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stefnev1
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Stanston
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26. August 2020, 135 antworten
@PAGORN
Can I suggest you to Google Freedom of Speech ?
No, that's not necessary :)
We are having a civilized and respectful discussion about a controversial policy from a company we otherwise hold in high esteem. Under the circumstances, there is no need to ban anyone. Besides,
forcibly silencing people's anger is rarely a good solution.
Rather, their anger risks to turn into rage and expressing itself differently. Notably through the loss of customers.
Like i was saying, when Emotions come to play things will become uncontrollable, so yes it was totally my fold.
But it was not my Goal to offend or piss off the other Members like i mentioned.
So if someone is feeling offended or anything else i Apologize for that.

And further to stay on my Opinion which should be Ok,
However, those with a full or almost full collection (let's say triple-diamond customer) have nothing to gain from it.
So it would be wise to allow them to acquire all the cards without having to submit to games that only increase their frustration and anger.
I'm thankful for my Discounts which i'm getting through my Status, it is totally Ok for me.
I'm more than Thankful, that i was be able myself to get the iStripper Software
running inside of Linux, to use the Product.
I'm totally not frustrated with the iStripper Product, and for that Reason was my previous Post
not that necessary.

I Love the iStripper Product just like it is, and at least from my own Perception,
and when i'm watching the Shows i have the Feeling that Totem is on a good course.
But with that said, i'm stepping back from this Discussion, and Apologize again for my action.
So please feel free to Discuss whatever you want, i'm further enjoying my Shows.
Stanston
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26. August 2020, 135 antworten
@Grabandt
Everyone has a different opinion about it, it would be bad if everyone had the same opinion.
In this case i will not hold back my Opinion to the whole SEC,
Gambling or whatever Situation, here on iStripper.
Please keep in Mind, it's only my own/one Opinion, it shall not insulting or piss off anyone.
When you feel insulted or pissed off, then it's not my Fold, that was definitively not my Goal.

This will be my last attempt to be a voice of reason, if it not helps,
you can still smash your Heads after that. I'm laying back in the meanwhile and shaking my Head about it.

But only for a short Moment, because there are waiting roundabout 1900 Girls for my Attention.

We all know that a critical Mass of upset and dissatisfied people will for sure destroy things.
Driven by your Emotions, will Result in an uncontrolled Situation, that is the Truth.
Because an upset and dissatisfied Situation is a result from the wrong Expactations.
And from Expectation follows the Disappointment, alwasy my Friends always, that is also the Truth
That is the Reason why i don't have any Expectations in anyone else, except for myself.

I also know that there are more many Users which are satisfied with iStripper, and i'm one of them.
But they are holding back, which is sad but everyone to it's own.
But it would be sad when the Mass of satisfied Users is bigger as the Mass of the
dissatisfied Users. And that the dissatisfied Users Mass, are be able to Shut Down iStripper.
That would be sad, only because a few Users are not getting all and everything at anytime.

Also i will not Say, that Totem is making everything right, and i think there is always
room for improvement. But again we have no Idea what's going on behind the Curtain.

And i really could imagine that Totem isn't generating enough Money only from the Card Prices (regular Shows),
to bring us every Day a new Show, yes it could be the case. No i'm sure that is the case.
Otherwise they didn't decide to do so with the SEC Card's the Gambling and the Outfit Auction.

Then at the end everyone will get paid for his Work. It is a given and taken.
Totem takes our Money, but they are giving us wonderful Girls for that.
That is the Reason why we are here. That is the Reason why I am here.

And we know for sure, the the Team is reading this Topic. And if we are patient
they will react. But at the end this Reaction will not satisfy everyone, but it is what it is.
You can't satisfy everyone it is what it is, accept this Situation, otherwise you will never come to rest.

And now comes the harsh part, and yes driven by my Emotions for sure,
again please keep my introductory statement in Mind.

Maybe it's a good Idea that Totem is Banning all those upset and dissatisfied User for a while from the Forum.
But still with Access to the rest of the iStripper Universe.
To give them Time to come to Rest for themself, and to give Totem the Time to reorganize their Stuff and Things.
To not mess around any more, with such stupid and annoying Situations.

And if these Users are still not be able to Understand the two medals principle,
then these Mass of Users should look for another thing, which one attracts your attention.
Then obviously iStripper doesn't it for you any more.

Thanks for Reading
dar2112v
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26. August 2020, 135 antworten
this post is a little to long for me to read it but the 1st paragraph had a few statements that needed comment.



But it will be of no use if we keep talking about the same problem, SEC cards.
Because Totem will hardly take us into consideration, in addition, Totem has recognized how one can earn additional money or compensate for losses.

