There was a discussion a while ago about providing a route for people with a full collection to get the Ex cards but I haven't heard anything since.

I last bought "something" on 5 June during the last Ex event. It's coming up to 6 weeks since I bought a regular show. All for the reason that I need to hold back on purchases so I can earn points during the next Ex event.

I've got "lots" of credits on my account and no reason to use them.

When the next Ex event comes I don't think I can justify buying more credits that I cannot spend on anything in order to get the Ex card(s).

It would be nice if Totem could give us an update on how people with full collections can get the next Ex cards. Ideally I would rather they didn't exist at all.

I imagine the idea of offering a past ex card would not be proper. People who did the "steps" to get the ex card would feel cheated for a change in the rules.

My thought is to come up with a plan to get ex cards in more than one way. If people want to play games to "win" the card they can. If people want to "purchase" the cards, they can.

For me, it would be "fair" to set up the rules/guidelines/methods for the future, not change the rules of the past.

I never said anything about getting "past" Ex cards. I have them all.

Or changing past rules. Or avoiding the steps

I'm asking for a way to get future cards when you can't get points from purchasing more shows.... because you already have them all.

...and you can't top credits up to earn more points ... because you have so many credits you don't need any more for a couple of years !

It would be nice if someone from Totem could reply.

yes, we are thinking about solutions

Hi

I wondered if there had been any decision on a strategy to make the Ex cards more achievable for people who can't buy more cards to win them and don't need more credits. Just looking for some kind of confirmation. Haven't bought a single thing from the store since the last Ex event - it's getting kinda boring waiting.

yes, we are thinking about solutions

Perhaps the easiest fix is to scrap EX cards 😆

it was a half-baked idea to begin with. 😐 fingers crossed they just roll them over into SEC cards 👍

I would also like them to be canned. So far they've resulted in me stopping buying cards altogether so that I can earn more points on the next event.

The boredom of having no new shows to watch - has now led to me to subscribe to other sites to get my fix of "new".

@Calgon

C'est une technique assez compréhensible pour un détenteur de grande collection. Le point négatif pour totem s'il ne trouve pas d'autres solutions pour ceux qui possèdent la quasi totalité de l'offre.
J'ai comme le pressentiment que l'on sera bientôt informé de tout changement éventuel dans le mode de fonctionnement des EX 😊

This is a fairly understandable technique for a large collection holder. The negative point for totem if it does not find other solutions for those who own almost the entire offer.
I have a feeling that we will soon be informed of any possible change in the mode of operation of the EX😊

EX Cards need to be purchasable like SEC cards. Vaulting them just doesn't make sense from a business standpoint. I understand people who spent a lot just to get it, but maybe come up with a solution for people who didn't get a chance to earn them. For example, instead of a Joker card, give people a chance to earn an EX key in the games or something like that to unlock and buy past EX cards.

HiI wondered if there had been any decision on a strategy to make the Ex cards more achievable for people who can't buy more cards to win them and don't need more credits. Just looking for some kind of confirmation. Haven't bought a single thing from the store since the last Ex event - it's getting kinda boring waiting.

@Calgon

From today's promo, the answer to that appears to be absolutely nothing.

If you own Dolz cards there are quite a few bonuses applied for stuff you already own but absolutely nothing for those who already own all the regular shows (and all the VRs too).

Another event I shall not be participating in (and another EX card I won't have).😰

@calgon today they pulled almost all the babydolz rewards! Basically all I can get is a one month mobile membership which I have no interest in! I have no idea what is going on with rewards. The NFT cards are expensive. There really should be rewards.

@calgon today they pulled almost all the babydolz rewards! Basically all I can get is a one month mobile membership which I have no interest in! I have no idea what is going on with rewards. The NFT cards are expensive. There really should be rewards.

They took down the Giftcards and Jokers and in future they will return with a supply tied to them, so that all small BBD earners get even less, because the big ones will buy all rewards.

https://discord.com/channels/709339443777110026/1071062158135279677/1284095938176221256

i wonder if totem sits in that echo chamber of constant praise (Discord), ignorant of the problems and concerns we (the forum users) have presented to them time and time again. 👎

We don't ignore you.
We haven't found a fair solution yet.

We don't ignore you.We haven't found a fair solution yet.

