC here is nothing compared to the cost of joining a model's OnlyFans page. 💰
I knew it woud be, but dear Gloria caught me in her clutches and my credit card is in the ER/A&E.
But what a fun journey it has been with her. 😊

Sincerly I think they are exactly the same product, just sold in a different way.

Then, equally sincerly, I think you are simply wrong in your belief. They differ in one very important respect. SECs a have a special property that is totally lacking from the normal cards.

That you don't value this property, rarity, does not mean that others will share your view. Some people value rarity and are willing to pay for it - I am not one of them but I do recognise that they exist and, from a business point of view, can be taken advantage of.

My word, what have I done! 😆 Net spend of 290 of my credits to get the SEC. 👍
Plus a couple of Gift cards also.

I've only sampled a few clips so far to check it's download okay, but she sure looks fun to me.
And some of us have been asking for more varied shows, props and normal type outfits.
This hits the mark perfectly, for me at least. So thanks very much iStripper team. 👍

My word, what have I done! 😆 Net spend of 290 of my credits to get the SEC. 👍
Plus a couple of Gift cards also.

I used a joker to get it because I didn't want to wait a week. Average cost of a Joker to me is around 350 credits.

I fell in love with her long before the end of the show.

She is gorgeous with a fantastic body but more importantly she has a really "bouncy" personality which shows through in the card. She seems to have a great sense of "fun".

It's the unknown cost and the oversized profit in relation to the value of the SEC card that bothers me, not the profit itself, which is normal for a business.

Stop counting in credit, and count how much in cash a card cost you.

Because with the exchange rates, the purchase of credits does not have the same value for everyone.

There is still something exaggerated to spend say 300 credits for a card that is worth at most 11.00 credits for a Triple Diamond Premium member or 13.75 without Premium.

It seems that inflation does not affect everyone's wallet in the same way.

But personally I find this profit *****.

It is in my opinion, much more of a project like the NFT, which if it doesn't work, may affect the regular program.

Because they have to subsidize themselves from these more profitable funds, to start this project.

I'm sorry, but for me, SEC and regular cards are the same thing.

Artificial scarcity is a technique to give the illusion that one card is more valuable than the others, when it is not. It is an old tactic of capitalism. To make people believe that if they don't have that rare thing, they'll miss out on something, which could make them happy.

I have SEC cards, and none have made me happier than regular cards.

I was fooled at first. But not anymore.


C'est bien plus le coût inconnu et le profit surdimensionné en lien à la valeur de la carte SEC qui me dérange,et non le profit proprement dit, qui est normal pour une entreprise.

Cessé de compter en crédit, et compter combien en argent une carte vous à coûté.

Car avec les taux de change, l'achat de crédits n'a pas la même valeur pour tous.

Il y a tout de même quelquechose d'éxagéré à dépenser disons 300 crédits pour une carte qui en vaut au plus 11.00 crédits pour un membre Triple diamants Premium ou 13.75 sans Premium.

Il semble que l'inflation n'affecte pas le portefeuille de tout le mon de la même manière.

Mais personnnellement je trouve ce profit abusif.

C'est selon moi, bien plus des projet comme les NFT, qui si ça ne fonctionne pas, risque d'affecter le programme régulier.

Car ils doivent se subventionner à même ces fonds plus rentable, pour démarrer ce projet.

Désolé, mais pour moi, les SEC et les cartes régulières c'est la même chose.

La rareté artificielle, est une technique pour donner l'illusion qu'une carte a plus de valeur que les autres, alors qu'il n'en est rien. C'est une vieille tactique du capitalisme. Pour inciter les gens à croire que s'il ne possède pas cette chose rare, ils vont passer à côter de quelquechose, qui pourrait les rendre heureux.

J'ai des cartes SEC, et aucune ne m'a rendu plus heureux que des cartes régulières.

Je me suis fait avoir au début. Mais plus maintenant.

Sincerly I think they are exactly the same product, just sold in a different way.

My thoughts ( they may or may not be 100% accurate )

NFT's will have a Limited number available.
Three levels of Value are planned.
The most Valuable NFT's may only have ONE available. ??
There will also be less valuable NFT versions available in higher quantity, but still limited to just that number.
All of the NFT's can be easily Obtained using crypto currency.
They Have a value, that potentially can increase many times the initial investment to obtain it.
They can be Resold or Traded.