Not sure what consideration you are looking for but yes totem realizes the gambling makes them money

Just like you, I have a large collection and I always bought every card, then the SEC cards were introduced. Of course, all cards from iStripper are a "must" for collectors.

We have different definitions of 'collector' - I collect the cards I want. Some I can take or leave; and the ones I don't want - I don't want in my collection at any price not even if they were free.

The problem, we thought the cards were really something special, because it was said, "The cards are only available now at this point in time" and then no more.

Never being available doesn't make them special? I have zero exclusive (aka SEC) cards but plenty of cards that cannot be purchased any longer but there is nothing special about them?

After a lot of criticism, Totem changed the strategy a bit.

Totem did not make any change because of any kind of criticism. Totem second exclusive card was a gambling game. Once they saw how much money they made they realized their mistake in saying the first exclusive card would "never be available again" so they made more gambling games and offered the previously never available card again as a prize.

Now we are ***** with the SEC cards, because the distances where they appear are getting shorter and shorter.
In addition, the joker cards, of course everyone would like to have them, because if you miss an SEC card, you still have the joker and can use it.

We are ***** with exclusive cards because they are highly profitable; many members are willing to waste both their time and credits to get a card simply because they cant get it any other way. As long as it's profitable it will remain.

And while I guess everyone would like a joker; I personally wouldn't do anything stupid to get one. Never had one and doubt I ever will
ComteDracula
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25. August 2020, 135 antworten
La morale de cette histoire.

Les Sec, qui étaient là comme un plus au début pour fidéliser les gens, et les encourager à acheter toutes les cartes d'un mois, et dont plusieurs personnes, comme moi ont accepté d'y participer, se sont faient jouer un vilain tour par les gens qui ne voulaient pas suivre les premières règles du jeu.

Ainsi après plusieurs manifestations de mécontentement, Totem a créer une façon par les jeux de les obtenir, alors que ces cartes ne devaient jamais plus être disponibles pour ceux qui n'avaient pas accepter de participer à ces offres.

Coup de génie pour Totem. Ceux-ci réalisent qu'en agissant ainsi, cela leur rapporte +++ d'argent .De plus rien ne garanti que les personnes vont obtenir ces cartes SEC, même en jouant.

Ils poursuivent l'insatisfaction, en donnant l'illusion qu'il vont avoir ces cartes. Ils vont même jusqu'à créer la joker card, pour encore plus faire croire à la facilité d'obtenir ces cartes en échanges des SEC.

Oui les gens finissent par les obtenir mais à quel prix finalement (plusieurs n'ont pas fait le décompte e leur perte), et en plus ils se retrouvent avec des cartes qu'ils ne voulaient pas, tout comme lorsqu'il fallait que les gens achètent toutes les cartes d'un mois.

Ce faisant il se metttent à dos les premiers acheteurs fidèlent qui accepter de jouer les premières règles du jeu, car la solution des jeux de hasard ne conviennent pas à tous.

Peu importe les frustrations engendrées, Totem voit qu'il y a beaucoup d'argent à faire. Alors pourquoi cessé.

"Cerise sur le sunday", il ne font rien pour diminuer les frustrations. Ne viennent pas sur les forums avec les membres pour voir comment ils pourraient diminuer cette frustration. Au contraire la seule intervention pour essayer d'atténuer la grogne a été de dire que d'autres façons seraint trouver pour satisfaire les fidèles clients.

C'est à partir de ce moment que les jokers cards sont apparus, et que les SEC se gagnants seulement pas les jeux ont augmenté en fréquences.

Pour ma part cette histoire c'est n'importe quoi. C'est pourquoi j'ai perdu confiance en Totem.

Comme on dit ici, "ils ont déshabillé Jacques pour habiller Jean", avec de vieux vêtements, qu'ils ont fait passé pour du neuf.

Et maintenat que Jacques est tout nu, il doit se dire que ce n'est pas grâve au moins les filles sont belles.

Et Jean réalise après coup qu'il a fait rire de lui. Comme il a honte, il continue à jouer et se faire croire que tout va bien "madame la Marquise".

Il ne veut surtout pas que Jacques lui reprenne les vêtements et redevienne à nouveau tout nu.

Donc il essai de donner raison à Totem, qui lui a fourni ceux-ci.

C'est pourquoi je dit que Totem a créé une boite de Pandore avec les SEC.

(Désolé je voulais écrire : "Il ne veut surtout pas que Jacques lui reprenne les vêtements et redevienne à nouveau tout nu." plutôt que Jean, mais impossible de le corriger dans mon message en anglais. J'ai dû couper mon message en deux.)