A fair solution would be to take all current EX cards and roll them over into the SEC side of iStripper and in doing so, would make them fair and reasonably obtainable.

Solution found 😉 think of it like an early access, whales want it now, and there are those of us that are willing to wait.

For example, models that suppossedly had a card reserved for NFT's seem to be showing up years after their inital releases, (Loren Sun initial release 2022 and recent 2024). how about doing that, release it now for whales and a couple months later release it as an SEC. 👍

@cfrec2

I think the problem with "fairness" is to do with what people, who have the EX cards now, had to do to obtain them.

Ex-cards were promoted as cards that you can't purchase (even with Jokers), so many users spent much more credits in the games, to get the Ex-cards, than they would have spent if they had known that they will be purchaseable in the future. I can sense some disgruntlement among many if that was to be changed... 😄

(EDIT: just noticed that willyweekly already mentioned this in an earlier post.)

On the other hand, personally I wouldn't mind. I have all EX cards except Atlantis Deep's card released today. And I won't get this latest one either, because I don't need to buy lots of credits for a good while and having very few cards available in the store, it makes little sense to play the games this time. Letting others get them somehow e.g. with Jokers is nothing away from me :)

I found this place in February 2018. A couple of months too late for the very first SEC of Niemira. I was one doing some ***** that "it is not fair" that we, who weren't even here in time, can't now get that SEC. Some time later Joker cards were introduced. This situation with EX-cards is practically the same as was with SECs before Joker cards, so I don't see why it wouldn't have similar results later on 😀

I will continue to hold onto the hope that one day, totem will just do the same thing as with the initial SEC's and release them through a game similar to 25, maybe not now but later on 😊

@cfrec2 actually I sort of like that. Why not just make all cards available eventually ... seems like a reasonable solution. The amount of delay is a matter of debate but keeping them permanently unavailable unless you have a joker seems like a bad approach. It would make up a bit for the cards we lost because various models were withdrawn (around 17 cards). And TOTEM would make more money by making them available evntually (even if it's a year later).

I think the original intent of this thread was not to do away with the EX cards or even make them available via other routes.

It was about the difficulty of users with full collections being able to get enough points to be able to obtain the EX card without resorting to buying credits that aren't really needed.

A rough calculation for this event tells me that I can only obtain 1666 points in the quests because I cannot buy any shows.

I have over 3000 credits so buying more credits is pointless/unnecessary.

If I had the points for purchasing the shows and the VR's (I have all of them too) then I could add another 330 to that, taking me close enought to be able to get the EX card.

Also in the games themselves user's with full collections cannot win any cards.

To be honest, in the future, I shall just stick to buying regular shows unless there is a compelling reason for me to actually obtain a SEC or an EX card.

Its a shame really. If I played for the EX card I would probably have spent a large number of credits (perhaps even prompting me to buy some more) but as it is I have enough credits to last me around 9 months so it isn't really my loss.

I was able to get the EX cards by sitting on my hands and buying nothing from the store for 3 months and then playing every game and then topping my credits back up.

I was pleased to see some bonus for holding NFTs but I really really dislike this "feature". I don't think I've ever come across anything like this before, where you are effectively encouraged to NOT buy anything for 3 months at a time.

I was considering getting a Joker from the babydolz store to spend in the event and the rug was pulled on that coincidentally today as well.

Now I go back to sleep for another 3 months.

The EXs (and the SECs, except for four I own) are DEAD to me.
I (completely) stopped playing games months ago.
The last time I did anything in the games was about this mid February (raffle tickets).
I sometimes take a look at the games available once or twice a week, but actually buy nothing.

I am still waiting for a game where I am NOT able to gain 'free' cards, but instead only credits, maybe a joker.
I ***** the whole idea of getting cards I do not want.

I may get the Advent Calendar this year; not sure about that, as I have been buying relatively fewer cards each month now, and totally skipping the cards of a bunch of new (and attractive) models. (this may change again)

Yep. Buying 14 cards gives 20/2000 on the progress bar, this must be joke, a really bad one...

Progress bar?
I do not even see a progress bar in the current set of events.

Yep. Buying 14 cards gives 20/2000 on the progress bar, this must be joke, a really bad one...

