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thefister
Mitglied seit in Jul 2008

22 Beiträge
29. November 2016
No more StripperXXX card from last week. Do you have problem to find model for such shows?
SpaveInvader
Mitglied seit in Oct 2010

919 Beiträge
29. November 2016
release day for iStripperXXX cards is Wednesday.
stefnev1
MODERATOR
Mitglied seit in Jul 2008

4571 Beiträge
29. November 2016
What @thefister says is right : there was no XXX card last wednesday (23th of november).
Rex
TEAM
Mitglied seit in Sep 2007

365 Beiträge
29. November 2016
Girls performing XXX shows cost more money to produce than regular shows.
Finding models who perform XXX for the same pay as regular shows became nearly impossible.
We had a very negative feedback on this forum when we raised XXX show prices in the past and dropped the idea back then.
The result today is the release of new XXX cards almost dropped to zero.

We gave it another try last week releasing Gloria's XXX card at 30 credits instead of 25.
Her card sold well despite the increased price and that's encouraging, but it's hard to tell because Gloria is so popular.
Next XXX card is scheduled first week of January now, it'll be priced 30 credits as well and we'll see then if there is a market for regular XXX cards on iStripper or if the production will remain sparse in the future.
mujahidm810
Mitglied seit in Feb 2008

60 Beiträge
29. November 2016
While it may not mean much,I would like to emphaticaly state I am a huge fan of the xxx content and will purchase any offerings that come out in the future even if they are of higher price than the regular content.
gman12345
Mitglied seit in Nov 2016

48 Beiträge
29. November 2016 (edited)
Thanks for the response Rex.

I would offer one suggestion, even though I'm confident it's been brought up...but don't do XXX shows with girls who are not popular, and for the near future avoid excessive repitition of those that you do release. IE, Merry Pie, Katya Clover and Alexa Tomas are great, but...there's a half dozen xxx shows of each already. Conversely, there's no XXX shows of Sapphira A, Valeria or Melisa, who have the highest rated shows in the "girl store", for girls who have not done XXX shows. My thought is, they refused, and that's fine..(I respect their choices), but I would go in that type of direction (popular girls without XXX shows already here)..instead of charging 30 credits for shows that will be very similar to what we already have.

Edit: I think that more flexibility in the rating system would let us do a better job with telling you what we want to see more of as well. Right now it's 4.5 or 5.0 for a good show, and no variation. Some shows, I'd like to give a 4.6 or 4.7 and not rate so many shows or girls the same as Viola or Gloria. It's a poor way to represent my satisfaction and does a disservice to the truly impressive performances as there's no way to distinguish them from the other shows that are "only really good". (if examples help: I rated Dakota's show and Gloria's the same, because I did not want to rate Dakota a 4.5...she's cute as a button, but (to me) she's not Gloria..if they were in the same room with me, I don't think I'd even know Dakota was there), but it's a good show with a very pretty girl...If there was a way to give her a 4.7, I would have and that'd represent how I feel about the two shows better to you.
Ironman79
Mitglied seit in Dec 2010

439 Beiträge
29. November 2016
As said before by me and other members the XXX shows overall are tame compared to what we know these girls are known for doing, not to mention the sound quality of late has not been very good the older XXX cards had better. I wouldn't mind more regular cards with a couple XXX clips added to them. As of now i very rarely watch any of my XXX shows.
EverthangForever
Mitglied seit in Oct 2009

2465 Beiträge
30. November 2016
@Rex,
Imho, the celebrity approach to models promoted here could be part of the xxx cost problem.
I do not want to see the demise of xxx bluescreen because there is no similar technology atm.
I've sent @Team a PM re a possible alternative cost saving idea for developer to consider :-)
Blackadder
Mitglied seit in Jan 2015

64 Beiträge
30. November 2016
I feel the negative feedback came from an increase in price without any prior notification more than the price itself.

If Totem has to pay models more for the xxx content I would have no issue paying the increase in price, it seems fair. You have some great xxx cards waiting to be released and you have customers that prefer these shows over normal cards, I wouldn't wait so long in releasing some of them if the production is finished.

I prefer the normal cards but you surely can't go wrong with a Nancy or Sybill xxx card and with Monika, Anie and Antonia also listed I will buy them all at the higher cost when they are released.