SEC's are elusive to obtain, some have a direct definitive path to collect them, while others rely on luck and chance.
Play the games of chance often enough and you CAN obtain it and Hope that your other winnings offset the expenditure.
Their number is not limited, and after obtaining them, they have no value.
They can NOT be resold or traded.

I'm sorry, but for me, SEC and regular cards are the same thing.

Yes, for you (but not everyone) they are the same thing - but only after purchasing them. Before that they are very different things. Almost all that you have said on the subject confirms that they are, for you, very different before purchase.

Yes, for you (but not everyone) they are the same thing - but only after purchasing them. Before that they are very different things. Almost all that you have said on the subject confirms that they are, for you, very different before purchase.

In form and content it is the same. They are the same girls, with no more extras than the regular cards.

They are just more difficult to acquire, to create envy and contribute in many cases to an ***** profit for Totem. That's the difference.

Look no further.

And like all cards, they don't belong to us. Totem just gives us the right to play them.

I as a collector, when it comes to an object and I am willing to pay a higher price, I own this object, and can resell it.

This is not the case here.

As for the NFT, yes we own a card. Yes you can resell it, but it's too risky a market to invest in.


Dans la forme et son contenu c'est la même chose. Ce sont les mêmes filles, avec pas plus de supplément que les cartes régulières.

Elles sont juste plus difficile à acquérir, pour susciter l'envie et contribuer dans plusieurs cas à un profit abusif pour Totem. Elle est là la différence.

Ne cherchez pas plus loin.

De plus comme toutes les cartes, elles ne nous appartiennent pas. Totem nous cèdent juste le droit de les faire jouer.

Moi en tant que collectionneur, quant il s'agit d'objet et que je suis prêt à payer un prix plus élevé, je possède cet objet, et peut le revendre.

Ce qui n'est pas le cas ici.

Quant aux NFT, oui on possède une carte. Oui on peut la revendre, mais c'est un marché trop à risque pour y investir.

In form and content it is the same.

I agree - but that does not make them the same product.

An analogy - there are (or were, it is a long time ago that I heard of this) manufacturers of breakfast cereals that package the same cereal for one of the major brands and also as a supermarket's "own brand" of cereal with the only difference being the packaging. These are different products selling for different prices, sometimes in different markets but sometimes being next to each other on the supermarket's shelf.

I have heard of similar things being done where essentialy the same thing is sold by a single manufacturer or retailer but under two different brand names targeting different portions of the same population - the most recent example I can think of being the same items of clothing being sold either with an up-market logo or a mass market logo. Almost the same thing happens with some electrical and electronic goods where the main differences are cosmetic and, most importantly, the ostensible maker's "badge"

We may neither like nor approve of artificially differentiating products in this way - but it is a common practice and we should not be surprised or particularly offended when we encounter it.

to give a further example to what theEmu is talking about.
Major Appliances.
One Manufacture, Many Outlets or Vendors.

Where one outlet has a Low Price Guarantee
If you Find the Exact same Model for a Lower Price we will refund you the difference Plus 10%

Well, the exact same Model by design and function does exist, but it has a Different Retail Product Code.
So Every Vendor / Outlet that has that Exact same model, gets their Own Product Code.

So you can Never find the "Exact" same Model.

So you can Never find the "Exact" same Model.

haha , tu as essayé, toi 😆 haha, you tried it 😆

Another example - this time one that really should get you angry - is that of proprietary "brand named" ***** and generic version of exactly the same ***** - or worse between a generic ***** and a very slightly different newly patented variation that just happens to be introduced when the patent on the old ***** expires.

Où est cette version générique de totem, svp ?😄
Where is this generic version of totem, please?😄

Where is this generic version of totem, please?

The analogy was between generic ***** and iStripper's normal cards as opposed to non-generic ***** and SECs. It is my understanding that some companies make and sell both the generic ***** and their brand-named version.

I too in this case would like to have the generic version of the same card as the SEC, which would be sold to us at a price of a "Normal" card.

What you are talking about is related to a merchant who wants to sell a product under his name, but who will deal with a manufacturer of a similar product that is sold at a higher price with the brand of this manufacturer.

Basically the two products are almost similar except for the presentation (packaging) and the brand.