No joke.
I can only get this EX card if I spend £x buying credits that I do not need.

I do not even see a progress bar

It is more of a Token Counter than A Progress Bar.
For each of the Quests you Complete, you Earn a Back to School Graduation Hat token.
These are accumulative, and are Not Spent when you reach 1000 to claim the SEC card, and then you can continue to Accumulate them to reach 2000 and Claim the EX card.

See the Upper Right Corner. It shows how Many Graduation Hat tokens you have so far Accumulated.
https://www.istripper.com/customdata/forum/2024-09-14/VpS8gfA8.jpg

After you earn your Tokens you have to click the refresh link...
Then you will be able to claim your SEC and then Claim your EX.
you have to Claim them in Order, the SEC card 1st then the EX card.

I was able to earn 1111 tokens from completing some of the quests.
Refresh your Ballance then Claim your card.
https://www.istripper.com/customdata/forum/2024-09-14/ewZDQNSJ.png
your Tokens are NOT spent...
https://www.istripper.com/customdata/forum/2024-09-14/kKO6mOhi.png

Here are the Quests and Awards for completing them:
By Shows and Earn Quest Tokens
https://www.istripper.com/customdata/forum/2024-09-14/qjN74LKD.png
As you can see, Buying Shows is not the Best way to earn Tokens.
Play the Slot Machine
https://www.istripper.com/customdata/forum/2024-09-14/awUTwiUX.png
The Thrill Spin Event
https://www.istripper.com/customdata/forum/2024-09-14/dcMYumqZ.png
The Golden Ticket Event
https://www.istripper.com/customdata/forum/2024-09-14/lwAYlMAg.png
Two Pages of DOLZ NFT Quests
https://www.istripper.com/customdata/forum/2024-09-14/DpLIweH9.png
https://www.istripper.com/customdata/forum/2024-09-14/b5uYt6vJ.png
The Bonus Quests
https://www.istripper.com/customdata/forum/2024-09-14/Z98xjBPR.png

when there is a red dot on one of the Quests, it means you have UnClaimed Tokens in that Quest.

And if the Games / Events are Not your thing. You can just Bulk re-Load your Credits and Earn tokens at the same time.
https://www.istripper.com/customdata/forum/2024-09-14/kAY8YZ4H.png

Playing the events...
The Slots - I think this Set of Quests gives the best Token Returns for the Credits Played
https://www.istripper.com/customdata/forum/2024-09-14/bEp2B3eT.png
A Winner
https://www.istripper.com/customdata/forum/2024-09-14/4fCV1kko.png
The Fan Fair - Woo Hoo!
https://www.istripper.com/customdata/forum/2024-09-14/vIEycplM.png

Thrill Spins
https://www.istripper.com/customdata/forum/2024-09-14/0brblfj3.png
another Winner
https://www.istripper.com/customdata/forum/2024-09-14/pixrRvnd.png
the Fan Fair Fire Works...
https://www.istripper.com/customdata/forum/2024-09-14/MoGGmYZ3.png

Golden Tickets
https://www.istripper.com/customdata/forum/2024-09-14/Y8lb8SfA.png
Will it be a Winner?
https://www.istripper.com/customdata/forum/2024-09-14/W4YTXHu4.png
Partial Scratch off to peak. Yes it's a Winner
https://www.istripper.com/customdata/forum/2024-09-14/xxJw0mqS.png
Ahh, no big Fan Fair, Instead Just Awesome !
https://www.istripper.com/customdata/forum/2024-09-14/2wHsXTGc.png

I played 55times at the Slots at 10 Credits per play
I played 10 times on the Thrill Spin
I played 10 times the Golden Tickets.
I collected all of the DOLZ Quest awards.
I have no Cards to Buy, so I can't earn Tokens from buying cars.

I used 1550 credits and I won Back 670 so a Net Spend of 880 credits.
but I had also many DOLZ Quests....

You can just Bulk re-Load your Credits and Earn tokens at the same time.

I think many are on a budget and can't really do that, and others don't want to do that and have thousands of credits sitting unused for possibly months ahead.

What is now, my Best Path to obtain the EX card?
I need about 900 more Tokens to reach the 2000 tokens needed for the EX card.