Cheers.
ttelloc
Mitglied seit in Mar 2008

19 Beiträge
30. November 2016
I have been with Totem for almost 10 years. So I started before 'Deskbabes' came out. I still remember the ***** Natalie Blonde bottle show that started it all. When Deskbabes (now iStripperXXX) came out i was really excited. I stopped paying attnetion to the VirtuaGirl (now iStrippee) shows completelly and went over to Desbabes totally. What has been happening to the XXX side lately has me losing interest completely. There has been fewer and fewer shows and the same girl (different cards) comes on week after week. It is very dissappointing (sp?) to wait a week for one show and then have that show the same as last week.

I don't mind paying a little extra for the XXX shows but I still am unlikely to buy the same girl more than once. So if possible I would like to see a new girl or girls (not just a new card(s)) every week. Otherwise I am going to put the software away and not buy any more credits.
lukaszr
Mitglied seit in Dec 2007

722 Beiträge
30. November 2016
Sorry for little off-topic, but I have a qestion:

@ttelloc
(...) I still remember the ***** Natalie Blonde bottle show that started it all. (...)

Can you remind me which show was the one with bottle?
Number6
Mitglied seit in Oct 2010

1157 Beiträge
30. November 2016
@lukaszr

:-)
lukaszr
Mitglied seit in Dec 2007

722 Beiträge
30. November 2016
Thank you very much :)
redforleather
Mitglied seit in Jan 2009

126 Beiträge
1. December 2016
Hi,

first a question, since I didn't see it addressed anywhere (or just missed it): My carousel this week does not show the xxx cards. I just read about the problems involved concerning producing new ones, but surely istripper should be interested in promoting the existing ones? Is this just a bug I have, or is everyone missing that category in the carousel this week?

And my 2 cents on xxx istripper: I think one reason why xxx cards might not get the same traction anymore as they used to, or that not so many people are interested enought in it to pay more for it might have to do with the fact that istripper as a whole became much more explicit when you compare it to older vg shows, to which deskbabes was then the alternative. A lot of the "classical" shows (talking the 720p shows, not before that, or after when deskbabes started) with Eufrat, Melisa, Morgane etc. had a lot of clips that were no nudity or only topless, and some shows only had 2-3 clips that were full nudity. Today this is pretty much the other way around, and a lot of the time, the only non-nudity clips are the previews. So you already get quite explicit shows, including some xxx content sometimes, with regular istripper now, different to when deskbabes started, without needing to pay more. So now that we have regular istripper shows with 2-3 xxx clips which, while not as extended as the xxx clips on the actual xxx shows might be enough for some customers.

Personally, while I enjoyed the early deskbabes shows a lot when they came out, I find a numer of the more recent xxx shows (apart from a few stellar performers like Viola, Lucy, Tracy, Red Fox, and of course Stella and Natalia who, due to their dirty talk and interaction with the audience, are much more fun in the xxx shows) much more repetitive than current regular shows, especially when you have just a lot of xxx clips with little variation except for position. For my tastes, I would truly welcome shows that have some genuine striptease/dancing scenes and some xxx clips at the end (ideally with sound, the other clips can be silent), but I don't know if that would be in high demand, or again, if people would pay more for it (if they knew why). Depending on the performer, I probably would.
Finally, regular shows are more easy to integrate in day-to-day laptop usage, I find, while xxx shows don't work as well when you are doing something else at the same time, also because of the sound-without the sound, though, they are not as much fun, so I find myself using more playlists with regular shows and saving xxx shows for... special occasions. So just my two cents on that, because I was also asking myself why I am gravitating back to regular shows much more these days (and I have been more or less absent for 2-3 years before getting back in the game this summer with the shift from vghd to istripper, so keep that in mind when I talk about shows in the "old days," there is a chunk in between where I didn't really pay attention to vghd/deskbabes very much)

Cheers, r
CVSiN
Mitglied seit in Dec 2007

26 Beiträge
2. December 2016
With all the porn stars and willing amatures out there that are just as hot as any of the top tier girls not sure why this is an issue for VG but not for other sites. Maybe it's time to look at less well known girls that are willing to do more for the same price as this is a top tier product.. That or hit up more of the mid range US girls instead of just the AAA women.
Dionysus937
Mitglied seit in Aug 2009

75 Beiträge
2. December 2016
I will second that the backlash about the initial price increase is that it surprised people. I don't know about other people, but I am always more than happy to spend more credits on "specialty" shows if they derive from the standard formula of iStripper. XXX shows, I know, cost more money due to the price of the model, and I get it that we should pay more as users to enjoy said content. It's only fair. I happily paid extra for Estonika's beautiful Harley cosplay and Nancy A's halloween treat (despite not being xxx) - I understood they required extra effort to produce, and I highly enjoy those shows because of said effort and willingly paid more.