(Sorry I wanted to write: "He does not especially want Jacques to take his clothes back and become naked again." Rather than Jean, but impossible to correct in my message in english. I had to cut my message in two.)
ComteDracula
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25. August 2020, 135 antworten
The moral of this story.

The Sec, who were there as a bonus at the beginning to retain people, and encourage them to buy all the cards for a month, and many people, like me have agreed to participate, have had a nasty trick to play. by people who didn't want to follow the first rules of the game.

So after several expressions of discontent, Totem created a way through games to obtain them, while these cards were never to be available again to those who did not agree to participate in these offers.

A stroke of genius for Totem. They realize that by doing so, it earns them +++ money, and there is no guarantee that people will get these SEC cards, even while playing.

They pursue dissatisfaction, giving the illusion that they are going to have these cards. They even go so far as to create the joker card, to further make believe in the ease of obtaining these cards in SEC trading.

Yes people end up getting them, but at what cost in the end (many did not count their loss), and in addition they end up with cards that they did not want, just like when they had to be people buy all the cards a month.

In doing so, they turn against the first loyal buyers who agree to play the first rules of the game, because the solution of games of chance is not suitable for all.

Regardless of the frustrations generated, Totem sees that there is a lot of money to be made. So why stopped.

"Cherry on the sunday", they do nothing to reduce frustrations. Do not come to the forums with the members to see how they could lessen this frustration. On the contrary, the only intervention to try to reduce the discontent was to say that other ways could be found to satisfy loyal customers.

It is from this moment that the jokers cards appeared, and that the SECs winning only by the games increased in frequency.

For me this story is nonsense. That's why I lost confidence in Totem.

As we say here, "they undressed Jacques to dress Jean", with old clothes, which they passed off as new.

And now that Jacques is quite naked, he must tell himself that it is not bad at least the girls are beautiful.

And Jean realizes afterwards that he made him laugh. As he is ashamed, he continues to play and make himself believe that all is well "Madame la Marquise".

Above all, he does not want Jean to take back his clothes and become completely naked again.

So he tries to agree with Totem, who provided him with these.

This is why I said that Totem created a Pandora's box with the SEC.
TheEmu
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What was the second route of getting the 1st SECs if it wasn't gambling?

The second route was gambling. It was a way of gettiing the SECs. Without this second route there was absolutely NO way of getting a SEC if you had missed (or deliberately ignored) the original event. It was a solution that did provide the requested second way of getting the cards - that some people did not like that way of getting them does not mean that it was not a solution - albeit not a universaly acceptable one but no one ever claimed that it was.

You can put it in a simple way: if there is another way, there will probably be less people taking part in the scratch game. If people choose not to gamble, that might just be because it's not worth the time, credits and all unwanted cards.

Exactly correct, and that is pretty well the point I have been trying to make all along. Changing things is likely to cost Totem money unless they are careful, Changing things in the simple ways that have been suggested would almost certainly cost them money - would you willingly reduce your profits ?

We can only speculate on the intentions, but the odds show that this game is designed to make most members pour in a lot of credits, not for most members to win an SEC.

Yes we can speculate on the intentions, but whatever the intensions were the gambling games did provide a second way to get the SECs, no matter how unpopular that way turned out to be it was still a way to get the cards.
arise77
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25. August 2020, 135 antworten
@TheEmu

... and then they ***** when the second route was offered over and above the special event. The cards only available by gambling came later (and of course there were more complaints).

What was the second route of getting the 1st SECs if it wasn't gambling?

Yes, of course I do (except for the "simply") but that does not mean that by doing so they did not provide a solution to the "problem" that initiated the first wave of complaints.

I think you put the quotation marks " " on the wrong word, haha... Joke aside, the "solution" provided is not much of a solution if it doesn't allow people to actually get the card. Gambling doesn't guarantee you get the card you're playing for.
We can only speculate on the intentions, but the odds show that this game is designed to make most members pour in a lot of credits, not for most members to win an SEC.

I absolutely agree - but I do not think that finding something that will satisfy those that do not want to gamble and at the same time will not negatively impact the overall income is as simple a matter as some here seem to think. Introducing a new mechanism will affect the income from the old mechanism (if only by reducing the need to resort to it to get a SEC) so Totem will need to be careful that they keep things properly balanced if they are not to lose out by introducing something new.

You can put it in a simple way: if there is another way, there will probably be less people taking part in the scratch game. If people choose not to gamble, that might just be because it's not worth the time, credits and all unwanted cards.