On the Slot Machine, if I Play another 45 times at 10 credits a play to reach the Next Slot Quest of 1000 credits played, I will spend an extra 450 credits to get awarded 500 tokens.
https://www.istripper.com/customdata/forum/2024-09-14/awUTwiUX.png

This would bring my Total Spend to 2000 credits.
And possibly a win Back of 1000 total, giving me a Net Spend of 1000 credits
If I re-Load 1000 credits Back, I will get a bonus of 500 tokens.
https://www.istripper.com/customdata/forum/2024-09-14/kAY8YZ4H.png

So that is the most cost effective way to Obtain the EX card.

Buy the 1000 credit Pack.
Get 500 bonus tokens
then play 45 more spins on the Slots to reach a total of 100 plays
and earn the 500 tokens from the Slot play.

Overall I will have used a total of 2000 credits
won back 1000 credits
Re-loaded 1000 credits
so I'm back at the Number of Credits I started with...
It Cost me 89.99 for the Re-load,
or another way to look at it.
to Get the SEC card AND the EX card, it costs me 89.99

What if I didn't have all of the DOLZ quest.
that totaled 525 Tokens.
https://www.istripper.com/customdata/forum/2024-09-14/DpLIweH9.png
https://www.istripper.com/customdata/forum/2024-09-14/b5uYt6vJ.png

So I would have had to Spend another 750 credits on the Golden Ticket, or Thrill Spins
Probably the Thrill Spins, because there is also a Quest for how many Losses you have.
to be awarded 360 tokens for the last 3 remaining thrill spin quests.
https://www.istripper.com/customdata/forum/2024-09-14/dcMYumqZ.png
and I would likely have won back another 500 credits.

Then instead of just the 1000 credit re-load,
I would Get another 500 credit re-load
and Get the bonus of 200 tokens for a total of 700 tokens from the reloads.

Combine the Thrill Spin Tokens of 360 and the Re-load bonus tokens of 200 = 560 tokens
That would account for Not Having the DOLZ quests.


So then my cost to get both the SEC and the EX card would be:
The Costs of the two Re-loads.
$89.99 plus $49.99 = $139.98

So what does all of this Mean?

Like myself, there are other members who have a full collection, or almost full collection
and have no Cards to buy to complete the card buying Quests.

So we Need a path to get the SEC and EX cards.

seems an EX card is released every 3 months or 4 times a year.
In the 3 months between, there will be about 90 cards released.

at our level, Master / Elite we get a 50% discount, so 90 cards for us is
90 x 30 minus 50% = 1,350 credits.

then we need to spend about 2000 credits or a net spend of 1650 credits
for a total of 1,350 plus 1,650 = 3,000 credits

If we used Crypto to buy the 3,000 credit pack During the EX event
we Get 3000 credits, plus 1500 bonus token towards the EX event.
for $249.99

and After playing all the Quests to Get the SEC and the EX card
we will have enough credit to buy the Next 3 Months of Cards, 1 card each day..
and Not have to hold off making a Purchase for 3 Months...

If we don't use Crypto, and Instead Re-load 1x 2500 credits during the event.
it would cost $199.99 we still get the same 1500 bonus Quest Tokens.

and maybe have to play less of the Quests..
I'd play just 50 x 10 credits per spin at the slots...

and then Still Have enough Credits to Get the 90 cards
and 2 extra SEC cards released 1 x a Month.

So that is the Run down for a Member with a Full Collection.

• Re-Load 2500 credits for $199.99 during the EX event. get 1500 Quest tokens
• Spend 500 credits
• At the Slots Get 500 Quest Tokens. Plus win back Credits as you spin.

or

• At the Thrill Spin to Get 500 Quest Tokens. Win Back Credits

or

• On the golden Tickets to get 500 Quest Tokens. Win Back Credits and Maybe Jokers.
• You will have 2000 credits or More left.
• Buy the next 3 months of cards 1350 credits
• play the SEC events 650 credits left to use on the SEC events.

( you might need an extra re-load if you run short on credits )


It Costs $199.99 or $249.99 every 3 Months if you Want to get every SEC and Every EX card, plus all the regular Cards.
That is a budget of $66.67 a Month or $83.33 per month
on a weekly basis that is:
$16.68 or $20.84 per week for your Budget.