I don't know how well iStripper is doing overall, but if it comes down to it, I'm still happy with just standard iStripper shows. I gobbled up all of Adriana Chechik's shows as I am a HUGE fan of her, and despite that she doesn't do the kinky anal stuff she's known for in porn here, I still highly enjoy just seing her naked on my desktop.

Long live iStripper!
KatzPaw
Mitglied seit in Apr 2015

396 Beiträge
2. December 2016 (edited)
As far as production cost if there is an xxx show produced the whole model contract price goes up I imagine. This would seem why we get a lot of the girls that do xxx shows with 3 normal and 3xxx shows to get the most out of the money invested into that shoot. Personally I like it when there are 4 normal shows and 2 xxx shows in the model shoot, but I don''t see sale numbers so I can't really say one is better then the other. It just feels like a more balanced lineup as the 4/2, or is it just me? :p

If increasing the xxx show price can balance out the cost of the model, I know people ***** price changes but the cards are worth it, and this product is very unique.

Also I have become very comfortable with the 1 xxx card a week release, it makes it unique for the week, and it seems to not pressure the team into just getting any models to do the shows for the sake of releasing cards, which could lead to sub par content which I would rather not see.

At this point in time the release schedule is awesome, 1 card a day, 1 xxx show a week with the tri release for the weekend, really couldn't ask for more.
EverthangForever
Mitglied seit in Oct 2009

2465 Beiträge
2. December 2016
I prefer a lady just using her hands, pussy & g-spot for edging to orgasm.
If doing away with triple x means...
less model incentive $$$ paid by Totem for doing dildo insertions,
less incentive $$$ being paid for anal,
less endless blow job emulations,
then I reckon fake penises were a tad boring anyhow, so no great loss.
KatzPaw
Mitglied seit in Apr 2015

396 Beiträge
2. December 2016
One more thing, just a thought.... since some people have brought up the point that the xxx shows have become repetitive which is true, try to shake them up a bit. Glass did something wonderful in the normal shows, adding something unique to xxx would be great. Also sometimes they can feel restrictive with the 3-4 scene breakdown, it would be nice to see maybe a 2 scene show some thing longer and specialized. This would really go a long way especially if you are producing 3 xxx shows of one model.
EverthangForever
Mitglied seit in Oct 2009

2465 Beiträge
2. December 2016 (edited)
@KatzPaw ..Hi ;-)
In triple x, novelty market to attract $$$ is quite different imho.
You wouldn't wanna dilute performance with anything which is not xxx.
If Totem are paying a premium for insertion model then..logically..
striptease to panties (pole clip)
insert panties ('panty stuffing' ~ as its called in webchat (as a taskbar clip)
continue dance (standing or pole clip)
removal of panties and wring em out until dry (taskbar clip)
and so on... I know in rooms that sort of thing worked the $$$ well ;-)>
KatzPaw
Mitglied seit in Apr 2015

396 Beiträge
2. December 2016
Yeah... just a change in pace for the xxx shows, something to distinguish them apart. I would think that most users would be more inclined to dedicate time to watch a few long scenes rather then A few shorter scenes, give more time to set the mood :p There are a lot of different users though so I don't know, but I stand by if they are shooting 3 cards of one model, it would be nice to have some effort to bring some diversity between those 3 cards. It might inspire some people to jump off the fence from just buying 1 of the cards vs all of them.
91hebasu
Mitglied seit in Jan 2008

1146 Beiträge
2. December 2016
FYI........
Just to make sure everyone is on the right page

Heavy rubbing to apparent orgasm and insertion of Anything, fingers included, is considered XXX