Except that in this case there is a way to make a choice for the cheaper product, which in essence is almost similar. People have the choice to pay for the brand or not.

Except that here there is no competition, nor any other choice to have the similar product at a lower price. of the same card with say a different presentation in the display.

iStripper is a monopoly and has no equivalent.


Moi aussi dans ce cas j'aimerais avoir la version générique de la même carte que la SEC, qui nous serait vendu à un prix d'un carte "Normale".

Ce dont vous parlez est en lien à un marchant qui veut vendre un produit à son nom, mais qui va faire affaire avec un fabricant, d'un produit similaire qui est vendu plus cher avec la marque de ce fabriquant.

Dans le fond les deux produits sont quasi similaire sauf la présentation (emballage) et la marque.

Sauf que dans ce cas il y a moyen de faire un choix pour le produit le moins cher, qui dans l'essence est pratiquement semblable. Les gens ont le choix de payer pour la marque ou non.

Sauf qu'ici il n'y a pas de compétition, ni de choix autre pour avoir le produit similaire à moins cher. d'une même carte avec disons une présentation différente dans l'affichage.

iStripper est un monopole et n'a pas d'équivalent.

@ComteDracula

Certainly the analogies are not perfect, they were intended to show that the practice is widespread.

iStripper is a monopoly and has no equivalent.

Bingo, you have identified a very important aspect - something you have known but have been ignoring important consequences thereof.

It means that there is less of a reason for them to indulge in the practices that you keep asking for. Such "philanthropy" by businesses directed towards customers it is usually associated with competition by being used to encourage users to stay with the company making the "gifts", Conversely "gifts" are also used to encourage customers of the competition to switch as well as attracting completely new customers.

Monopolies only really need to offer such "gifts" in order to retain customers - but very loyal customers are precisely those that are less likely to leave anyway so are less receptive to them.

We are essentially in agreement about what is happening, but not about the likelihood of it changing. In my opinion we are only likely to see it if it becomes favourable to Totem. Arguing that other companies provide "gifts" to loyal customers is irrelevant if those companies have direct competitors while Totem do not.

A very very relevant example here is myself. Until recently I had been buying every normal card that Totem had released and only shortly before ceasing to do that had also participated in the games to the extent that I had all the SECs. If, while exhibiting my "maximum loyalty" I had been offered a free SEC it would have reduced the income that Totem's received from me.

They would not have been giving me a SEC (which would have cost them very little) but would have been giving up the amount that I would have paid in order to get that SEC (which would have been a much larger amount). so it is not surprising that during this period I was offered no such "gifts". However, since I ceased to be a "loyal customer" I have received a few offers of this kind - again this is not surprising as such offers could have nudged me back into buying again.

I am surely not alone in this. Certainly there will have been other "loyal customers" for which the offer would have been effective, but the question is would they, in Totem's estimation, made up for the risk of losses from those like me,

Interesting read, and I agree on the monopoly thing - there's no reason for Totem to try and increase the goodwill/public outlook for the company if they're a monopoly (which they are).

I've long ago stopped caring for having even all the cards of models I like, but I'm looking forward to the NFT thing (maybe I'll be able to buy cards cheaper than my 13,75 credits if it fails? :D - you never know!)

There's so much content out there that it doesn't really matter if I get all of Sia's cards or not - she's all over the web (paid and free).

I think Totem is also wise trying to find new streams of revenue (like auctioning off polaroids from shoots) - customers are looking for that personal touch nowadays in the oversaturated market of online porn.

Totem is also wise trying to find new streams of revenue

Yes those unwashed panties seem to have sold well in that auction. 😆

Yes those unwashed panties seem to have sold well in that auction. 😆

Non seulement cela se vend bien mais il n'y a même pas de frais de nettoyage 😆
Not only does it sell well but there's not even a fee cleaning 😆

👍 😆 😎

I wash my hands of unwashed panties, as they say.

I already have enough of having to wash my wife's, without having to bother with other people's. 😆

But all the better if it suits others.


Moi les petites culottes non lavée, je m'en lave les mains comme on dit.

J'ai déjà assez de devoir laver celles de ma femme, sans devoir m'encombrer de celles des autres. 😆

Mais tant mieux si ça convient à d'autres.

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