Not just the use of toys
Jefe2643
Mitglied seit in Jun 2011

16 Beiträge
2. December 2016
A price increase in istripper xxx in exchange for great content I do not see a problem. With content for me what I like most about istripper xxx is to see and hear the girls when they masturbate and reach the orgasm. There would also be no problem if it is only a bummer or two or if a card comes out every single time (one every month, every two months, etc.) but it is good content.
EverthangForever
Mitglied seit in Oct 2009

2465 Beiträge
3. December 2016 (edited)
I took some time to check through Alexa Tomas' latest triple x ~Little Miss Fit
where half the clips are designated xxx and happy to see on average they are of longer duration.
If Totem are paying a higher rate per xxx clip
then it follows that cards devoted to all xxx clips would be unsustainable at current prices.
I agree with @jefe2643 & @KatzPaw.
..users would be more inclined to dedicate time to watch a few long scenes rather then A few shorter scenes, give more time to set the mood
imho there is nothing more distracting than a model interupting her good edging to orgasm ~ by some prescribed need from the studio for her to vary poses all the time in a clip, or to have her 'rising to a climax' session cut short to suit other clips.
bommel97
Mitglied seit in May 2008

71 Beiträge
3. December 2016
You could make a Crowdfunding, Yes! Totem briefly introduces the ladies and pretending to a financing plan to produce the show, and of course a gain to achieve!
Each Member that would like to have the card pays a set amount of money!
The map can be produced, gets every Member which has paid the card immediately, then the card is still in the regular sale! Funding would not reach the Member get back the money in the form of credits! So, you could again produce duo cards for IStripper and IStripperXXX!

I hope that Bing translator has translated it understandable!
spacedragon64
Mitglied seit in Apr 2008

119 Beiträge
3. December 2016
The negative feedback was that many buy the card before noticing the price increase, and Totem didn't talk about it before releasing it.
XXX cards cost more.
If the card have great value, we will buy it.
But you need to choose a girl that perform well, and probably a girl without too much card already.
If you release one or two XXX show a month, we will buy them.
BUT try to promote the more.
I nearly miss the Gloria show.
It was so much easier on the old virtuagil deskbabes website...
KatzPaw
Mitglied seit in Apr 2015

396 Beiträge
3. December 2016
I took some time to really watch the last Alexa card Blistering Hot. I really like how the clips are almost all over 3 min pushing over 4 on some, this is a great direction the xxx cards have had. The longer the production can make the clips the better, you don't lose the atmosphere of the models performance.

There are three scenes roughly 11 min average per show. As much as I like seeing Alexa undress three times, it feels like we get redundant especially if you are watching the full card. There are things Totem has done in other cards like have a standing scene, non toy scene and a toy scene, which is a nice balance. The standing clips give the card a chance to showcase the outfit that are so hastily discarded in the shorter scenes.

Looking at the running times of the cards roughly 35 - 40+ minutes. It would be nice if Totem could play with the format a little, like I said earlier especially if the model is shooting 3 xxx cards. Have a show with two scenes, one with toy and one without, that are longer, pushing the 15 - 18 min mark. People love garment play and teasing, this affords a little more time to that and more time for working up to the climax point, for more of a robust scene.

I like the xxx shows, but I can understand people getting bored of them especially if it is the same model two weeks in a row. And then the exact same format.

All in all don't mind me, just trying to be constructive in potential xxx card show development, I don't want to see the xxx line die.
Lafoote
Mitglied seit in Dec 2008

6 Beiträge
6. December 2016
Once you get the XXX cards rolling again, we could use a filter to find them. The current interface doesn't seem to have one. Even doing a search for xxx just brings up Miss Roxxx.
EverthangForever
Mitglied seit in Oct 2009

2465 Beiträge
6. December 2016 (edited)
'Totem's policy'.. insertion of Anything, fingers included, is considered XXX
If you do away with triple x and therefore ALL insertion, you are denying the right of models to demonstrate their sexuality involves a G-spot. This is fundementally dumbing down sex to a male fantasy viewpoint that female bodies respond in a similar way to their own (all external). I was hoping iStripper's clips would focus on informing men generally on a range of ways a woman can go about achieving climax without all the ***** about some occasional insert finger play. Any emulated climaxing in regular cards is gonna look fairly lame in future without it imho.
pitcher52
Mitglied seit in Sep 2011

1 Beiträge
7. December 2016
Could you all possibly add sound to normal Istripper then? I do not know about anybody else but I truely enjoyed hearing the voice of the Model/Actress.

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